UVA vs Georgetown for pre-med track

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Anonymous wrote:Your data is irrelevant. Mine is based on having an actual student at Georgetown now. Professors are limited in the number of As they can confer. Full stop.

It isn't binding. Many schools have unenforced guidance.

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Anonymous wrote:Your data is irrelevant. Mine is based on having an actual student at Georgetown now. Professors are limited in the number of As they can confer. Full stop.

It isn't binding. Many schools have unenforced guidance.

It is a bit dated now, but there was an informative article on this.

https://georgetownvoice.com/2008/09/11/high-marks/

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If you are worried about GPA, going to a more collaborative school without rigid grade limitations is a smart move. Medical school admissions are heavily weighted towards GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:If there's any chance your daughter will need to use the University health insurance, e.g., if she stays for med school or a master's program, be aware that it's backasswards Catholic insurance when it comes to women's reproductive health. I was married and in law school and couldn't get birth control or an IUD through my insurance unless it was for a health purpose other than preventing pregnancy. I'd probably have my daughter choose UVA on that basis, as well as to avoid her being trained in a Catholic hospital where they don't treat women as having reproductive rights.

I'd be shocked if this was GU or within the last 20 years. (Indiana/ND - I might believe)

I checked the GU website before posting and this is still their policy. Women do not have the right to make decisions about their own health or body if on Georgetown insurance or if treated at Georgetown hospitals.

There is plenty of healthcare within close distance to Georgetown. Most kids are on their parents' insurance and if an undergrad female needed insurance, they could forgo GU as their source and obtain a cheap policy through the Marketplace. I didn't get reproductive care through my university when I was in college?

Perhaps you should have read my post before responding? I addressed most of this.

When I was in college lots of girls ended up getting birth control from the student health center, especially if they were from elsewhere and didn't have a local doctor. It was also the first stop for a suspected pregnancy.

And at my college they went to planned parenthood....so...

Also at my graduate school in a different city....

Perhaps you're okay supporting an institution that treats women as unable to make their own decisions about their bodies, but I'm not.

But OP and her daughter ARE willing to consider it...so to each their own. Sounds to me like her daughter is empowered enough to seek the care she'll need - just like I was and as are most students at Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:If there's any chance your daughter will need to use the University health insurance, e.g., if she stays for med school or a master's program, be aware that it's backasswards Catholic insurance when it comes to women's reproductive health. I was married and in law school and couldn't get birth control or an IUD through my insurance unless it was for a health purpose other than preventing pregnancy. I'd probably have my daughter choose UVA on that basis, as well as to avoid her being trained in a Catholic hospital where they don't treat women as having reproductive rights.

I'd be shocked if this was GU or within the last 20 years. (Indiana/ND - I might believe)

I checked the GU website before posting and this is still their policy. Women do not have the right to make decisions about their own health or body if on Georgetown insurance or if treated at Georgetown hospitals.

There is plenty of healthcare within close distance to Georgetown. Most kids are on their parents' insurance and if an undergrad female needed insurance, they could forgo GU as their source and obtain a cheap policy through the Marketplace. I didn't get reproductive care through my university when I was in college?

Perhaps you should have read my post before responding? I addressed most of this.

When I was in college lots of girls ended up getting birth control from the student health center, especially if they were from elsewhere and didn't have a local doctor. It was also the first stop for a suspected pregnancy.

And at my college they went to planned parenthood....so...

Also at my graduate school in a different city....

Perhaps you're okay supporting an institution that treats women as unable to make their own decisions about their bodies, but I'm not.

But OP and her daughter ARE willing to consider it...so to each their own. Sounds to me like her daughter is empowered enough to seek the care she'll need - just like I was and as are most students at Georgetown.

Nothing on this thread shows that OP was even aware of this policy. It's a factor that the daughter will have to consider.

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Something I would also consider is how classes are ranked/scaled. When I toured Georgetown my tour guide said that most of her classes were not on a curve so this might help students get a higher grade and almost every research student is able to get published on the paper. But uva is known for being super competitive for pre med. it depends on the experience that your daughter wants.

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Since Georgetown has the med school early admit program, for us this would not have been a question. Kid ultimately preferred a WASP option known for great med school outcomes, but Georgetown was ranked in her top 3. Not sure why anyone would pick UVA instead if OOS, unless the kid really loved it.

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Anonymous wrote:Something I would also consider is how classes are ranked/scaled. When I toured Georgetown my tour guide said that most of her classes were not on a curve so this might help students get a higher grade and almost every research student is able to get published on the paper. But uva is known for being super competitive for pre med. it depends on the experience that your daughter wants.

Something I would also consider: OP's kid is already in college. You bumped a year-old thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Virginian so daughter would pay out of tuition at UVA and our family doesn’t qualify for any financial aid.

She really wants to do pre-med. which school would you recommend? I’d like to spend less on undergrad to save more for medical school but also want to make sure my daughter gets good undergrad experience/research opportunities.

Didn’t realize college selection process was this stressful!

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience!

These schools are not really comparable when Virginia is oos. They are similar cost and Georgetown is far more prestigious. To the extent UVA has prestige, it is as an in-state school. The oos yield at UVA is terrible for this reason: oos students vote with their feet. Don’t make the mistake that you are choosing “equal” options when what makes them equal (Virginia in-state tuition) does not apply to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. Did college tour for both. We did like feel of Georgetown more but need more than just the feel or ‘pretty campus’ to justify the cost. My daughter wants to decide based on pre med academics and acceptance rate to medical school, etc.

Thanks!

Maybe ask friends who go to both what they think. I think anywhere the pre-med track will be a challenge and likely filled with type A (so maybe my Type A go-getters at Georgetown would be same at UVA pre-med.....although Georgetown has those even outside of pre-med).

Uh, UVA has type A go-getters outside of pre-med, too. Good grief.

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Anonymous wrote:Something I would also consider is how classes are ranked/scaled. When I toured Georgetown my tour guide said that most of her classes were not on a curve so this might help students get a higher grade and almost every research student is able to get published on the paper. But uva is known for being super competitive for pre med. it depends on the experience that your daughter wants.

Something I would also consider: OP's kid is already in college. You bumped a year-old thread.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Virginian so daughter would pay out of tuition at UVA and our family doesn’t qualify for any financial aid.

She really wants to do pre-med. which school would you recommend? I’d like to spend less on undergrad to save more for medical school but also want to make sure my daughter gets good undergrad experience/research opportunities.

Didn’t realize college selection process was this stressful!

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience!

These schools are not really comparable when Virginia is oos. They are similar cost and Georgetown is far more prestigious. To the extent UVA has prestige, it is as an in-state school. The oos yield at UVA is terrible for this reason: oos students vote with their feet. Don’t make the mistake that you are choosing “equal” options when what makes them equal (Virginia in-state tuition) does not apply to you.

Again, you are wrong and can't prove that. The SCHEV you cited to on another thread was a yield chart for ALL public schools in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Virginian so daughter would pay out of tuition at UVA and our family doesn’t qualify for any financial aid.

She really wants to do pre-med. which school would you recommend? I’d like to spend less on undergrad to save more for medical school but also want to make sure my daughter gets good undergrad experience/research opportunities.

Didn’t realize college selection process was this stressful!

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience!

These schools are not really comparable when Virginia is oos. They are similar cost and Georgetown is far more prestigious. To the extent UVA has prestige, it is as an in-state school. The oos yield at UVA is terrible for this reason: oos students vote with their feet. Don’t make the mistake that you are choosing “equal” options when what makes them equal (Virginia in-state tuition) does not apply to you.

Again, you are wrong and can't prove that. The SCHEV you cited to on another thread was a yield chart for ALL public schools in VA.

NP. To be clear, for UVA specifically (not all publics), in-state yield is 55%, out-of-state yield is 16%, and overall yield is 30%, fall 2023 per https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B8_Report_new.ASP

The PP you were responding to specified "oos yield," which is out of state yield (16.3% for UVA)

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Anonymous wrote:Something I would also consider is how classes are ranked/scaled. When I toured Georgetown my tour guide said that most of her classes were not on a curve so this might help students get a higher grade and almost every research student is able to get published on the paper. But uva is known for being super competitive for pre med. it depends on the experience that your daughter wants.

Something I would also consider: OP's kid is already in college. You bumped a year-old thread.

Ugh, not again. There have been so many threads from last year bumped over the past few days.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Virginian so daughter would pay out of tuition at UVA and our family doesn’t qualify for any financial aid.

She really wants to do pre-med. which school would you recommend? I’d like to spend less on undergrad to save more for medical school but also want to make sure my daughter gets good undergrad experience/research opportunities.

Didn’t realize college selection process was this stressful!

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience!

These schools are not really comparable when Virginia is oos. They are similar cost and Georgetown is far more prestigious. To the extent UVA has prestige, it is as an in-state school. The oos yield at UVA is terrible for this reason: oos students vote with their feet. Don’t make the mistake that you are choosing “equal” options when what makes them equal (Virginia in-state tuition) does not apply to you.

Nay nay. Georgetown and UVA are both ranked 24 by USNWR. Georgetown is 94k a year and UVA is $40k instate. OOS is $80, which still means $60k more than UVA.