just can't relate to Potomac anymore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No school with average SAT scores of 1400 should be legally allowed to pretend they value "equity" whatever it even means - just say you value hierarchy and merit - as Sheryl Sandberg said, lean in! The hypocrisy is the worst part of all this stuff.

But aren’t those the scores on the way out? I mean, what’s the knock on a school that produces kids with “high-ish” SAT scores? Are kids with average or low scores some sort of protective class or vessels of unique perspective/experience such that they should receive admissions preferences?

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Some people that crow about DEI are stone cold racists and some people that push DEI are also stone racists. Smart black folks know that there is little to no point in sussing out who is and isn’t racist. The one and only question is whether this or that is a situation that can help me get to where I need to go.

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Anonymous wrote:Having been at two other schools with DEI - it's a hard thing to get right.

One school has done a great job and started over a decade ago, going slow, being thoughtful - training for teachers, tweaks in curriculum, broader sets of books in library, speakers, hiring. Not everyone buys in but it is something where much of the progress has been slowly woven into the fabric without taking over. It bugs me that there will always be "those parents" who will always see the hiring of a person of color as a DEI hire, though.

The other (more prominent) school comes up with big initiatives and actions that flame out and disappear. It all feels "for show". That school already had more diversity than the first. I don't know how parents/students feel about DEI at the school or these initiatives.

I feel like the first school has been more genuine and made more progress.

My child’s elementary teacher this year was a new hire who turned out to be abysmal and by far the worst teacher in elementary. It has done real harm to a class full of students including my child. We have no other explanation for this situation besides a DEI hire. True or not, this is the perception.

But this sort of thing happens with white teachers too....why blame it on their skin color. Why can't it just be a bad hire? Why do you need to equate it to DEI. We have had two horrible teachers for my kids (over many years) and one was a person of color and the other wasn't. I don't blame the POC bad teacher on DEI - she was just a really bad fit. And to be honest, the parents that complained and made it about race did nobody any favors - because the school (and me too) had to discount those opinions immediately. It's the tangible defaults/misteps that matter - so blaming things on DEI and not focusing on what criteria are used to evaluate a good hire or to evaluate current teachers helps nobody. Same with leadership positions. Of the few that fell short (not horrible but not inspiring) some were POC and others weren't. they all left the same way....with a note saying they chose to transition to something else.

This is why DEI is bad for everyone, even those it purports to help. With DEI, a bad hire who is a POC will automatically be considered a DEI hire. Any POC hired will have the label of being a DEI hire, whether that person was hired based on merit or skin color. Without DEI and no racial preference being given, a bad hire will just be a bad hire regardless of color. The time for DEI is over, it's divisive and unfair.

Soooo go back to hiring white people only?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Having been at two other schools with DEI - it's a hard thing to get right.

One school has done a great job and started over a decade ago, going slow, being thoughtful - training for teachers, tweaks in curriculum, broader sets of books in library, speakers, hiring. Not everyone buys in but it is something where much of the progress has been slowly woven into the fabric without taking over. It bugs me that there will always be "those parents" who will always see the hiring of a person of color as a DEI hire, though.

The other (more prominent) school comes up with big initiatives and actions that flame out and disappear. It all feels "for show". That school already had more diversity than the first. I don't know how parents/students feel about DEI at the school or these initiatives.

I feel like the first school has been more genuine and made more progress.

My child’s elementary teacher this year was a new hire who turned out to be abysmal and by far the worst teacher in elementary. It has done real harm to a class full of students including my child. We have no other explanation for this situation besides a DEI hire. True or not, this is the perception.

But this sort of thing happens with white teachers too....why blame it on their skin color. Why can't it just be a bad hire? Why do you need to equate it to DEI. We have had two horrible teachers for my kids (over many years) and one was a person of color and the other wasn't. I don't blame the POC bad teacher on DEI - she was just a really bad fit. And to be honest, the parents that complained and made it about race did nobody any favors - because the school (and me too) had to discount those opinions immediately. It's the tangible defaults/misteps that matter - so blaming things on DEI and not focusing on what criteria are used to evaluate a good hire or to evaluate current teachers helps nobody. Same with leadership positions. Of the few that fell short (not horrible but not inspiring) some were POC and others weren't. they all left the same way....with a note saying they chose to transition to something else.

This is why DEI is bad for everyone, even those it purports to help. With DEI, a bad hire who is a POC will automatically be considered a DEI hire. Any POC hired will have the label of being a DEI hire, whether that person was hired based on merit or skin color. Without DEI and no racial preference being given, a bad hire will just be a bad hire regardless of color. The time for DEI is over, it's divisive and unfair.

Soooo go back to hiring white people only?

Businesses want to hire the best people without having to fulfill arbitrary DEI quotas.

[Anonymous]

DEI doa

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having been at two other schools with DEI - it's a hard thing to get right.

One school has done a great job and started over a decade ago, going slow, being thoughtful - training for teachers, tweaks in curriculum, broader sets of books in library, speakers, hiring. Not everyone buys in but it is something where much of the progress has been slowly woven into the fabric without taking over. It bugs me that there will always be "those parents" who will always see the hiring of a person of color as a DEI hire, though.

The other (more prominent) school comes up with big initiatives and actions that flame out and disappear. It all feels "for show". That school already had more diversity than the first. I don't know how parents/students feel about DEI at the school or these initiatives.

I feel like the first school has been more genuine and made more progress.

My child’s elementary teacher this year was a new hire who turned out to be abysmal and by far the worst teacher in elementary. It has done real harm to a class full of students including my child. We have no other explanation for this situation besides a DEI hire. True or not, this is the perception.

But this sort of thing happens with white teachers too....why blame it on their skin color. Why can't it just be a bad hire? Why do you need to equate it to DEI. We have had two horrible teachers for my kids (over many years) and one was a person of color and the other wasn't. I don't blame the POC bad teacher on DEI - she was just a really bad fit. And to be honest, the parents that complained and made it about race did nobody any favors - because the school (and me too) had to discount those opinions immediately. It's the tangible defaults/misteps that matter - so blaming things on DEI and not focusing on what criteria are used to evaluate a good hire or to evaluate current teachers helps nobody. Same with leadership positions. Of the few that fell short (not horrible but not inspiring) some were POC and others weren't. they all left the same way....with a note saying they chose to transition to something else.

This is why DEI is bad for everyone, even those it purports to help. With DEI, a bad hire who is a POC will automatically be considered a DEI hire. Any POC hired will have the label of being a DEI hire, whether that person was hired based on merit or skin color. Without DEI and no racial preference being given, a bad hire will just be a bad hire regardless of color. The time for DEI is over, it's divisive and unfair.

Soooo go back to hiring white people only?

Alright, MAGA, just crawl back down your hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DEI doa

It's 1877 all over again! Thank god where are done with that experiment!

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It's 1877 all over again! Thank god where are done with that experiment!

Being forced to hire employees based on race is a result of DEI and yes it is appalling.

[Anonymous]

To those complaining about the DEI overload, has anyone actually said anything to their schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people that crow about DEI are stone cold racists and some people that push DEI are also stone racists. Smart black folks know that there is little to no point in sussing out who is and isn’t racist. The one and only question is whether this or that is a situation that can help me get to where I need to go.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those complaining about the DEI overload, has anyone actually said anything to their schools?

No haven’t said anything. NP here- I’m not anti dei at all and definitely not maga or “colorblind.” I just think the overwhelming emphasis is taking away from other important aspects of schooling and also I think it’s paradoxically making some kids more cynical and less engaged with social justice.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having been at two other schools with DEI - it's a hard thing to get right.

One school has done a great job and started over a decade ago, going slow, being thoughtful - training for teachers, tweaks in curriculum, broader sets of books in library, speakers, hiring. Not everyone buys in but it is something where much of the progress has been slowly woven into the fabric without taking over. It bugs me that there will always be "those parents" who will always see the hiring of a person of color as a DEI hire, though.

The other (more prominent) school comes up with big initiatives and actions that flame out and disappear. It all feels "for show". That school already had more diversity than the first. I don't know how parents/students feel about DEI at the school or these initiatives.

I feel like the first school has been more genuine and made more progress.

My child’s elementary teacher this year was a new hire who turned out to be abysmal and by far the worst teacher in elementary. It has done real harm to a class full of students including my child. We have no other explanation for this situation besides a DEI hire. True or not, this is the perception.

But this sort of thing happens with white teachers too....why blame it on their skin color. Why can't it just be a bad hire? Why do you need to equate it to DEI. We have had two horrible teachers for my kids (over many years) and one was a person of color and the other wasn't. I don't blame the POC bad teacher on DEI - she was just a really bad fit. And to be honest, the parents that complained and made it about race did nobody any favors - because the school (and me too) had to discount those opinions immediately. It's the tangible defaults/misteps that matter - so blaming things on DEI and not focusing on what criteria are used to evaluate a good hire or to evaluate current teachers helps nobody. Same with leadership positions. Of the few that fell short (not horrible but not inspiring) some were POC and others weren't. they all left the same way....with a note saying they chose to transition to something else.

This is why DEI is bad for everyone, even those it purports to help. With DEI, a bad hire who is a POC will automatically be considered a DEI hire. Any POC hired will have the label of being a DEI hire, whether that person was hired based on merit or skin color. Without DEI and no racial preference being given, a bad hire will just be a bad hire regardless of color. The time for DEI is over, it's divisive and unfair.

Soooo go back to hiring white people only?

No. DIE is too confusing. We need to address the systemic white supremacy and figure how we can counteract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having been at two other schools with DEI - it's a hard thing to get right.

One school has done a great job and started over a decade ago, going slow, being thoughtful - training for teachers, tweaks in curriculum, broader sets of books in library, speakers, hiring. Not everyone buys in but it is something where much of the progress has been slowly woven into the fabric without taking over. It bugs me that there will always be "those parents" who will always see the hiring of a person of color as a DEI hire, though.

The other (more prominent) school comes up with big initiatives and actions that flame out and disappear. It all feels "for show". That school already had more diversity than the first. I don't know how parents/students feel about DEI at the school or these initiatives.

I feel like the first school has been more genuine and made more progress.

My child’s elementary teacher this year was a new hire who turned out to be abysmal and by far the worst teacher in elementary. It has done real harm to a class full of students including my child. We have no other explanation for this situation besides a DEI hire. True or not, this is the perception.

But this sort of thing happens with white teachers too....why blame it on their skin color. Why can't it just be a bad hire? Why do you need to equate it to DEI. We have had two horrible teachers for my kids (over many years) and one was a person of color and the other wasn't. I don't blame the POC bad teacher on DEI - she was just a really bad fit. And to be honest, the parents that complained and made it about race did nobody any favors - because the school (and me too) had to discount those opinions immediately. It's the tangible defaults/misteps that matter - so blaming things on DEI and not focusing on what criteria are used to evaluate a good hire or to evaluate current teachers helps nobody. Same with leadership positions. Of the few that fell short (not horrible but not inspiring) some were POC and others weren't. they all left the same way....with a note saying they chose to transition to something else.

This is why DEI is bad for everyone, even those it purports to help. With DEI, a bad hire who is a POC will automatically be considered a DEI hire. Any POC hired will have the label of being a DEI hire, whether that person was hired based on merit or skin color. Without DEI and no racial preference being given, a bad hire will just be a bad hire regardless of color. The time for DEI is over, it's divisive and unfair.

Soooo go back to hiring white people only?

No. DIE is too confusing. We need to address the systemic white supremacy and figure how we can counteract.

Sounds like stalling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having been at two other schools with DEI - it's a hard thing to get right.

One school has done a great job and started over a decade ago, going slow, being thoughtful - training for teachers, tweaks in curriculum, broader sets of books in library, speakers, hiring. Not everyone buys in but it is something where much of the progress has been slowly woven into the fabric without taking over. It bugs me that there will always be "those parents" who will always see the hiring of a person of color as a DEI hire, though.

The other (more prominent) school comes up with big initiatives and actions that flame out and disappear. It all feels "for show". That school already had more diversity than the first. I don't know how parents/students feel about DEI at the school or these initiatives.

I feel like the first school has been more genuine and made more progress.

My child’s elementary teacher this year was a new hire who turned out to be abysmal and by far the worst teacher in elementary. It has done real harm to a class full of students including my child. We have no other explanation for this situation besides a DEI hire. True or not, this is the perception.

You think the teacher is bad because she’s black? That’s a racist perception.

Potomac clearly needs more DEI with parents like this.