Is green card marriage fraud common?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.
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We know a few questionable marriages. Im not sure if they are mail order or scam marriages.

One guy we know has a new wife who brought her son. She has money and it is very obvious she only married him for a green card. It isn’t clear if they are an actual couple or not.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Nobody knows how many people are getting away with this type of fraud so there's no way to prove it. It's similar to fraud related to disability or welfare. Nobody really knows, but looking at how easy/difficult it is to subvert the system is helpful. Also, knowing many people who have beat the system is what the FBI would call a clue.

Being educated is irrelevant because it doesn't mean that you actually have critical thinking skills.


Thank you for proving that with everything you write. Beautifully said, actually.

This is sort of like saying no one tracking disability or welfare fraud. Blatantly untrue, but MAGAts want to spread that lie to make it possible for Trump to do what he is doing. Of course it's being tracked and there are statistics on it. Benefits are taken away, people are being penalized for committing fraud.

The process of applying for a green card is strenuous and long. Human beings are conducting background searches, contacting your home country's embassy to do a search there, asking for a million records to prove that your marriage is legitimate. How many are being denied a green card based on those investigations? How many get provisional ones but not the permanent one? Those things are easily trackable. So just because you don't have a clue about how any of this works, does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


You sound like you are unhinged and really into politics, which means you lack objectivity. You have convinced yourself that you're knowlegable about a subject because you did a google search and that is

You are attempting to win an argument instead of learning and I suspect this is something you do often.
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Anonymous wrote:We know a few questionable marriages. Im not sure if they are mail order or scam marriages.

One guy we know has a new wife who brought her son. She has money and it is very obvious she only married him for a green card. It isn’t clear if they are an actual couple or not.


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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Nobody knows how many people are getting away with this type of fraud so there's no way to prove it. It's similar to fraud related to disability or welfare. Nobody really knows, but looking at how easy/difficult it is to subvert the system is helpful. Also, knowing many people who have beat the system is what the FBI would call a clue.

Being educated is irrelevant because it doesn't mean that you actually have critical thinking skills.


Thank you for proving that with everything you write. Beautifully said, actually.

This is sort of like saying no one tracking disability or welfare fraud. Blatantly untrue, but MAGAts want to spread that lie to make it possible for Trump to do what he is doing. Of course it's being tracked and there are statistics on it. Benefits are taken away, people are being penalized for committing fraud.

The process of applying for a green card is strenuous and long. Human beings are conducting background searches, contacting your home country's embassy to do a search there, asking for a million records to prove that your marriage is legitimate. How many are being denied a green card based on those investigations? How many get provisional ones but not the permanent one? Those things are easily trackable. So just because you don't have a clue about how any of this works, does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


You sound like you are unhinged and really into politics, which means you lack objectivity. You have convinced yourself that you're knowlegable about a subject because you did a google search and that is

You are attempting to win an argument instead of learning and I suspect this is something you do often.


Than you for that very insightful comment. You contributed a lot to this discussion.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.


I see you are deflecting now. You have nothing, troll.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.


I see you are deflecting now. You have nothing, troll.


So typical of you MAGAts. You make a claim you can’t support and then everyone else is a troll.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.


I see you are deflecting now. You have nothing, troll.


So typical of you MAGAts. You make a claim you can’t support and then everyone else is a troll.


Yawn, your trolling is boring. You're not particularly clever, but I hope you had fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was talking to a friend and he mentioned that he’s been propositioned several times for a sham marriage to perpetrate green card fraud (was brought up because I’m dating someone here on a visa and things are starting to get serious). He said it’s actually very common in many communities to do this where someone gets legally married and fakes their relationship history, and it’s often difficult for USCIS to prove.

It kind of blew my mind that people will risk imprisonment and go through the hassle of marrying someone you don’t love just to make $10-20k. Why doesn’t this get talked about more?


All the time

One other fraud is as soon as they get into US they have anchor babies.

It is completely out of control
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I have a gay male uncle who has done it for two different friends of his, from Canada of all places.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.


I see you are deflecting now. You have nothing, troll.


So typical of you MAGAts. You make a claim you can’t support and then everyone else is a troll.


Our educated justice warrior sure is agressive!!

And the stories of green card fraud keep pouring in LMAO
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.


I see you are deflecting now. You have nothing, troll.


So typical of you MAGAts. You make a claim you can’t support and then everyone else is a troll.


Our educated justice warrior sure is agressive!!

And the stories of green card fraud keep pouring in LMAO


Prove it you moron. You keep saying it but can’t prove it. You realize how dumb that makes you look right?
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my comment was deleted. This is very common in African immigrant communities in the U.S.


Here is another completely unsubstantiated claim.


It's well known if you've been a part of or around those communities. It's not like they a registry of these types of marriages. If you don't want to believe it, fine.


Fraud is provable. Therefore, it is trackable. So show me some evidence.


This is dumb. Not every crime is prosecuted and accounted for. Doesn't mean it is not happening. Do you want me to list the names of people I know who I know who have been in such marriages?

The only reason this guy got caught was because he is political and an opponent probably put a hit job out on him. Happens literally all. the. time.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9769aa3c7556efad4a15babdfbd206c5

Believe it or don't. I'm not doing any more homework for you.



You're the only one believing things you can't prove. But you think I'm dumb? Do you even know how crime statistics work?


Believing? I know, for a fact. I have seen it. Very frequently.

Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though.


THEN PROVE IT!!!!!! That's all I'm asking. Facts are provable.


Learn to use google. It's extremely common in African immigrant communities, even if the authorities don't always catch it. Your stance is akin to using the number of speeding tickets as an accurate gauge for how frequent people engage in speeding. Silly.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230939273.html

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/nigerian-marriage-fraud-leader-and-2-associates-convicted-houston

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/man-who-arranged-sham-marriages-between-nigerians-and-us-citizens-found-guilty






We use the measures that we have. So if you are claiming that it’s very common you should be able to prove that. You haven’t been able to. No one ever claimed that there are fraud cases. I myself said that this country is huge and the sheer size of the beautocracy would mean some people fall through the cracks. That doesn’t mean that fraud is wide spread or very common. A couple of individual cases that got prosecuted (which just provides my point actually) does not mean that fraud is wide spread.


Now you are just playing silly semantic games. What constitutes common? widespread? What are you looking for percentages here?

Realize, you are the outlier here. OP is about common and now you are introducing the concept of "widespread".

Tell us what crime you believe is widespread or common and what data or metric you are using to make that claim. Does any crime qualify? Please show supporting evidence.


You are making the claim that it is very common and wide spread, so shouldn’t you have to explain what that is? In the sane, educated people universe those making claims should have the burden of supporting them.


I see you are deflecting now. You have nothing, troll.


So typical of you MAGAts. You make a claim you can’t support and then everyone else is a troll.


Yawn, your trolling is boring. You're not particularly clever, but I hope you had fun.


Awww I’m truly hurt you think so. A MAGAt who doesn’t even know what facts are.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a gay male uncle who has done it for two different friends of his, from Canada of all places.


Damn! Two already? He is cranking them out.
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