Young Ones and LGBTQIA

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Anonymous wrote:As an increasingly middle aged gay man who came of age in the late 1990s and early 2000s, it is amusing to witness today's youth generation.

There are some parallels with yesterday's teen angst, particularly among that female demographic. But I am especially amused by that the rapid growth in "queer" identities is not matched by an equal growth in same sex relationships and same sex activity.

Make what you want of it. I do find most of the "queer" identifying women rather silly and infantile, faking imaginary identities for themselves as an escape from the other problems in their lives. When it's become a cliche down to the point of having identical uniforms with their identical purple hairs and canvas bags and tattoos and clear rimmed glasses, you know there's something going on that is far more that genuine sexual attraction, which is not something you can fake your way through. I concur with previous posters who pointed out straight people do not have sexual attractions with the same gender. They just don't. That's why they're straight, for the same reason gay men are not attracted to sex with women. We find it repulsive.


Slightly younger gay here. I think there is a legitimate question that needs to be researched on why the frequency identifying as LGBT+ has increased so dramatically. Increasing acceptance and tolerance is probably explains part of this change. However, the research is clear that the genetic heritability for sexuality is no where near 100% and likely under 50%. So what environmental components other than increasing acceptance are possibly causing this significant generational difference. Is human sexuality more flexible/malleable than we previously thought or is it related to environmental changes. Sexuality does not have to be a choice for changes in the population frequency population of a specific behavior to be explained by environmental factors.


I am also a younger gay man and slight agree with younger-gay-and I really agree with middle-aged-gay PP and completely understand the and have had the same observations as OP.

I think some of the increase is greater acceptance which is great.

But there is no way that this on it’s own is the reason for the huge increase. I’m skeptical if it’s even responsible for the majority of the increase.

And the increase is most pronounced in women. There was a massive national trans youth survey done in 2017 or 18 and almost all non-binary people were under age 24… and a full 80% were assigned female at birth.

In European countries that had government funded youth gender clinics, there was a study showing the numbers and demographics of kids over the history of the clinic being open. Until like 2015 there was always slightly more male-to-female transitioners (like 1.25 males-to-female for every 1 female-to-male) over a period of a couple years the numbers increased so high they stopped accepting new patients and the ratio went to more than 2 female-to-male for every 1 male-to-female.

There is 100% some social contagion here.

Which in and of itself isn’t bad. Gatekeeping can be very obnoxious too.

Kids exploring their identities is fine, even if it sometimes seems silly and performative and a bit obnoxious to us older generations

Where, in my opinion, it has become enough of an issue (enough that I’m asking myself WTAF is happening, and reading studies and surveys like I previously mentioned in order to better understand);

is that the cliché queer individuals the middle-aged-gay PP described are becoming the loudest and dominant voice—and thus the face of the LGBTQ+ movement. And a lot of their ideas are controversial to even the rest of us. But heaven forbid you speak out unless you want to be shunned and shamed.

Just my two cents as a younger millenial gay man.



Can you name the queer people that are speaking for all LGBT people? Can you mention a few of the controversial ideas that affect LGBT people (and not just trans people) that you disagree with?
Anonymous
In defense of OP - in my observation of progressive DC parents who teach their kids how wonderful it is to be LGBTQIA+ from birth - a huge proportion of the kids end up as LGBTQIA+. A significantly disproportionate amount of T. It seems clear to me that upbringing has a big role in how kids end up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In defense of OP - in my observation of progressive DC parents who teach their kids how wonderful it is to be LGBTQIA+ from birth - a huge proportion of the kids end up as LGBTQIA+. A significantly disproportionate amount of T. It seems clear to me that upbringing has a big role in how kids end up.


Yeah, I agree. When you’re accepting of people, they’re free to be themselves. When you’re not accepting of people who are different from you, the people around you have to appear to conform to keep the peace. It’s kind of wild how things happen more frequently when they’re not taboo or shrouded in shame.
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