RMSC Minis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t know their names? No introductions?

Not from the ones observing. Those are mostly associate coaches. We had an issue with the tryouts and the head coaches claimed to not be in the pool area at all.

It's really more about which hands you grease with private lessons or other USA swimming program you transfer from.

"Thanks for your email. I completely understand your frustration. I did ask the coaches that were evaluating the swimmers to try a dive if they had time. Unfortunately, one coach misunderstood and took them off the blocks instead of the side as I had mentioned. Diving off the side is all we would expect for anyone coming into our program. We know there aren't opportunities to go off blocks. I apologize."

They have tons of kids trying out. It’s very impersonal. The minis and juniors are big groups. It gets more personal with seniors.

No, it's not, they give private tryouts for kids they tutor.

Prospective Seniors in RMSC attend group tryouts like everyone else, ans the groups are not small.
What you're probably thinking about here is something more like an elite swimmer putting in for a club transfer at the national-training level. That is not going to look the same.

This is what the RSFC director said, I was in the next lane when the instructor was offering kids they were tutoring to tryout and the parents of other kids who were in the same summer league as my daughter told me that is what they did, I saw their times nothing special, same mini program as everyone else. They did it a few months before the open tryouts:

"Regarding the mid-season RMSC tryout, there were a small number of spots available due to swimmers aging up to another practice group. Due to the very small number of spots available, coaches invited a mixed bag of swimmers to tryout, some of whom were new to the area and did not have the opportunity to tryout in the fall, some already in the RMSC program at another site, in addition to some who tried out previously and were not accepted but were thought to be very close to the threshold. To make it more transparent on the mid-season tryout process, text has been added to the RMSC Information materials posted to our website with instructions on how to express interest."

EG they cheated fair and square. I don't understand why they didn't just have them do open tryouts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also interested in the answer to this. Part of me thinks trying out will be a waste of time and to focus instead on a stroke and turn class for this year and try out next year when DC will be 8.

Mini takes kids up to 8 year old, so being 8 means being the oldest kids in the club. Your kid needs to be comparative to 8 year old in the club since there is only less than 1 year for them to work with your kid. So in other words, they’d be more interested in 5,6 year olds who they can spend 2-3 years to work with than getting an 8 year old who are not extremely competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t know their names? No introductions?

Not from the ones observing. Those are mostly associate coaches. We had an issue with the tryouts and the head coaches claimed to not be in the pool area at all.

It's really more about which hands you grease with private lessons or other USA swimming program you transfer from.

"Thanks for your email. I completely understand your frustration. I did ask the coaches that were evaluating the swimmers to try a dive if they had time. Unfortunately, one coach misunderstood and took them off the blocks instead of the side as I had mentioned. Diving off the side is all we would expect for anyone coming into our program. We know there aren't opportunities to go off blocks. I apologize."

They have tons of kids trying out. It’s very impersonal. The minis and juniors are big groups. It gets more personal with seniors.

No, it's not, they give private tryouts for kids they tutor.

Prospective Seniors in RMSC attend group tryouts like everyone else, ans the groups are not small.
What you're probably thinking about here is something more like an elite swimmer putting in for a club transfer at the national-training level. That is not going to look the same.

This is what the RSFC director said, I was in the next lane when the instructor was offering kids they were tutoring to tryout and the parents of other kids who were in the same summer league as my daughter told me that is what they did, I saw their times nothing special, same mini program as everyone else. They did it a few months before the open tryouts:

"Regarding the mid-season RMSC tryout, there were a small number of spots available due to swimmers aging up to another practice group. Due to the very small number of spots available, coaches invited a mixed bag of swimmers to tryout, some of whom were new to the area and did not have the opportunity to tryout in the fall, some already in the RMSC program at another site, in addition to some who tried out previously and were not accepted but were thought to be very close to the threshold. To make it more transparent on the mid-season tryout process, text has been added to the RMSC Information materials posted to our website with instructions on how to express interest."

EG they cheated fair and square. I don't understand why they didn't just have them do open tryouts?

Were these kids offered the free spot too scared to go off the blocks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t know their names? No introductions?

Not from the ones observing. Those are mostly associate coaches. We had an issue with the tryouts and the head coaches claimed to not be in the pool area at all.

It's really more about which hands you grease with private lessons or other USA swimming program you transfer from.

"Thanks for your email. I completely understand your frustration. I did ask the coaches that were evaluating the swimmers to try a dive if they had time. Unfortunately, one coach misunderstood and took them off the blocks instead of the side as I had mentioned. Diving off the side is all we would expect for anyone coming into our program. We know there aren't opportunities to go off blocks. I apologize."

They have tons of kids trying out. It’s very impersonal. The minis and juniors are big groups. It gets more personal with seniors.

No, it's not, they give private tryouts for kids they tutor.

Prospective Seniors in RMSC attend group tryouts like everyone else, ans the groups are not small.
What you're probably thinking about here is something more like an elite swimmer putting in for a club transfer at the national-training level. That is not going to look the same.

This is what the RSFC director said, I was in the next lane when the instructor was offering kids they were tutoring to tryout and the parents of other kids who were in the same summer league as my daughter told me that is what they did, I saw their times nothing special, same mini program as everyone else. They did it a few months before the open tryouts:

"Regarding the mid-season RMSC tryout, there were a small number of spots available due to swimmers aging up to another practice group. Due to the very small number of spots available, coaches invited a mixed bag of swimmers to tryout, some of whom were new to the area and did not have the opportunity to tryout in the fall, some already in the RMSC program at another site, in addition to some who tried out previously and were not accepted but were thought to be very close to the threshold. To make it more transparent on the mid-season tryout process, text has been added to the RMSC Information materials posted to our website with instructions on how to express interest."

EG they cheated fair and square. I don't understand why they didn't just have them do open tryouts?

Ok, Kramer 🌹

[Anonymous]

Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

[Anonymous]

Here’s how it worked out for my kids:
They tried out when my they were a young 7 and 8 (turning 9). Younger one made it, older one did not. Older one continued to try out every year. Eventually made it in at 12 (and was place in an advanced group when they finally made it in). In the intervening years he continued to swim in the winter, first in clinics then with Tibu. Tibu was a great option.

7 year old was legal in all stokes and able to make A meets in breaststroke when she made it in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also interested in the answer to this. Part of me thinks trying out will be a waste of time and to focus instead on a stroke and turn class for this year and try out next year when DC will be 8.

Mini takes kids up to 8 year old, so being 8 means being the oldest kids in the club. Your kid needs to be comparative to 8 year old in the club since there is only less than 1 year for them to work with your kid. So in other words, they’d be more interested in 5,6 year olds who they can spend 2-3 years to work with than getting an 8 year old who are not extremely competitive.

They also need to factor the numbers in terms of the child moving up to juniors as they only have so much space to move up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

You're upset about wasted time? What about all the parents that take their kids to crooked tryouts where they have already given the spots away then have them do things that aren't even in the prerequisite courses. Are they going to apologize for that also?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

You're upset about wasted time? What about all the parents that take their kids to crooked tryouts where they have already given the spots away then have them do things that aren't even in the prerequisite courses. Are they going to apologize for that also?

not PP. but you really need to put it behind and move on. though you've burnt the bridge at one site, you can still try out at other sites (e.g., Olney not far from Rockville site, they have great program too). many of us brought kids for trying out many places not knowing where may offer them spot. no one complained it as a waste. each coach has their own way to evaluate swimmer, could be subjective but they've seen thousands of swimmers, the margin of error is much less than your own judgement of your own kid. we used to try out at one club every year, but never got in (though my kid's other friends, taller, smaller, faster, slower all got in). we tried out again this year, got invited, but ironically we no longer wanted to swim with that club. just saying it's not like something you cannot get is something best for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

You're upset about wasted time? What about all the parents that take their kids to crooked tryouts where they have already given the spots away then have them do things that aren't even in the prerequisite courses. Are they going to apologize for that also?

not PP. but you really need to put it behind and move on. though you've burnt the bridge at one site, you can still try out at other sites (e.g., Olney not far from Rockville site, they have great program too). many of us brought kids for trying out many places not knowing where may offer them spot. no one complained it as a waste. each coach has their own way to evaluate swimmer, could be subjective but they've seen thousands of swimmers, the margin of error is much less than your own judgement of your own kid. we used to try out at one club every year, but never got in (though my kid's other friends, taller, smaller, faster, slower all got in). we tried out again this year, got invited, but ironically we no longer wanted to swim with that club. just saying it's not like something you cannot get is something best for you.

Totally agree, but I didn't start this thread. I was attempting to provide information for others, you know there are more of us not making the clubs...

I didn't ask for the mistreatment. There is not warning, they didn't put in the statement anywhere, where they would ask kids to perform arbitrary skills that are expected of the kids already in the developmental program.

The flyer said skills as in "strokers III" two or three strokes depending on the age.

You have to go to DCUM to find out what they really do at those tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

You're upset about wasted time? What about all the parents that take their kids to crooked tryouts where they have already given the spots away then have them do things that aren't even in the prerequisite courses. Are they going to apologize for that also?

not PP. but you really need to put it behind and move on. though you've burnt the bridge at one site, you can still try out at other sites (e.g., Olney not far from Rockville site, they have great program too). many of us brought kids for trying out many places not knowing where may offer them spot. no one complained it as a waste. each coach has their own way to evaluate swimmer, could be subjective but they've seen thousands of swimmers, the margin of error is much less than your own judgement of your own kid. we used to try out at one club every year, but never got in (though my kid's other friends, taller, smaller, faster, slower all got in). we tried out again this year, got invited, but ironically we no longer wanted to swim with that club. just saying it's not like something you cannot get is something best for you.

Totally agree, but I didn't start this thread. I was attempting to provide information for others, you know there are more of us not making the clubs...

I didn't ask for the mistreatment. There is not warning, they didn't put in the statement anywhere, where they would ask kids to perform arbitrary skills that are expected of the kids already in the developmental program.

The flyer said skills as in "strokers III" two or three strokes depending on the age.

You have to go to DCUM to find out what they really do at those tryouts.

You weren’t mistreated. Lol! Tell me you’re a millennial without telling me you’re a millennial!

There are never guarantees at tryouts. So now that you know this, will that stop you from having your daughter audition/tryout to be a part of an activity? What happens when she doesn’t gain admission to the college of her dreams? Lessons could be learned here but you’re focusing on the wrong things and playing the victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

You're upset about wasted time? What about all the parents that take their kids to crooked tryouts where they have already given the spots away then have them do things that aren't even in the prerequisite courses. Are they going to apologize for that also?

not PP. but you really need to put it behind and move on. though you've burnt the bridge at one site, you can still try out at other sites (e.g., Olney not far from Rockville site, they have great program too). many of us brought kids for trying out many places not knowing where may offer them spot. no one complained it as a waste. each coach has their own way to evaluate swimmer, could be subjective but they've seen thousands of swimmers, the margin of error is much less than your own judgement of your own kid. we used to try out at one club every year, but never got in (though my kid's other friends, taller, smaller, faster, slower all got in). we tried out again this year, got invited, but ironically we no longer wanted to swim with that club. just saying it's not like something you cannot get is something best for you.

Totally agree, but I didn't start this thread. I was attempting to provide information for others, you know there are more of us not making the clubs...

I didn't ask for the mistreatment. There is not warning, they didn't put in the statement anywhere, where they would ask kids to perform arbitrary skills that are expected of the kids already in the developmental program.

The flyer said skills as in "strokers III" two or three strokes depending on the age.

You have to go to DCUM to find out what they really do at those tryouts.

You weren’t mistreated. Lol! Tell me you’re a millennial without telling me you’re a millennial!

There are never guarantees at tryouts. So now that you know this, will that stop you from having your daughter audition/tryout to be a part of an activity? What happens when she doesn’t gain admission to the college of her dreams? Lessons could be learned here but you’re focusing on the wrong things and playing the victim.

College admissions are none of your business. What are you going to do about RMSC being caught cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. K,
There are a variety of reasons why your daughter wasn’t offered a spot:
* she lacked the core strokes
* she didn’t take direction well
* others were better than her
* the coaches recognized she wasn’t as into swimming as her parent
* the coaches had no interest in dealing with her bat sh!t crazy parent.

Based on your inflexibility of thought and fixation on this, I recommend you get screened for mental illness.

Doesn't sound very apologetic.

Who isn’t apologizing? The poster who keeps wasting our time with the same sob story about why his daughter didn’t make a swim team, and is determined to pull funding from the facility that hosts that swim team?

You're upset about wasted time? What about all the parents that take their kids to crooked tryouts where they have already given the spots away then have them do things that aren't even in the prerequisite courses. Are they going to apologize for that also?

not PP. but you really need to put it behind and move on. though you've burnt the bridge at one site, you can still try out at other sites (e.g., Olney not far from Rockville site, they have great program too). many of us brought kids for trying out many places not knowing where may offer them spot. no one complained it as a waste. each coach has their own way to evaluate swimmer, could be subjective but they've seen thousands of swimmers, the margin of error is much less than your own judgement of your own kid. we used to try out at one club every year, but never got in (though my kid's other friends, taller, smaller, faster, slower all got in). we tried out again this year, got invited, but ironically we no longer wanted to swim with that club. just saying it's not like something you cannot get is something best for you.

Totally agree, but I didn't start this thread. I was attempting to provide information for others, you know there are more of us not making the clubs...

I didn't ask for the mistreatment. There is not warning, they didn't put in the statement anywhere, where they would ask kids to perform arbitrary skills that are expected of the kids already in the developmental program.

The flyer said skills as in "strokers III" two or three strokes depending on the age.

You have to go to DCUM to find out what they really do at those tryouts.

You weren’t mistreated. Lol! Tell me you’re a millennial without telling me you’re a millennial!

There are never guarantees at tryouts. So now that you know this, will that stop you from having your daughter audition/tryout to be a part of an activity? What happens when she doesn’t gain admission to the college of her dreams? Lessons could be learned here but you’re focusing on the wrong things and playing the victim.

College admissions are none of your business. What are you going to do about RMSC being caught cheating.

She is going to need a good IMX score if she wants to get into a good college