North Korea U20 Women’s World Cup Champions

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But simply put, who would've ever thought N.Korean teens would be showing better skills, more technical IQ, and just downright playing better soccer than our own ECNL, GA, Professional Academy trained DDs? With all of the money we as parents are spending here in the US on Team tuition, team fees, travel expenses, private coaching, etc. ?!?! It's maddening! And a stark realization that the US Youth system, with probably the highest cost of admission in the world, is overrated, highly flawed and behind the likes of N.Korea and other Nations on the international stage.

OP of the cynical comment about nature of development in North Korea and some of it was said tongue in cheek. I do agree at the USYNT levels, there is a problem with the system that is being utilized here - whether its the type of player, the overall style of play, etc.

The US U17 roster is made up of young women that are playing Club, College and Pro. 3 very different levels of soccer with disparate goals and places where the players are along their development path. How long is this squad coming together to develop cohesiveness with their teammates, overall style of play? Couple weeks at different camps throughout the year? Couple weeks again before the tournament? I think that the goal that North Korea scored was a result of this lack of cohesiveness. Ball crossed in - goalie probably should have aggressively called off the defender and snagged it. Instead, no action from the goalie and defender headed it out but to to the top of the box where the North Korean player jumped on it and ripped a shot for a goal. That's my look at it, could be wrong.

For countries like Spain, IMO that is overcome because they have developed a style of play and ID'd a type of player that is universally being utilized up through all levels of their system. For countries like North Korea, those players do nothing but play soccer with that group, study with that group. Drill, drill, drill. Do I know that for a fact - no, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption. IMO, they (North Korea) have chosen soccer as a sport that they can focus on and have a population mix that works for that effort. Women's basketball, volleyball - not so much, right?

Excuses. Right now there are thousands or millions of kids playing for different leagues and US Scouting couldn’t gather a team of champions? Stop relying on the club coach picks who have club promotion interest. US scouts should look at a wider range, have a different league or type of tourney or other that all players can afford to go. Partner with schools to make their leagues better. It looks like the old ODP was actually a better option. Oh oh the problem is that the US scouts are the same as the club owners.

ECNL, GA, USYSA, NCAA, NWSL are all represented on the roster. Where else should the scouts be looking?

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OP of the cynical comment about nature of development in North Korea and some of it was said tongue in cheek. I do agree at the USYNT levels, there is a problem with the system that is being utilized here - whether its the type of player, the overall style of play, etc.

The US U17 roster is made up of young women that are playing Club, College and Pro. 3 very different levels of soccer with disparate goals and places where the players are along their development path. How long is this squad coming together to develop cohesiveness with their teammates, overall style of play? Couple weeks at different camps throughout the year? Couple weeks again before the tournament? I think that the goal that North Korea scored was a result of this lack of cohesiveness. Ball crossed in - goalie probably should have aggressively called off the defender and snagged it. Instead, no action from the goalie and defender headed it out but to to the top of the box where the North Korean player jumped on it and ripped a shot for a goal. That's my look at it, could be wrong.

For countries like Spain, IMO that is overcome because they have developed a style of play and ID'd a type of player that is universally being utilized up through all levels of their system. For countries like North Korea, those players do nothing but play soccer with that group, study with that group. Drill, drill, drill. Do I know that for a fact - no, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption. IMO, they (North Korea) have chosen soccer as a sport that they can focus on and have a population mix that works for that effort. Women's basketball, volleyball - not so much, right?

Not once, but twice in the span of a month, North Korea has demonstrated that they are a superior soccer nation, at least on the Women's Youth level and that is INSANE! North freaking Korea Sure, they beat other nations as well, but that's besides my point.

For the longest period, USWNT soccer was synonymous with dominance on the world stage. And at this point in time, when soccer is enjoying the highest level of popularity here in the US, the quality and level of our national teams seem a bit diminished.

USWNT just won Olympic gold.
U20 had their best finish since 2012.
U17 had their best finish since 2008.

Do a little research bud. The teams are better.

Everyone one in the world is better regarding female soccer, problem is, which you aren’t understanding, that USA with all the league apparatus, pay to play system, resources galore, best fields you can imagine, isn’t devouring the opponents. They’re actually getting beat by a dictator communist nation with NONE of the things I mentioned at their disposal.

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OP of the cynical comment about nature of development in North Korea and some of it was said tongue in cheek. I do agree at the USYNT levels, there is a problem with the system that is being utilized here - whether its the type of player, the overall style of play, etc.

The US U17 roster is made up of young women that are playing Club, College and Pro. 3 very different levels of soccer with disparate goals and places where the players are along their development path. How long is this squad coming together to develop cohesiveness with their teammates, overall style of play? Couple weeks at different camps throughout the year? Couple weeks again before the tournament? I think that the goal that North Korea scored was a result of this lack of cohesiveness. Ball crossed in - goalie probably should have aggressively called off the defender and snagged it. Instead, no action from the goalie and defender headed it out but to to the top of the box where the North Korean player jumped on it and ripped a shot for a goal. That's my look at it, could be wrong.

For countries like Spain, IMO that is overcome because they have developed a style of play and ID'd a type of player that is universally being utilized up through all levels of their system. For countries like North Korea, those players do nothing but play soccer with that group, study with that group. Drill, drill, drill. Do I know that for a fact - no, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption. IMO, they (North Korea) have chosen soccer as a sport that they can focus on and have a population mix that works for that effort. Women's basketball, volleyball - not so much, right?

Not once, but twice in the span of a month, North Korea has demonstrated that they are a superior soccer nation, at least on the Women's Youth level and that is INSANE! North freaking Korea Sure, they beat other nations as well, but that's besides my point.

For the longest period, USWNT soccer was synonymous with dominance on the world stage. And at this point in time, when soccer is enjoying the highest level of popularity here in the US, the quality and level of our national teams seem a bit diminished.

USWNT just won Olympic gold.
U20 had their best finish since 2012.
U17 had their best finish since 2008.

Do a little research bud. The teams are better.

Everyone one in the world is better regarding female soccer, problem is, which you aren’t understanding, that USA with all the league apparatus, pay to play system, resources galore, best fields you can imagine, isn’t devouring the opponents. They’re actually getting beat by a dictator communist nation with NONE of the things I mentioned at their disposal.

^this!

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OP of the cynical comment about nature of development in North Korea and some of it was said tongue in cheek. I do agree at the USYNT levels, there is a problem with the system that is being utilized here - whether its the type of player, the overall style of play, etc.

The US U17 roster is made up of young women that are playing Club, College and Pro. 3 very different levels of soccer with disparate goals and places where the players are along their development path. How long is this squad coming together to develop cohesiveness with their teammates, overall style of play? Couple weeks at different camps throughout the year? Couple weeks again before the tournament? I think that the goal that North Korea scored was a result of this lack of cohesiveness. Ball crossed in - goalie probably should have aggressively called off the defender and snagged it. Instead, no action from the goalie and defender headed it out but to to the top of the box where the North Korean player jumped on it and ripped a shot for a goal. That's my look at it, could be wrong.

For countries like Spain, IMO that is overcome because they have developed a style of play and ID'd a type of player that is universally being utilized up through all levels of their system. For countries like North Korea, those players do nothing but play soccer with that group, study with that group. Drill, drill, drill. Do I know that for a fact - no, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption. IMO, they (North Korea) have chosen soccer as a sport that they can focus on and have a population mix that works for that effort. Women's basketball, volleyball - not so much, right?

Not once, but twice in the span of a month, North Korea has demonstrated that they are a superior soccer nation, at least on the Women's Youth level and that is INSANE! North freaking Korea Sure, they beat other nations as well, but that's besides my point.

For the longest period, USWNT soccer was synonymous with dominance on the world stage. And at this point in time, when soccer is enjoying the highest level of popularity here in the US, the quality and level of our national teams seem a bit diminished.

USWNT just won Olympic gold.
U20 had their best finish since 2012.
U17 had their best finish since 2008.

Do a little research bud. The teams are better.

Everyone one in the world is better regarding female soccer, problem is, which you aren’t understanding, that USA with all the league apparatus, pay to play system, resources galore, best fields you can imagine, isn’t devouring the opponents. They’re actually getting beat by a dictator communist nation with NONE of the things I mentioned at their disposal.

^this!

North Korea beat everyone in both tournaments. How racist are you? You’re assuming they can’t be a powerful soccer nation without a white majority and capitalist economy?

[Anonymous]

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OP of the cynical comment about nature of development in North Korea and some of it was said tongue in cheek. I do agree at the USYNT levels, there is a problem with the system that is being utilized here - whether its the type of player, the overall style of play, etc.

The US U17 roster is made up of young women that are playing Club, College and Pro. 3 very different levels of soccer with disparate goals and places where the players are along their development path. How long is this squad coming together to develop cohesiveness with their teammates, overall style of play? Couple weeks at different camps throughout the year? Couple weeks again before the tournament? I think that the goal that North Korea scored was a result of this lack of cohesiveness. Ball crossed in - goalie probably should have aggressively called off the defender and snagged it. Instead, no action from the goalie and defender headed it out but to to the top of the box where the North Korean player jumped on it and ripped a shot for a goal. That's my look at it, could be wrong.

For countries like Spain, IMO that is overcome because they have developed a style of play and ID'd a type of player that is universally being utilized up through all levels of their system. For countries like North Korea, those players do nothing but play soccer with that group, study with that group. Drill, drill, drill. Do I know that for a fact - no, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption. IMO, they (North Korea) have chosen soccer as a sport that they can focus on and have a population mix that works for that effort. Women's basketball, volleyball - not so much, right?

Not once, but twice in the span of a month, North Korea has demonstrated that they are a superior soccer nation, at least on the Women's Youth level and that is INSANE! North freaking Korea Sure, they beat other nations as well, but that's besides my point.

For the longest period, USWNT soccer was synonymous with dominance on the world stage. And at this point in time, when soccer is enjoying the highest level of popularity here in the US, the quality and level of our national teams seem a bit diminished.

USWNT just won Olympic gold.
U20 had their best finish since 2012.
U17 had their best finish since 2008.

Do a little research bud. The teams are better.

Everyone one in the world is better regarding female soccer, problem is, which you aren’t understanding, that USA with all the league apparatus, pay to play system, resources galore, best fields you can imagine, isn’t devouring the opponents. They’re actually getting beat by a dictator communist nation with NONE of the things I mentioned at their disposal.

^this!

North Korea beat everyone in both tournaments. How racist are you? You’re assuming they can’t be a powerful soccer nation without a white majority and capitalist economy?

Nah, your stupid af by bringing up racism… it’s the last thing a certain group of people who vote for joy do when their arguments and reasons are demolished with objective facts and data. Using your logic though… with USA being the most diverse with whites, blacks, browns and anything in between, couldn’t beat a bunch of homogeneous girls from a totalitarian country… please explain that? LOL

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With USA being the most diverse with white, blacks, browns and anything in between, couldn't win every Olympic gold medal in Paris ... please explain that? LOL

[Anonymous]

Pretty obvious. USA team is a grouping of star players individually playing vs a whole team who've been playing since 5 years old together.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty obvious. USA team is a grouping of star players individually playing vs a whole team who've been playing since 5 years old together.

The England win was big, disappointed to see USA lost to North Korea but clearly they are doing a very good job developing young players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With USA being the most diverse with white, blacks, browns and anything in between, couldn't win every Olympic gold medal in Paris ... please explain that? LOL

+1

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Anonymous wrote:disappointed to see USA lost to North Korea but clearly they are doing a very good job developing young players

You're drawing the wrong conclusion IMO. Results in U17 tournaments don't prove that the US is doing great at developing young players, any more than it shows that DPRK is the best at it.