Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why can’t Ukraine hold an election? Zelensky has been in office 6 years.

Putin has been in office since 2004, during George Bush term. What's your point?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can’t Ukraine hold an election? Zelensky has been in office 6 years.

Putin has been in office since 2004, during George Bush term. What's your point?


So Zelensky is going to be a Putin style dictator for life? That’s not democracy whatsoever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because the US did the same with Gaza. Only the US and Israel negotiated. Hamas wasn’t in the room.


We don't negotiate with terrorist (supposedly). If there is non-Hamas leadership within the Palestinian community in that region, they should absolutely be at the negotiating table and if they weren't, shame on the US.
Anonymous
It’s so odd Zelensky recently was an actor.

At age 17, he joined his local team competing in the KVN comedy competition.[47] He was soon invited to join the united Ukrainian team "Zaporizhzhia-Kryvyi Rih-Transit," which performed in the KVN's Major League and eventually won in 1997.[29][48][49] That same year, he created and headed the Kvartal 95 team, which later transformed into the comedy outfit Kvartal 95. From 1998 to 2003, Kvartal 95 performed in the Major League and the highest open Ukrainian league of KVN, and the team members spent a lot of time in Moscow and constantly toured around post-Soviet countries.[29][48] In 2003, Kvartal 95 started producing TV shows for the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, and in 2005, the team moved to fellow Ukrainian TV channel Inter.[29]
In 2008, he starred in the feature film Love in the Big City, and its sequel, Love in the Big City 2.[29] Zelenskyy continued his movie career with the film Office Romance. Our Time in 2011 and with Rzhevsky Versus Napoleon in 2012.[29] Love in the Big City 3 was released in January 2014.[29] Zelenskyy also played the leading role in the 2012 film 8 First Dates and in sequels that were produced in 2015 and 2016.[29] He recorded the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian dubbing of Paddington (2014) and Paddington 2 (2017).[50]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s so odd Zelensky recently was an actor.

At age 17, he joined his local team competing in the KVN comedy competition.[47] He was soon invited to join the united Ukrainian team "Zaporizhzhia-Kryvyi Rih-Transit," which performed in the KVN's Major League and eventually won in 1997.[29][48][49] That same year, he created and headed the Kvartal 95 team, which later transformed into the comedy outfit Kvartal 95. From 1998 to 2003, Kvartal 95 performed in the Major League and the highest open Ukrainian league of KVN, and the team members spent a lot of time in Moscow and constantly toured around post-Soviet countries.[29][48] In 2003, Kvartal 95 started producing TV shows for the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, and in 2005, the team moved to fellow Ukrainian TV channel Inter.[29]
In 2008, he starred in the feature film Love in the Big City, and its sequel, Love in the Big City 2.[29] Zelenskyy continued his movie career with the film Office Romance. Our Time in 2011 and with Rzhevsky Versus Napoleon in 2012.[29] Love in the Big City 3 was released in January 2014.[29] Zelenskyy also played the leading role in the 2012 film 8 First Dates and in sequels that were produced in 2015 and 2016.[29] He recorded the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian dubbing of Paddington (2014) and Paddington 2 (2017).[50]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy


Odd Trump plays a business man?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.


Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.


Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Trump has surrender to the Russians. Why is he such a weak negotiator?


Citation? What are you referring to?

What do you think about Obama saying that Ukraine is not a core interest for the US
?

Is this before or after all those precious assets were discovered beneath the Ukrainian soil?


The Obama Doctrine and Ukraine
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-obama-doctrine-and-ukraine/


As regards the two-year-old conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the president said Ukraine is a core interest for Moscow, in a way that it is not for the United States. He noted that, since Ukraine does not belong to NATO, it is vulnerable to Russian military domination, and that “we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

April 2016


Guess that is the same as surrendering to Putin?

Trump’s doctrine

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.
Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html


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What does the 6 year old article we cannot read have to do with this subject?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s so odd Zelensky recently was an actor.

At age 17, he joined his local team competing in the KVN comedy competition.[47] He was soon invited to join the united Ukrainian team "Zaporizhzhia-Kryvyi Rih-Transit," which performed in the KVN's Major League and eventually won in 1997.[29][48][49] That same year, he created and headed the Kvartal 95 team, which later transformed into the comedy outfit Kvartal 95. From 1998 to 2003, Kvartal 95 performed in the Major League and the highest open Ukrainian league of KVN, and the team members spent a lot of time in Moscow and constantly toured around post-Soviet countries.[29][48] In 2003, Kvartal 95 started producing TV shows for the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, and in 2005, the team moved to fellow Ukrainian TV channel Inter.[29]
In 2008, he starred in the feature film Love in the Big City, and its sequel, Love in the Big City 2.[29] Zelenskyy continued his movie career with the film Office Romance. Our Time in 2011 and with Rzhevsky Versus Napoleon in 2012.[29] Love in the Big City 3 was released in January 2014.[29] Zelenskyy also played the leading role in the 2012 film 8 First Dates and in sequels that were produced in 2015 and 2016.[29] He recorded the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian dubbing of Paddington (2014) and Paddington 2 (2017).[50]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy


This isn't news. the voters in Ukraine knew that when he ran. It was sort of the way voters in the US knew Reagan was an actor as well.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Trump has surrender to the Russians. Why is he such a weak negotiator?


Citation? What are you referring to?

What do you think about Obama saying that Ukraine is not a core interest for the US
?

Is this before or after all those precious assets were discovered beneath the Ukrainian soil?


The Obama Doctrine and Ukraine
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-obama-doctrine-and-ukraine/


As regards the two-year-old conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the president said Ukraine is a core interest for Moscow, in a way that it is not for the United States. He noted that, since Ukraine does not belong to NATO, it is vulnerable to Russian military domination, and that “we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

April 2016


Guess that is the same as surrendering to Putin?

Trump’s doctrine

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.
Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html


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What does the 6 year old article we cannot read have to do with this subject?


If you ponied up for subscriptions to news organizations, you would be able to read their articles.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s so odd Zelensky recently was an actor.

At age 17, he joined his local team competing in the KVN comedy competition.[47] He was soon invited to join the united Ukrainian team "Zaporizhzhia-Kryvyi Rih-Transit," which performed in the KVN's Major League and eventually won in 1997.[29][48][49] That same year, he created and headed the Kvartal 95 team, which later transformed into the comedy outfit Kvartal 95. From 1998 to 2003, Kvartal 95 performed in the Major League and the highest open Ukrainian league of KVN, and the team members spent a lot of time in Moscow and constantly toured around post-Soviet countries.[29][48] In 2003, Kvartal 95 started producing TV shows for the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, and in 2005, the team moved to fellow Ukrainian TV channel Inter.[29]
In 2008, he starred in the feature film Love in the Big City, and its sequel, Love in the Big City 2.[29] Zelenskyy continued his movie career with the film Office Romance. Our Time in 2011 and with Rzhevsky Versus Napoleon in 2012.[29] Love in the Big City 3 was released in January 2014.[29] Zelenskyy also played the leading role in the 2012 film 8 First Dates and in sequels that were produced in 2015 and 2016.[29] He recorded the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian dubbing of Paddington (2014) and Paddington 2 (2017).[50]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy


This isn't news. the voters in Ukraine knew that when he ran. It was sort of the way voters in the US knew Reagan was an actor as well.


Zelensky was an actor just 2 years before he became president. Reagan was gov of CA and many years removed from acting before he became president.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Trump has surrender to the Russians. Why is he such a weak negotiator?


Citation? What are you referring to?

What do you think about Obama saying that Ukraine is not a core interest for the US
?

Is this before or after all those precious assets were discovered beneath the Ukrainian soil?


The Obama Doctrine and Ukraine
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-obama-doctrine-and-ukraine/


As regards the two-year-old conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the president said Ukraine is a core interest for Moscow, in a way that it is not for the United States. He noted that, since Ukraine does not belong to NATO, it is vulnerable to Russian military domination, and that “we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

April 2016


Guess that is the same as surrendering to Putin?

Trump’s doctrine

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.
Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html


1. A subscription is required to read your linked article.

2. Your linked article is from 2019. It is 2025. The article is 6 years old.

What does the 6 year old article we cannot read have to do with this subject?


If you ponied up for subscriptions to news organizations, you would be able to read their articles.


I am not subscribing to Mr Amazon’s rag to read a 6 year old article. lmao.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s so odd Zelensky recently was an actor.

At age 17, he joined his local team competing in the KVN comedy competition.[47] He was soon invited to join the united Ukrainian team "Zaporizhzhia-Kryvyi Rih-Transit," which performed in the KVN's Major League and eventually won in 1997.[29][48][49] That same year, he created and headed the Kvartal 95 team, which later transformed into the comedy outfit Kvartal 95. From 1998 to 2003, Kvartal 95 performed in the Major League and the highest open Ukrainian league of KVN, and the team members spent a lot of time in Moscow and constantly toured around post-Soviet countries.[29][48] In 2003, Kvartal 95 started producing TV shows for the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, and in 2005, the team moved to fellow Ukrainian TV channel Inter.[29]
In 2008, he starred in the feature film Love in the Big City, and its sequel, Love in the Big City 2.[29] Zelenskyy continued his movie career with the film Office Romance. Our Time in 2011 and with Rzhevsky Versus Napoleon in 2012.[29] Love in the Big City 3 was released in January 2014.[29] Zelenskyy also played the leading role in the 2012 film 8 First Dates and in sequels that were produced in 2015 and 2016.[29] He recorded the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian dubbing of Paddington (2014) and Paddington 2 (2017).[50]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy


This isn't news. the voters in Ukraine knew that when he ran. It was sort of the way voters in the US knew Reagan was an actor as well.

Now most Ukrainians hate Zelensky. They found out the hard way he’s a complete fraud (actor).
Funny how Zelensky won’t allow scheduled elections. He just LOVES our endless tax dollars in his coffers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.


Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.


Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.


Russia was the aggressor. Ukraine owes them nothing.

And if Ukraine is excluded from negotiations, they are not bound or beholden to any so-called "agreement" made. If the "agreement" says that Russia is to withdraw, great. But this nonsense about things like making restitution to Russia is absolute garbage and if I were Zelenskyy I'd be saying "go collect from Trump." If anything, Russia needs to be paying Ukraine reparations. Russia's invasion was unprovoked, illegal and unwarranted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s so odd Zelensky recently was an actor.

At age 17, he joined his local team competing in the KVN comedy competition.[47] He was soon invited to join the united Ukrainian team "Zaporizhzhia-Kryvyi Rih-Transit," which performed in the KVN's Major League and eventually won in 1997.[29][48][49] That same year, he created and headed the Kvartal 95 team, which later transformed into the comedy outfit Kvartal 95. From 1998 to 2003, Kvartal 95 performed in the Major League and the highest open Ukrainian league of KVN, and the team members spent a lot of time in Moscow and constantly toured around post-Soviet countries.[29][48] In 2003, Kvartal 95 started producing TV shows for the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, and in 2005, the team moved to fellow Ukrainian TV channel Inter.[29]
In 2008, he starred in the feature film Love in the Big City, and its sequel, Love in the Big City 2.[29] Zelenskyy continued his movie career with the film Office Romance. Our Time in 2011 and with Rzhevsky Versus Napoleon in 2012.[29] Love in the Big City 3 was released in January 2014.[29] Zelenskyy also played the leading role in the 2012 film 8 First Dates and in sequels that were produced in 2015 and 2016.[29] He recorded the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian dubbing of Paddington (2014) and Paddington 2 (2017).[50]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy


This isn't news. the voters in Ukraine knew that when he ran. It was sort of the way voters in the US knew Reagan was an actor as well.

Now most Ukrainians hate Zelensky. They found out the hard way he’s a complete fraud (actor).
Funny how Zelensky won’t allow scheduled elections. He just LOVES our endless tax dollars in his coffers.


Democrats are the defenders of free elections, democracy, etc, and constantly fret that Trump will refuse to leave office and become a dictator.

But Zelensky is applauded wildly by democrats as he becomes a dictator and refuses to hold democratic elections. Talk about hypocrisy!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.


Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.


Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.


Russia was the aggressor. Ukraine owes them nothing.

And if Ukraine is excluded from negotiations, they are not bound or beholden to any so-called "agreement" made. If the "agreement" says that Russia is to withdraw, great. But this nonsense about things like making restitution to Russia is absolute garbage and if I were Zelenskyy I'd be saying "go collect from Trump." If anything, Russia needs to be paying Ukraine reparations. Russia's invasion was unprovoked, illegal and unwarranted.


Ukraine can fight Russia without American taxpayer dollars and American taxpayer funded military arms. Let’s see how long they last.
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