How are TJ class 2025 Top 25 college admissions

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Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

TBH, this is due to admission policy changes starting class 2025 onwards. I know all the parents of TJ students would like to think their children are picked because their academics are stronger than their cohort, but that's not the case starting from class 2025.
The kids were on higher math level that were not being picked for TJ, they stayed in base high school and run out of math classes to take on senior or even junior year. While kids on normal math level got pushed to TJ can't take up the challenge of TJ advanced courses, this is how twisted the admission policy changed into.

That's just fake news. The admission policy admits only the top students. Previously the bar was much lower when they were admitting only kids whose families bought the test answers.

The admission policy served its purpose of opening up the school to students from every middle school. This is a good thing and it is legal. But let's not try and pretend that the end result captures more of northern Virginia's top students. It just isn't true, but I don't care. Opening the school to gurantee seats for all middle schools is a good policy.

Ok. But you can do that while reinstating standardized testing like all the selective schools are doing. We are not doing a good job of picking the right kid at these schools

Wasn't the test optional trend used to support the elimination of the TJ test? Doesn't it stand to reason that this move back to testing argue for returning to the test?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

The BC Calc exam is very easy. An 80% gets you a 5.

A C+ and a 5 on the AP exam is entirely possible.

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Anonymous wrote:The coming enrollment cliff in college admissions will probably change a lot of college acceptance stats. Entering freshmen at TJ or anywhere else are going to be part of those new numbers so you might be missing some data asking about graduating seniors rn.

Yes, TJ is poised to do well because of this and the enhanced selection process that eliminated the rampant cheating.

Oh give it a break. Nobody thinks the new admissions process is more selective than the old one. Nobody thinks that kids cheated their way into TJ under the old system.

FCPS decided to create a system that would improve diversity at a time when taking affirmative actions to improve diversity was still legal. That's a political decision they could make at the time. They couldn't do this today.

The average PSAT score dropped 140 points and we expect the average SAT scores to drop by a similar amount. That's not the end of the world but it's student body is definitely less academically qualified.

Most people know it is since prior to the reform there was rampant chanting.

There is rampant cheating at the school now.

Langley High school has more cheating than TJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is currently Sophomore at TJ.

Taking pre-calc.

Half the class is struggling. Latest test, mid-term - class average was 62 - thats a F.

You can imagine what this does to college applications.

Unless ur kid is out of this world smart and good at math - TJ is not good for college applications.

Base school has many of the same courses up to AP Calc BC and no reason to stress at TJ

The fukken games these teachers play with grades is criminal. A kid getting a B will get a 5 on the AP exam in a lot of classes

Yep - Calc BC grade of C+ and 5 on the AP exam.

There should be a rule about that. That is borderline abusive.

AP Calc BC vast majority around the country score a 5.

Just looked for 2024: https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions
Only 21% get a 5, so not vast majority. Vast majority (64%) get 3+

Exam/Score 5 4 3 2 1 +3
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AP Calculus AB 21.4% 27.8% 15.3% 22.7% 12.9% 64.4%

AP Calculus BC 47.7% 21.1% 12.1% 13.9% 5.2% 80.9%

Yeah for BC, taken by most advanced students, close to 50% get a 5

Yes. And? It's ~50% getting an A obscene?

Are you new to the AP testing system? Getting a 5 is not an accomplishment. The teachers have to grade harder than the AP exam to ensure that the kids have actually learned the material.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coming enrollment cliff in college admissions will probably change a lot of college acceptance stats. Entering freshmen at TJ or anywhere else are going to be part of those new numbers so you might be missing some data asking about graduating seniors rn.

Yes, TJ is poised to do well because of this and the enhanced selection process that eliminated the rampant cheating.

Oh give it a break. Nobody thinks the new admissions process is more selective than the old one. Nobody thinks that kids cheated their way into TJ under the old system.

FCPS decided to create a system that would improve diversity at a time when taking affirmative actions to improve diversity was still legal. That's a political decision they could make at the time. They couldn't do this today.

The average PSAT score dropped 140 points and we expect the average SAT scores to drop by a similar amount. That's not the end of the world but it's student body is definitely less academically qualified.

Most people know it is since prior to the reform there was rampant chanting.

There is rampant cheating at the school now.

Langley High school has more cheating than TJ

+100

[Anonymous]

It's interesting to see people are pitted for fighting to get in TJ like in hunger game. The better questions to ask are
FCPS is one of the richest county in US, why can they provide more advanced STEM courses to more base high schools?
Instead, FCPS played political games, pick the kids who couldn't take up the challenge of what advanced STEM TJ courses are designed for in name of equity. This does more harm to those kids than help them, only to satisfy the some people's political agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see people are pitted for fighting to get in TJ like in hunger game. The better questions to ask are
FCPS is one of the richest county in US, why can they provide more advanced STEM courses to more base high schools?
Instead, FCPS played political games, pick the kids who couldn't take up the challenge of what advanced STEM TJ courses are designed for in name of equity. This does more harm to those kids than help them, only to satisfy the some people's political agenda.

There are plenty of advanced post-BC Calc classes at many FCPS high schools. That's not an issue or a problem to be solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see people are pitted for fighting to get in TJ like in hunger game. The better questions to ask are
FCPS is one of the richest county in US, why can they provide more advanced STEM courses to more base high schools?
Instead, FCPS played political games, pick the kids who couldn't take up the challenge of what advanced STEM TJ courses are designed for in name of equity. This does more harm to those kids than help them, only to satisfy the some people's political agenda.

There are plenty of advanced post-BC Calc classes at many FCPS high schools. That's not an issue or a problem to be solved.

It's not about post-BC Calc, it's about post-MultiVar, post-Linear Algebra. There's no math courses to take at the base high school if you are already on Algebra2 or pre-cal before getting into high school. For the record of class 2025, no kids on high-level of math were being picked for TJ from our middle school, some kids took the same level math twice just to get by, some kids don't have a math to take at senior year. Some kids transferred to TJ at the 10th grade, contributed to ivies+ number. The kids stayed at the base HS also got into ivies+, but they were ripped off the opportunities for advanced STEM courses. While for normal math level kids got in TJ and been complaining about the depth of the STEM courses and teachers' being strict. The TJ's STEM teachers are way better than base HS, yet the disqualifying kids' don't know how to take advantages of their learning experience at TJ, and their parents don't appreciate the teachers' efforts either.

[Anonymous]

i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

That’s about what it usually is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

UVA accepted only 11% of in-state applicants, 17% from TJHSST is great!. 85 kids if everyone applied, not bad!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

UVA accepted only 11% of in-state applicants, 17% from TJHSST is great!. 85 kids if everyone applied, not bad!

If 17% committed, that is a different story

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

UVA accepted only 11% of in-state applicants, 17% from TJHSST is great!. 85 kids if everyone applied, not bad!

If 17% committed, that is a different story

UVA accepted almost 25% of in state applicants (including ED, EA, and RD):

Overall Admission Statistics
Total applications: 64,463 (58,995 last year)
Total VA applications: 17,608 (16,455)
Total OOS applications: 46,855 (42,540)

Overall VA acceptance rate: 23% (25.5%)
Overall OOS acceptance rate: 12.5% (13%)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

UVA accepted only 11% of in-state applicants, 17% from TJHSST is great!. 85 kids if everyone applied, not bad!

If 17% committed, that is a different story

UVA accepted almost 25% of in state applicants (including ED, EA, and RD):

Overall Admission Statistics
Total applications: 64,463 (58,995 last year)
Total VA applications: 17,608 (16,455)
Total OOS applications: 46,855 (42,540)

Overall VA acceptance rate: 23% (25.5%)
Overall OOS acceptance rate: 12.5% (13%)

That's great. I mean I love UVA. It's an amazing school for Liberal Arts but for a STEM school like TJ I just don't think it offers much. Better off applying out of state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i learned from counselor conference today that TJ acceptance for UVA is 17% only for class 2025. That is shockingly low.

UVA accepted only 11% of in-state applicants, 17% from TJHSST is great!. 85 kids if everyone applied, not bad!

If 17% committed, that is a different story

UVA accepted almost 25% of in state applicants (including ED, EA, and RD):

Overall Admission Statistics
Total applications: 64,463 (58,995 last year)
Total VA applications: 17,608 (16,455)
Total OOS applications: 46,855 (42,540)

Overall VA acceptance rate: 23% (25.5%)
Overall OOS acceptance rate: 12.5% (13%)

Is it bcos majority of the TJHSST students offered admission to UVA opt to go to other colleges? On paper at least UVA does not do yield protection but could it be the reason?