Blended learning for long term medically impacted students

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Some MVA kids have families who have medical needs. This program does not treat those kids as part of their families--if the child themselves does not have "long term medical impacts," too bad. Remarkably short-sighted. But: it's MCPS.

Look, I live with someone undergoing chemo right now and a cold could kill him. I get it. But keeping my kids home from school for the length of chemo treatment is not a reasonable solution and has never been suggested by a single medical professional.

What is the "it" that you think you get, if it isn't the fact that you are not the same as everyone?

Sorry, it's just hard to imagine someone selfish enough to keep their kids isolated because they're not willing to take care of themselves.

Why do you assume the kids are isolated?

If they're not, why can't they go to school? Besides being inconvenient for your family schedule, that is.

Why do you think? You don’t realize how fortunate you are. Not all of us are and have the same privilege as you.

Right, some are very much more privileged, like the people that can afford to stay home with their kids all day without needing to go to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

First of all, most of the items on your list would and will qualify for blended learning.

Second of all, a wheelchair user would already have the ability to be assigned to a school with accessible facilities, and deserve to be educated alongside their peers.

Third of all, "wheelchair bound" is not the preferred terminology, which you would know if you saw kids who use mobility aids as anything but a talking point.

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Anonymous wrote:I get the sense that many posters here think most of the MVA type students are in this because of imagined issues?

Well, I think that a lot of the issues that folks shared publicly and on DCUM were less than compelling. They were things like "we like to travel on non-peak seasons" and "I'm worried about the focus on fashion in public middle school."

Yes, there were folks who had kids awaiting transplants and with legitimate needs, and those folks will be able to enter the program being rolled out. But, yeah, the testimony of some of the families did not suggest a genuine medical need, and certainly not a medical need on the part of the child themselves.

And, its people are not public about why. People are not traveling. Yes, there was some genuine medical need but if it is family preference why do you care. You spend online all day. Why is that ok for you?

"Family preference" is not a good enough reason for a program that costs $5m to run, without a compelling reason for the accommodation. Yes, it would be great for every kid to have a class of only 10 pupils, but that's not something we let folks opt into without an IEP, and sometimes not even then.

It seems exactly the kind of thing MCPS can't afford to do, but hey I guess they can just raise taxes again.

[Anonymous]

The MVA fanatics didn't do themselves any favors putting hysterical children on the podium crying about "all of the shootings and overdoses" taking place in schools.

Yes, there are issues in some schools but these kids were shaking with fear about issues that are rare. I wish those kids were getting therapy for anxiety instead of being kept at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get the sense that many posters here think most of the MVA type students are in this because of imagined issues?

Well, I think that a lot of the issues that folks shared publicly and on DCUM were less than compelling. They were things like "we like to travel on non-peak seasons" and "I'm worried about the focus on fashion in public middle school."

Yes, there were folks who had kids awaiting transplants and with legitimate needs, and those folks will be able to enter the program being rolled out. But, yeah, the testimony of some of the families did not suggest a genuine medical need, and certainly not a medical need on the part of the child themselves.

And, its people are not public about why. People are not traveling. Yes, there was some genuine medical need but if it is family preference why do you care. You spend online all day. Why is that ok for you?

"Family preference" is not a good enough reason for a program that costs $5m to run, without a compelling reason for the accommodation. Yes, it would be great for every kid to have a class of only 10 pupils, but that's not something we let folks opt into without an IEP, and sometimes not even then.

It seems exactly the kind of thing MCPS can't afford to do, but hey I guess they can just raise taxes again.

Mcps has plenty of money. They have a mismanagement issue. Since parents should have choice to save money we should go to all virtual.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA fanatics didn't do themselves any favors putting hysterical children on the podium crying about "all of the shootings and overdoses" taking place in schools.

Yes, there are issues in some schools but these kids were shaking with fear about issues that are rare. I wish those kids were getting therapy for anxiety instead of being kept at home.

Except there are overdoses, shootings, and fights every day.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

First of all, most of the items on your list would and will qualify for blended learning.

Second of all, a wheelchair user would already have the ability to be assigned to a school with accessible facilities, and deserve to be educated alongside their peers.

Third of all, "wheelchair bound" is not the preferred terminology, which you would know if you saw kids who use mobility aids as anything but a talking point.

The issue is the blended program is not equal to the MVA so these kids will not get adequate education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Some MVA kids have families who have medical needs. This program does not treat those kids as part of their families--if the child themselves does not have "long term medical impacts," too bad. Remarkably short-sighted. But: it's MCPS.

Look, I live with someone undergoing chemo right now and a cold could kill him. I get it. But keeping my kids home from school for the length of chemo treatment is not a reasonable solution and has never been suggested by a single medical professional.

What is the "it" that you think you get, if it isn't the fact that you are not the same as everyone?

Sorry, it's just hard to imagine someone selfish enough to keep their kids isolated because they're not willing to take care of themselves.

Why do you assume the kids are isolated?

If they're not, why can't they go to school? Besides being inconvenient for your family schedule, that is.

Why do you think? You don’t realize how fortunate you are. Not all of us are and have the same privilege as you.

Right, some are very much more privileged, like the people that can afford to stay home with their kids all day without needing to go to work.

Clearly you don’t have health issues or know anyone that does where work is not possible. And, yes lots of families with a stay home parent as they prioritize family or kids needs. It’s all about life choices. Working is a privilege if you have severe health issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

First of all, most of the items on your list would and will qualify for blended learning.

Second of all, a wheelchair user would already have the ability to be assigned to a school with accessible facilities, and deserve to be educated alongside their peers.

Third of all, "wheelchair bound" is not the preferred terminology, which you would know if you saw kids who use mobility aids as anything but a talking point.

The issue is the blended program is not equal to the MVA so these kids will not get adequate education

Then send them to school. I think almost everyone agrees that's the preferable solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get the sense that many posters here think most of the MVA type students are in this because of imagined issues?

Well, I think that a lot of the issues that folks shared publicly and on DCUM were less than compelling. They were things like "we like to travel on non-peak seasons" and "I'm worried about the focus on fashion in public middle school."

Yes, there were folks who had kids awaiting transplants and with legitimate needs, and those folks will be able to enter the program being rolled out. But, yeah, the testimony of some of the families did not suggest a genuine medical need, and certainly not a medical need on the part of the child themselves.

And, its people are not public about why. People are not traveling. Yes, there was some genuine medical need but if it is family preference why do you care. You spend online all day. Why is that ok for you?

God the former MVA parents are tedious.

Great parents advocating for their kids. Why do you care so much? The cost is minimal. You get choice, so why shouldn’t others? If cost is a concern lots of things can be reduced in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

First of all, most of the items on your list would and will qualify for blended learning.

Second of all, a wheelchair user would already have the ability to be assigned to a school with accessible facilities, and deserve to be educated alongside their peers.

Third of all, "wheelchair bound" is not the preferred terminology, which you would know if you saw kids who use mobility aids as anything but a talking point.

The issue is the blended program is not equal to the MVA so these kids will not get adequate education

Then send them to school. I think almost everyone agrees that's the preferable solution.

They did go to school. You are clueless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

First of all, most of the items on your list would and will qualify for blended learning.

Second of all, a wheelchair user would already have the ability to be assigned to a school with accessible facilities, and deserve to be educated alongside their peers.

Third of all, "wheelchair bound" is not the preferred terminology, which you would know if you saw kids who use mobility aids as anything but a talking point.

The issue is the blended program is not equal to the MVA so these kids will not get adequate education

Then send them to school. I think almost everyone agrees that's the preferable solution.

They did go to school. You are clueless.

Right, before covid nearly all of the school-aged kids went to school. And they can again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get the sense that many posters here think most of the MVA type students are in this because of imagined issues?

Well, I think that a lot of the issues that folks shared publicly and on DCUM were less than compelling. They were things like "we like to travel on non-peak seasons" and "I'm worried about the focus on fashion in public middle school."

Yes, there were folks who had kids awaiting transplants and with legitimate needs, and those folks will be able to enter the program being rolled out. But, yeah, the testimony of some of the families did not suggest a genuine medical need, and certainly not a medical need on the part of the child themselves.

And, its people are not public about why. People are not traveling. Yes, there was some genuine medical need but if it is family preference why do you care. You spend online all day. Why is that ok for you?

God the former MVA parents are tedious.

Great parents advocating for their kids. Why do you care so much? The cost is minimal. You get choice, so why shouldn’t others? If cost is a concern lots of things can be reduced in MCPS.

Everyone gets the same choices. Take what the public school offers, pay for private, or homeschool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Some MVA kids have families who have medical needs. This program does not treat those kids as part of their families--if the child themselves does not have "long term medical impacts," too bad. Remarkably short-sighted. But: it's MCPS.

Look, I live with someone undergoing chemo right now and a cold could kill him. I get it. But keeping my kids home from school for the length of chemo treatment is not a reasonable solution and has never been suggested by a single medical professional.

What is the "it" that you think you get, if it isn't the fact that you are not the same as everyone?

Sorry, it's just hard to imagine someone selfish enough to keep their kids isolated because they're not willing to take care of themselves.

Why do you assume the kids are isolated?

If they're not, why can't they go to school? Besides being inconvenient for your family schedule, that is.

Why do you think? You don’t realize how fortunate you are. Not all of us are and have the same privilege as you.

Right, some are very much more privileged, like the people that can afford to stay home with their kids all day without needing to go to work.

Clearly you don’t have health issues or know anyone that does where work is not possible. And, yes lots of families with a stay home parent as they prioritize family or kids needs. It’s all about life choices. Working is a privilege if you have severe health issues.

Then those kids really shouldn't be staying home. They're not going to be adequately supervised by someone in such shape, and would likely be pulled away from virtual class for caretaking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

First of all, most of the items on your list would and will qualify for blended learning.

Second of all, a wheelchair user would already have the ability to be assigned to a school with accessible facilities, and deserve to be educated alongside their peers.

Third of all, "wheelchair bound" is not the preferred terminology, which you would know if you saw kids who use mobility aids as anything but a talking point.

The issue is the blended program is not equal to the MVA so these kids will not get adequate education

Then send them to school. I think almost everyone agrees that's the preferable solution.

They did go to school. You are clueless.

Right, before covid nearly all of the school-aged kids went to school. And they can again.

As someone who had a kid on IIS, and then homeschooled because IIS was so awful, before covid, I can tell you there were significant numbers of kids on IIS.