Move to California-new jobs for DH and I

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

The UC system is very good and much less expensive than a lot of other colleges.

California is great. You only have to pay for 12 years of private school but have a great discount on good colleges.

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DCUM takes on life in California are always so looney-tunes.

I’m from California. All my relatives pay for private.

There are lots of great public school districts in California…

We lived in CA for about five years in a wealthy community and the schools were terribly underfunded despite crazy taxes as the money goes up to the state and then gets filtered down through levels of bureaucracy. Our ES had good teachers but it was embarrassing how money had to be raised to afford things like paper for the copiers and basic art supplies. We were about to send our kids to private but we had the opportunity to move to the north shore of Chicago which has wonderful public schools. Lower COL, lower taxes but very cold winters but it was worth it.

Chicago has lower taxes???
I lived there in 99 and LOVED it, recently I drove by and it seems the downtown has closed up some areas, it doesnt look as nice.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

Northern California is BIG. It’s not entirely made up of San Jose and SF. Of course beaches are warmer in the San Diego area. But there are many places in Northern California where people are normal.

Agreed. For Northern California I would look at the East Bay like San Ramon, or Sacramento suburbs.

San Ramon is like 4 hours to the beach, 5 hours to the mountains and hits 120F for like 1/2 the summer. Sacramento is closer to Yosemite which is nice, but not that close, and is hotter for even longer. Sacramento schools are meh. SR schools are okay.

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Anonymous wrote:This is terrible for the environment. Flying so much every week. How entitled you must be!

+1, and people jeering this seem not to realize that many of OP's bosses, peers, etc will think the same thing.
At best she will be the crazy one with the wild commute that makes her more likely to quit (ie, a risk to promote) but many will also find it morally wrong. It will harm her advancement.

Lol no. 😆😆😆

I realize you’ve never worked professionally in your life, so you have a completely fantasy-based view of the workplace but let me tell you that outside of the semi-abusive work environment of a few environmental NGOs based in San Francisco, commuting by plane will not hurt career advancement. Actually you are more likely to hear a “huh, bet you save a lot on housing costs” and then people will forget.

They won’t care about environment I agree, but will consider them a flight risk (so to speak) and hurt advancement.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

Northern California is BIG. It’s not entirely made up of San Jose and SF. Of course beaches are warmer in the San Diego area. But there are many places in Northern California where people are normal.

Agreed. For Northern California I would look at the East Bay like San Ramon, or Sacramento suburbs.

San Ramon is like 4 hours to the beach, 5 hours to the mountains and hits 120F for like 1/2 the summer. Sacramento is closer to Yosemite which is nice, but not that close, and is hotter for even longer. Sacramento schools are meh. SR schools are okay.

Holy crap so much misinformation here I don’t even know where to start. Bet this is written by an East Coast transplant who never stepped foot out of Silicon Valley

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

Northern California is BIG. It’s not entirely made up of San Jose and SF. Of course beaches are warmer in the San Diego area. But there are many places in Northern California where people are normal.

Agreed. For Northern California I would look at the East Bay like San Ramon, or Sacramento suburbs.

San Ramon is like 4 hours to the beach, 5 hours to the mountains and hits 120F for like 1/2 the summer. Sacramento is closer to Yosemite which is nice, but not that close, and is hotter for even longer. Sacramento schools are meh. SR schools are okay.

Holy crap so much misinformation here I don’t even know where to start. Bet this is written by an East Coast transplant who never stepped foot out of Silicon Valley

Dead of night drive SR to SC is 1.5 hrs. But when it’s beach season, the traffic is epic and hits around. 4 hours.

Same with Yosemite, 2.5 hrs dead of night but go at the good times it’s awful.

California is full and the infrastructure does not support the population.

I’ve bake in San Ramon in July, it’s awful.

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One caution: public school districts in California do not always follow the county/city/town boundaries as is usual on kost of the east coast. Also, sometimes the elementary district boundaries vary from the HS district boundaries. So if buying a house, verify yourself which school district(s) the house lies within. Do not trust any anecdotes or MLS listing data.

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Anonymous wrote:One caution: public school districts in California do not always follow the county/city/town boundaries as is usual on kost of the east coast. Also, sometimes the elementary district boundaries vary from the HS district boundaries. So if buying a house, verify yourself which school district(s) the house lies within. Do not trust any anecdotes or MLS listing data.

Now this actual useful and accurate advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why the one of you with the offer in SoCal didn't accept, and the other double down on job search efforts in that area? The odds of you simultaneously being offered dream jobs in dream location seems low, no?

Op here. I think our feeling is that we need both our incomes for California to be a realistic possibility and there are no guarantees we will ever both get jobs in the same city.

For now we live in a LCOL area and we both make okayish money so for us to move we’d both have to get huge raises.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why the one of you with the offer in SoCal didn't accept, and the other double down on job search efforts in that area? The odds of you simultaneously being offered dream jobs in dream location seems low, no?

Op here. I think our feeling is that we need both our incomes for California to be a realistic possibility and there are no guarantees we will ever both get jobs in the same city.

For now we live in a LCOL area and we both make okayish money so for us to move we’d both have to get huge raises.

This really depends on where you are in California. Some of the posters in this thread are obviously insane. If you like SoCal, are you willing to live inland a bit? Then you can live on one income, depending on the income. You can’t do that in La Jolla obviously but there are a lot of nice places in SoCal.

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Check out Sacramento - yes, we have hot summers but housing is a lot more affordable. Tahoe and SF are each less than 2hrs away. You don’t need as much in salary as you do in the coasts. It’s a nice slower pace over here. A lot more work life balance. My DH and I make decent money and live very comfortably - we live in a completely walkable neighborhood with amazing ethnic food options. My family lives in LA and I visit very often (I grew up there) and truly I always breathe a sigh of relief when back in Sacramento. The traffic is so much more manageable here. My commute is 10min door to door for my in-office days.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why the one of you with the offer in SoCal didn't accept, and the other double down on job search efforts in that area? The odds of you simultaneously being offered dream jobs in dream location seems low, no?

Op here. I think our feeling is that we need both our incomes for California to be a realistic possibility and there are no guarantees we will ever both get jobs in the same city.

For now we live in a LCOL area and we both make okayish money so for us to move we’d both have to get huge raises.

This really depends on where you are in California. Some of the posters in this thread are obviously insane. If you like SoCal, are you willing to live inland a bit? Then you can live on one income, depending on the income. You can’t do that in La Jolla obviously but there are a lot of nice places in SoCal.

Inland, like Wesr Covina, just 2 hours from the beach?

https://youtu.be/92538NJ0lbE?si=5cZ2D1kyLz9eCMQT

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why the one of you with the offer in SoCal didn't accept, and the other double down on job search efforts in that area? The odds of you simultaneously being offered dream jobs in dream location seems low, no?

Op here. I think our feeling is that we need both our incomes for California to be a realistic possibility and there are no guarantees we will ever both get jobs in the same city.

For now we live in a LCOL area and we both make okayish money so for us to move we’d both have to get huge raises.

This really depends on where you are in California. Some of the posters in this thread are obviously insane. If you like SoCal, are you willing to live inland a bit? Then you can live on one income, depending on the income. You can’t do that in La Jolla obviously but there are a lot of nice places in SoCal.

Inland, like Wesr Covina, just 2 hours from the beach?

https://youtu.be/92538NJ0lbE?si=5cZ2D1kyLz9eCMQT

Yes this YouTube link is exactly representative of life in California. Watch out, OP. You may start bursting into spontaneous song.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

Northern California is BIG. It’s not entirely made up of San Jose and SF. Of course beaches are warmer in the San Diego area. But there are many places in Northern California where people are normal.

Agreed. For Northern California I would look at the East Bay like San Ramon, or Sacramento suburbs.

San Ramon is like 4 hours to the beach, 5 hours to the mountains and hits 120F for like 1/2 the summer. Sacramento is closer to Yosemite which is nice, but not that close, and is hotter for even longer. Sacramento schools are meh. SR schools are okay.

I’m the pp who recommended those places, because I know people who live in both (with kids) and they like it a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

Northern California is BIG. It’s not entirely made up of San Jose and SF. Of course beaches are warmer in the San Diego area. But there are many places in Northern California where people are normal.

Agreed. For Northern California I would look at the East Bay like San Ramon, or Sacramento suburbs.

San Ramon is like 4 hours to the beach, 5 hours to the mountains and hits 120F for like 1/2 the summer. Sacramento is closer to Yosemite which is nice, but not that close, and is hotter for even longer. Sacramento schools are meh. SR schools are okay.

Holy crap so much misinformation here I don’t even know where to start. Bet this is written by an East Coast transplant who never stepped foot out of Silicon Valley

Dead of night drive SR to SC is 1.5 hrs. But when it’s beach season, the traffic is epic and hits around. 4 hours.

Same with Yosemite, 2.5 hrs dead of night but go at the good times it’s awful.

California is full and the infrastructure does not support the population.

I’ve bake in San Ramon in July, it’s awful.

I personally prefer the warm inland areas to the cool foggy coastal areas. It’s not like people normally travel to the mountains or beach every weekend. It’s more like a few times per year. Any nice place you can live in CA has traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

Northern California is BIG. It’s not entirely made up of San Jose and SF. Of course beaches are warmer in the San Diego area. But there are many places in Northern California where people are normal.

Agreed. For Northern California I would look at the East Bay like San Ramon, or Sacramento suburbs.

San Ramon is like 4 hours to the beach, 5 hours to the mountains and hits 120F for like 1/2 the summer. Sacramento is closer to Yosemite which is nice, but not that close, and is hotter for even longer. Sacramento schools are meh. SR schools are okay.

Holy crap so much misinformation here I don’t even know where to start. Bet this is written by an East Coast transplant who never stepped foot out of Silicon Valley

Dead of night drive SR to SC is 1.5 hrs. But when it’s beach season, the traffic is epic and hits around. 4 hours.

Same with Yosemite, 2.5 hrs dead of night but go at the good times it’s awful.

California is full and the infrastructure does not support the population.

I’ve bake in San Ramon in July, it’s awful.

I personally prefer the warm inland areas to the cool foggy coastal areas. It’s not like people normally travel to the mountains or beach every weekend. It’s more like a few times per year. Any nice place you can live in CA has traffic.

OP is moving to California largely because of the weather and natural beauty resources. If she is flying 2x week for work, she could just fly a few times a year to see the mountains and beach. She wants to live near the beach which requires a level up in her salary.