Blended learning for long term medically impacted students

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

An anxiety disorder is a medical need. Whether or not the MVA was the correct response, is a different question.

MCPS used to practically force kids with anxiety disorders into IIS.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

It sounds like the kids with medical issues you described will be served by the new Blended Learning option that is forthcoming. So what are you going on about?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

It sounds like the kids with medical issues you described will be served by the new Blended Learning option that is forthcoming. So what are you going on about?

Can you tell me how they'd be better served by this program? Did you look at the program offered?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

Choices have costs. Many parents paid tens of thousands of dollars for school when MCPS was closed. If you're unwilling or inable to pay for your choices, then you're left with what is being provided.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

An anxiety disorder is a medical need. Whether or not the MVA was the correct response, is a different question.

MCPS used to practically force kids with anxiety disorders into IIS.

Parental anxiety isn't a medical need for the child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

Choices have costs. Many parents paid tens of thousands of dollars for school when MCPS was closed. If you're unwilling or inable to pay for your choices, then you're left with what is being provided.

One has nothing to do with the other. MCPS was not closed, it was virtual. Big difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

Choices have costs. Many parents paid tens of thousands of dollars for school when MCPS was closed. If you're unwilling or inable to pay for your choices, then you're left with what is being provided.

One has nothing to do with the other. MCPS was not closed, it was virtual. Big difference.

If you aren't satisfied with what the public system provides for free, you can pay for a program of your own choosing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

The parents of the child that is on the transplant list are nuts. That poor kid should absolutely be in school. People in that situation end up waiting for an organ for a long time. It's pretty easy to tell when someone has end stage liver disease just by looking at them. He's not there. There's no way his MELD score is high enough that he's getting a cadaver organ anytime soon. His parents must be in denial, possibly from feeling guilty over being unwilling or unable to be living donors.

You sound nuts not to take something as serious as that seriously. You are also very cruel. You don't know what is going on and its none of your business. Yes, that child will wait a long time but if they are sick it can have serious consequences.

You're the one that brought that family up.

And I certainly take that situation seriously. I'm sure I have more experience with that than you. Actually, I have more experience with it than that family does.

No, you don't or you'd have far more empathy and concern. You don't know what's best for this child and its up to the parents and doctors, not some random selfish stranger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

Choices have costs. Many parents paid tens of thousands of dollars for school when MCPS was closed. If you're unwilling or inable to pay for your choices, then you're left with what is being provided.

One has nothing to do with the other. MCPS was not closed, it was virtual. Big difference.

If you aren't satisfied with what the public system provides for free, you can pay for a program of your own choosing.

You do realize a lot of the MVA students did leave MCPS and MCPS will lose student revenue because of that. Since MVA education was cheaper than in person, that means your children don't benefit from the extra money spend on them that wasn't spend on the MVA students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

The parents of the child that is on the transplant list are nuts. That poor kid should absolutely be in school. People in that situation end up waiting for an organ for a long time. It's pretty easy to tell when someone has end stage liver disease just by looking at them. He's not there. There's no way his MELD score is high enough that he's getting a cadaver organ anytime soon. His parents must be in denial, possibly from feeling guilty over being unwilling or unable to be living donors.

You sound nuts not to take something as serious as that seriously. You are also very cruel. You don't know what is going on and its none of your business. Yes, that child will wait a long time but if they are sick it can have serious consequences.

You're the one that brought that family up.

And I certainly take that situation seriously. I'm sure I have more experience with that than you. Actually, I have more experience with it than that family does.

No, you don't or you'd have far more empathy and concern. You don't know what's best for this child and its up to the parents and doctors, not some random selfish stranger.

There's no way his transplant hepatologist told his parents that he needs to stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

Choices have costs. Many parents paid tens of thousands of dollars for school when MCPS was closed. If you're unwilling or inable to pay for your choices, then you're left with what is being provided.

One has nothing to do with the other. MCPS was not closed, it was virtual. Big difference.

If you aren't satisfied with what the public system provides for free, you can pay for a program of your own choosing.

You do realize a lot of the MVA students did leave MCPS and MCPS will lose student revenue because of that. Since MVA education was cheaper than in person, that means your children don't benefit from the extra money spend on them that wasn't spend on the MVA students.

I saw Courtney's post, but I didn't see a source. Regardless, she made a false assumption that all revenue is per-pupil.

And no, MVA wasn't cheaper than in-person. The marginal cost of operating MVA was more than the marginal cost of serving those students in their usual placements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

A good number did or their family members but some opted to be more involved, bullying or just learn better. Reasons don’t matter. Choice does.

There are private schools.

Some choices have costs.

Privates are for the privileged like you and that doesn't help with the virtual part. And, there is no true private that is equal to the MVA. The only few I found were $50k+ a year.

Choices have costs. Many parents paid tens of thousands of dollars for school when MCPS was closed. If you're unwilling or inable to pay for your choices, then you're left with what is being provided.

One has nothing to do with the other. MCPS was not closed, it was virtual. Big difference.

If you aren't satisfied with what the public system provides for free, you can pay for a program of your own choosing.

You do realize a lot of the MVA students did leave MCPS and MCPS will lose student revenue because of that. Since MVA education was cheaper than in person, that means your children don't benefit from the extra money spend on them that wasn't spend on the MVA students.

I saw Courtney's post, but I didn't see a source. Regardless, she made a false assumption that all revenue is per-pupil.

And no, MVA wasn't cheaper than in-person. The marginal cost of operating MVA was more than the marginal cost of serving those students in their usual placements.

In theory the per pupil allocation should go for that child but it obviously doesn't. However, yes, it is cheaper, no buses, no activities/sports in person, no physical buildings, etc. So, tell me how it would cost the same?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know MCPS was working on a solution. This looks really positive for families who were previously enrolled in MVA and cannot attend school due to medical needs. I especially like that parent supervision is required for children under 12 and recommended for over 12.

Most MVA kids didn't have medical needs. That's why the MVAers don't like the plan.

Correct. Most MVA families wanted the option preserved for their choice or to continue to enable their children’s anxiety disorders.

Anxiety is an illness. If you can’t go do school in person due to your anxiety, this is a great option.

It’s an illness with many treatments options. Many kids who have anxiety successfully attend in-person and have been doing so for years.

Right, and many also got better treatment as they were in virtual, could get rid of the triggers and focus on their mental health. Many kids have NOT been successful in person. That is why they have so many meaningless mental health trainings for the kids and have social workers, counselors and therapists in the schools as parents no longer parent and expect the schools to do everything. If kids were managing so great, why is in person such a hot mess.

So, you think the kid that need an organ transplant would be better off in person? Kids with medical issues? Kids with mental health issues that struggled in person? Kids whose learning style works best with virtual and/or kids who need more support who aren't getting it in person where they can at home? How about kids with severe medical and other issues? Wheelchair-bound in a school without good access? Kids who rely on adults for their daily care, bathroom, etc? How about the kids who were forced back in person and don't have para's as promised?

The parents of the child that is on the transplant list are nuts. That poor kid should absolutely be in school. People in that situation end up waiting for an organ for a long time. It's pretty easy to tell when someone has end stage liver disease just by looking at them. He's not there. There's no way his MELD score is high enough that he's getting a cadaver organ anytime soon. His parents must be in denial, possibly from feeling guilty over being unwilling or unable to be living donors.

You sound nuts not to take something as serious as that seriously. You are also very cruel. You don't know what is going on and its none of your business. Yes, that child will wait a long time but if they are sick it can have serious consequences.

You're the one that brought that family up.

And I certainly take that situation seriously. I'm sure I have more experience with that than you. Actually, I have more experience with it than that family does.

No, you don't or you'd have far more empathy and concern. You don't know what's best for this child and its up to the parents and doctors, not some random selfish stranger.

There's no way his transplant hepatologist told his parents that he needs to stay home.

Did you listen to the testimony? They said he could not be exposed to colds/flu/covid. Its going around the schools now and many are sick or out sick. We had multiple teachers out sick this week. Our family got it too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree! I am happy that MCPS worked with the families to find a solution.

As a parent of a child who greatly benefited from the COVID closures, I understand being in a tough spot and needing outside-the-box solutions.

To be clear, they didn't work with families to find a solution. We were told they would come up with something and it would be announced today but there was no MVAPTC/family input. No one would have agreed to this which is why they kept it secret. It also requires a medical form which is a problem if parents cannot get appointments quickly.

In theory, you already have the medical form. If your child is medically vulnerable they haven’t been in school this year. With MVA closing there was no other option except for IIS which requires a medical signature. I suppose you could have been homeschooling but if that’s working for you, I don’t know why you would go back to MCPS.

They want a new form and a lot of kids were denied IIS even with medical forms and doctors getting involved. A good number did homeschool or do private virtual or tutoring. Some moved away.

If virtual school was my #1 priority, this is what I would do rather than cling to hope that MCPS will bring MVA back. There are plenty of states that have offer virtual school programs, you wouldn't be limited to particular cities/districts.