Laying Off NOAA staff

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Florida and just emailed my two Republican Senators to ask them to please save NWS and NOAA. I cannot even imagine how devastating this year's hurricane season will be without these two agencies.

I don't expect either of them to respond - or even to take me seriously. But my gd I hope they do.

I am curious, do you really believe that you will get no information before a major hurricane is about to strike? Like nothing at all, this is what's going to happen? You are sitting there in your shiny condo or a house completely oblivious until the high winds start all of a sudden and giant waves descend on your beaches, yeah.. Try to use your brain and stop catastrophizing.

Do you have any idea - any idea at all - how early we start getting hurricane warnings, and how often they are updated as the storms grow and move? And any idea how important this information is when it comes not just to individuals keeping themselves safe - making the right decisions, with the best info we have - but also how municipalities know where to deploy resources and when?

It kills me that people like you are so confident in your ignorance.

Agreed. When large storms hit, evacuations take days, at minimum. Our road infrastructure doesn't support anything faster. Anyone who drives to eastern shore beaches should know that. Early warnings save MANY lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Florida and just emailed my two Republican Senators to ask them to please save NWS and NOAA. I cannot even imagine how devastating this year's hurricane season will be without these two agencies.

I don't expect either of them to respond - or even to take me seriously. But my gd I hope they do.

I am curious, do you really believe that you will get no information before a major hurricane is about to strike? Like nothing at all, this is what's going to happen? You are sitting there in your shiny condo or a house completely oblivious until the high winds start all of a sudden and giant waves descend on your beaches, yeah.. Try to use your brain and stop catastrophizing.

Do you have any idea - any idea at all - how early we start getting hurricane warnings, and how often they are updated as the storms grow and move? And any idea how important this information is when it comes not just to individuals keeping themselves safe - making the right decisions, with the best info we have - but also how municipalities know where to deploy resources and when?

It kills me that people like you are so confident in your ignorance.

Agreed. When large storms hit, evacuations take days, at minimum. Our road infrastructure doesn't support anything faster. Anyone who drives to eastern shore beaches should know that. Early warnings save MANY lives.

Early warnings. Constant updates. Better modeling. These are all critical.

It is all feeling very hopeless here right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest scandal is finding out that the federal government employs 12,000(!) people in just the weather monitoring agency!! That's 4 NOAA employees for every single one of the ~3000 counties in the United States!

12,000 do NOT work on just weather. NOAA has multiple line offices…the Weather Service is just one. 4000 out of 12,000 NOAA employees work in NOAA’s National Marine Fisheries Service.

[Anonymous]

Every girl from my sorority is a meteorologist.

[Anonymous]

The people who will be hit the hardest will be the red states so I just don't care anymore. I won't be donating to any red states unless it's for animal rescue.

[Anonymous]

Republicans will soon learn that meteorologists don’t grow on trees! And that it’s almost impossible to sidestep a hurricane without the help of government bureaucrats. Serves the right. They will driwn without us, and I’ll be glad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest scandal is finding out that the federal government employs 12,000(!) people in just the weather monitoring agency!! That's 4 NOAA employees for every single one of the ~3000 counties in the United States!

NOAA is short for National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. What makes you believe all they do is weather?

[Anonymous]

As a climate change enthusiast, NOAA is my favorite government agency by far. Layoffs there are tragic.

[Anonymous]

You do know that NOAA tracks hurricanes,. Tornados, provides weather to the airlines, and monitors for tidal waves right?

No? Not surprising, Russian trolls and traitor tots and MAGAs don't really know what the federal government does. MAGAs are about to find out.

[Anonymous]

USGS too. Because why would anyone need to know about volcanic or earthquake activity? I can pay people for that, right?

[Anonymous]

NOAA satellites are part of the global Search and Rescue network, which detects and locates distress signals. Last year they saved 350 lives, including water rescues, downed aircrafts, and lost hikers.

Project 2025 calls for privatizing services and placing them under the control of states and territories, which is a silly idea. Extreme weather events don’t respect state boundaries, and they’re influenced by global and regional conditions. If you want the most scientifically accurate information gathered in the most efficient way, data collection needs to be done at the national level.

Privatizing services doesn’t work unless there are accountability and performance metrics and guarantees of equitable access (Puerto Rico privatized its energy utility, and the result has been degraded services and unreliability). It’s easy to imagine poorer red states having to pay more to access information about tornado, heat and wildfire risks. Data that isn’t privatized will be politicized or covered up in order to line the pockets of fossil fuel and other polluting industries, which is the real goal here.

Whatever justification is being given for dismantling NOAA, it’s a smokescreen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you afraid that our military will be at a disadvantage if they use private sector weather data? This is the attitude that leads the military to "procure" $900 toilet seats vs. the $20 ones available at the store.

Either way, the post you're responding to isn't about the military. It's about the claim that there will be far more "devastation" in Florida this year if there are NOAA layoffs. Do you agree with the lady that there will be? Or do you agree with me that there won't be?

Yes I am. NOAA produces a daily world weather report which is included in every briefing I have ever seen in the military. I guess you want those guys to all download accuweather instead? Oh wait, they aren’t allowed to connect to the internet since it would give away their location. The military doesn’t have the option of using a private sector service — you are honestly saying you want troops using data generated with who knows what accuracy? Next why don’t we move everyone to publicly hosted gmail accounts because well it works for me at home so it should work for you in the field.
You guys are seriously talking out of your ass. You are cutting things that you have no idea what they do. You really are putting peoples lives in danger.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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This building in College Park was built in 2012 as a state-of-the-art center for weather forecasting and climate prediction. So many industries rely on accurate weather forecasting, this is one of the dumbest things they've done yet.
https://www.weather.gov/media/wrn/1pgr_NCWCP.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you afraid that our military will be at a disadvantage if they use private sector weather data? This is the attitude that leads the military to "procure" $900 toilet seats vs. the $20 ones available at the store.

Either way, the post you're responding to isn't about the military. It's about the claim that there will be far more "devastation" in Florida this year if there are NOAA layoffs. Do you agree with the lady that there will be? Or do you agree with me that there won't be?

Yes I am. NOAA produces a daily world weather report which is included in every briefing I have ever seen in the military. I guess you want those guys to all download accuweather instead? Oh wait, they aren’t allowed to connect to the internet since it would give away their location. The military doesn’t have the option of using a private sector service — you are honestly saying you want troops using data generated with who knows what accuracy? Next why don’t we move everyone to publicly hosted gmail accounts because well it works for me at home so it should work for you in the field.
You guys are seriously talking out of your ass. You are cutting things that you have no idea what they do. You really are putting peoples lives in danger.

I posted earlier about the navy and the need for accurate climate data. These cuts are astonishing. Dumb dumb.