How are TJ class 2025 Top 25 college admissions

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Anonymous wrote:The undeniable fact is class 2025 shows more Ivies+ and better-than-UVA admits at the FCPS base school, especially STEM, no matter it's Oakton/Chantilly/Westfield/McLean/Langley/Madison, just to name a few. Those are the kids supposed to get picked from old TJ admission policy, they still shine at the base high school.
And quite a few kids got Ivies+ offer at TJ this year aren't being chosen by new admission policy, they transferred 10th grade from base school.
The kids know who are their intelligent peers that are doing well at the base school even though didn't get picked by TJ.

99% of the Top half or 225 students would have made it to TJ even with the old system. Most of the Ivy+ pick from TJ would be from these 225 kids. Yes the remaining 1% (who did not apply/make it to TJ at 10th grade) are making it to Ivy+ from the base school.

I read this as positive things, that high achievement/ intelligence is spread out among other HS …

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Anonymous wrote:The undeniable fact is class 2025 shows more Ivies+ and better-than-UVA admits at the FCPS base school, especially STEM, no matter it's Oakton/Chantilly/Westfield/McLean/Langley/Madison, just to name a few. Those are the kids supposed to get picked from old TJ admission policy, they still shine at the base high school.
And quite a few kids got Ivies+ offer at TJ this year aren't being chosen by new admission policy, they transferred 10th grade from base school.
The kids know who are their intelligent peers that are doing well at the base school even though didn't get picked by TJ.

99% of the Top half or 225 students would have made it to TJ even with the old system. Most of the Ivy+ pick from TJ would be from these 225 kids. Yes the remaining 1% (who did not apply/make it to TJ at 10th grade) are making it to Ivy+ from the base school.

Top half will be around ~250 kids based on the current class of 2025 membership.

FCPS data shows 550 admissions for class 2025 plus transfers from later years.

The current senior class (2025) has 501 students (49 less than the allocated 550). You can check it at the membership in the FCPS school profile.

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Anonymous wrote:The undeniable fact is class 2025 shows more Ivies+ and better-than-UVA admits at the FCPS base school, especially STEM, no matter it's Oakton/Chantilly/Westfield/McLean/Langley/Madison, just to name a few. Those are the kids supposed to get picked from old TJ admission policy, they still shine at the base high school.
And quite a few kids got Ivies+ offer at TJ this year aren't being chosen by new admission policy, they transferred 10th grade from base school.
The kids know who are their intelligent peers that are doing well at the base school even though didn't get picked by TJ.

99% of the Top half or 225 students would have made it to TJ even with the old system. Most of the Ivy+ pick from TJ would be from these 225 kids. Yes the remaining 1% (who did not apply/make it to TJ at 10th grade) are making it to Ivy+ from the base school.

I read this as positive things, that high achievement/ intelligence is spread out among other HS …

Yes, at times challenging TJ at some of the standard STEM competitions.

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Do Ivy League colleges recognize TJ's rigor, and will they take that into account when making admissions decisions?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

There should be a rule about that. That is borderline abusive.

AP Calc BC vast majority around the country score a 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AP Scores are curved for the country.

No they are not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

There should be a rule about that. That is borderline abusive.

AP Calc BC vast majority around the country score a 5.

Just looked for 2024: https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions
Only 21% get a 5, so not vast majority. Vast majority (64%) get 3+

Exam/Score 5 4 3 2 1 +3
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AP Calculus AB 21.4% 27.8% 15.3% 22.7% 12.9% 64.4%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

There should be a rule about that. That is borderline abusive.

AP Calc BC vast majority around the country score a 5.

Just looked for 2024: https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions
Only 21% get a 5, so not vast majority. Vast majority (64%) get 3+

Exam/Score 5 4 3 2 1 +3
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AP Calculus AB 21.4% 27.8% 15.3% 22.7% 12.9% 64.4%

AP Calculus BC 47.7% 21.1% 12.1% 13.9% 5.2% 80.9%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

There should be a rule about that. That is borderline abusive.

AP Calc BC vast majority around the country score a 5.

Just looked for 2024: https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions
Only 21% get a 5, so not vast majority. Vast majority (64%) get 3+

Exam/Score 5 4 3 2 1 +3
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AP Calculus AB 21.4% 27.8% 15.3% 22.7% 12.9% 64.4%

AP Calculus BC 47.7% 21.1% 12.1% 13.9% 5.2% 80.9%

Yeah for BC, taken by most advanced students, close to 50% get a 5

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do Ivy League colleges recognize TJ's rigor, and will they take that into account when making admissions decisions?

Maybe, but you will be compared against the kids within the school, so you have to be in the top 10-20% if you do not have any hooks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

TBH, this is due to admission policy changes starting class 2025 onwards. I know all the parents of TJ students would like to think their children are picked because their academics are stronger than their cohort, but that's not the case starting from class 2025.
The kids were on higher math level that were not being picked for TJ, they stayed in base high school and run out of math classes to take on senior or even junior year. While kids on normal math level got pushed to TJ can't take up the challenge of TJ advanced courses, this is how twisted the admission policy changed into.

That's just fake news. The admission policy admits only the top students. Previously the bar was much lower when they were admitting only kids whose families bought the test answers.[/quote


The admission policy served its purpose of opening up the school to students from every middle school. This is a good thing and it is legal. But let's not try and pretend that the end result captures more of northern Virginia's top students. It just isn't true, but I don't care. Opening the school to gurantee seats for all middle schools is a good policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do Ivy League colleges recognize TJ's rigor, and will they take that into account when making admissions decisions?

The misconception about the TJ is most parents perceive it as a prestigious, not consider if it's a good fit for their kids.
The purpose of the TJ is for the kids are able to take the next level of challenge for STEM, not offering the same courses as the base school. If you just want AP CalBC 5 and A, you should stay at base school, TJ is for the kids would like to challenge the MultiVars, Discrete Math, their AP courses are in extra depth. Unfortunately the current admission policy does not serve this purpose anymore. On the record, the teachers feel frustrated too teaching the kids aren't up for the challenges the TJ courses are designed for.

And in the application, there's a school report, colleges do take in consideration that TJ courses are in extra level depth. The same way they will consider different HS offers different numbers of AP courses.

If you check on the kids got in top colleges in TJ, you'll find not only they have 5 and A of AP CalBC at 10th grade, they are taking AP Physics C at Junior year etc...The point is they're able to take the most rigorous courses their HS offers, that makes a difference on your college application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do Ivy League colleges recognize TJ's rigor, and will they take that into account when making admissions decisions?

The misconception about the TJ is most parents perceive it as a prestigious, not consider if it's a good fit for their kids.
The purpose of the TJ is for the kids are able to take the next level of challenge for STEM, not offering the same courses as the base school. If you just want AP CalBC 5 and A, you should stay at base school, TJ is for the kids would like to challenge the MultiVars, Discrete Math, their AP courses are in extra depth. Unfortunately the current admission policy does not serve this purpose anymore. On the record, the teachers feel frustrated too teaching the kids aren't up for the challenges the TJ courses are designed for.

And in the application, there's a school report, colleges do take in consideration that TJ courses are in extra level depth. The same way they will consider different HS offers different numbers of AP courses.

If you check on the kids got in top colleges in TJ, you'll find not only they have 5 and A of AP CalBC at 10th grade, they are taking AP Physics C at Junior year etc...The point is they're able to take the most rigorous courses their HS offers, that makes a difference on your college application.

If the kids are not able to take advantages of the good resource TJ provides, the AO would think they won't be able to use the good resources provided at their colleges either, hence not a good fit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The undeniable fact is class 2025 shows more Ivies+ and better-than-UVA admits at the FCPS base school, especially STEM, no matter it's Oakton/Chantilly/Westfield/McLean/Langley/Madison, just to name a few. Those are the kids supposed to get picked from old TJ admission policy, they still shine at the base high school.
And quite a few kids got Ivies+ offer at TJ this year aren't being chosen by new admission policy, they transferred 10th grade from base school.
The kids know who are their intelligent peers that are doing well at the base school even though didn't get picked by TJ.

99% of the Top half or 225 students would have made it to TJ even with the old system. Most of the Ivy+ pick from TJ would be from these 225 kids. Yes the remaining 1% (who did not apply/make it to TJ at 10th grade) are making it to Ivy+ from the base school.

The point of TJ isn't to get into a better college. For most TJ students it hurts your GPA and your college prospects. For a small minority, it creates the critical mass of smart kids you need to create a competitive academic community and you improve your chances at the most selective schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

There should be a rule about that. That is borderline abusive.

AP Calc BC vast majority around the country score a 5.

Just looked for 2024: https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions
Only 21% get a 5, so not vast majority. Vast majority (64%) get 3+

Exam/Score 5 4 3 2 1 +3
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AP Calculus AB 21.4% 27.8% 15.3% 22.7% 12.9% 64.4%

AP Calculus BC 47.7% 21.1% 12.1% 13.9% 5.2% 80.9%

Yeah for BC, taken by most advanced students, close to 50% get a 5

Yes. And? It's ~50% getting an A obscene?