“DO NOT DISTURB TENANTS”…what’s up with this listing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell.

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How do you not know the room count?

Tenant knocked down or put up walls. Or the owner died/got dementia and nobody else has been in the house but the uncooperative tenant.

Googled the owners and they’re in their 40s so I doubt it’s dementia. Why would anyone give an uncooperative tenant a two year lease? The owners must have felt they were decent tenants or rented through a management company and unaware of the current condition of the house.

I actually think it might be the owners living there, not tenants. In SDAT the owners’ mailing address is the same as the property address. The usual giveaway for a rental is the owners will have a different mailing address listed on the tax records than the property address.

I looked the owners up in case search. Looks like this is a foreclosure as previous PPs suspected. Also looks like they had a brush with foreclosure in 2014? Not sure if I’m interpreting that correctly though.

I guess the bank wants their money now, but was willing to let the owners (now tenants) stay until 2025? Is this typical?

Maybe the owners-now-tenants are elderly or in home hospice and the bank was unusually compassionate?

Owners are in their 40s, so perhaps it is a hospice situation? Banks are not usually the compassionate type, though!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell.

+1

How do you not know the room count?

Tenant knocked down or put up walls. Or the owner died/got dementia and nobody else has been in the house but the uncooperative tenant.

Googled the owners and they’re in their 40s so I doubt it’s dementia. Why would anyone give an uncooperative tenant a two year lease? The owners must have felt they were decent tenants or rented through a management company and unaware of the current condition of the house.

I actually think it might be the owners living there, not tenants. In SDAT the owners’ mailing address is the same as the property address. The usual giveaway for a rental is the owners will have a different mailing address listed on the tax records than the property address.

I looked the owners up in case search. Looks like this is a foreclosure as previous PPs suspected. Also looks like they had a brush with foreclosure in 2014? Not sure if I’m interpreting that correctly though.

I guess the bank wants their money now, but was willing to let the owners (now tenants) stay until 2025? Is this typical?

Maybe one or both have a terminal health diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell.

+1

How do you not know the room count?

Tenant knocked down or put up walls. Or the owner died/got dementia and nobody else has been in the house but the uncooperative tenant.

Googled the owners and they’re in their 40s so I doubt it’s dementia. Why would anyone give an uncooperative tenant a two year lease? The owners must have felt they were decent tenants or rented through a management company and unaware of the current condition of the house.

I actually think it might be the owners living there, not tenants. In SDAT the owners’ mailing address is the same as the property address. The usual giveaway for a rental is the owners will have a different mailing address listed on the tax records than the property address.

I looked the owners up in case search. Looks like this is a foreclosure as previous PPs suspected. Also looks like they had a brush with foreclosure in 2014? Not sure if I’m interpreting that correctly though.

I guess the bank wants their money now, but was willing to let the owners (now tenants) stay until 2025? Is this typical?

Maybe the owners-now-tenants are elderly or in home hospice and the bank was unusually compassionate?

Owners are in their 40s, so perhaps it is a hospice situation? Banks are not usually the compassionate type, though!

PP here. Could be. Medicare pays for home hospice when the prognosis is 6 months or less. My mom outlived her hospice prognosis by a few months, so there's that. Then the estate would need a few months to get ducks in a row. Obviously, if it's already sold, the estate wouldn't need to paint or make repairs. But they might need time to do probate (if it's not in a trust like my mom's was, which seems unlikely here, also not sure how probate works if the bank owns the place). The heirs would also need time to move any sentimental stuff out, although I'm betting they'll leave lots of trash and valueless stuff behind. So a year seems reasonable.

Just reminiscing here. 20 years ago when we were looking for a house, we visited one that still had the hospital bed and an IV drip tree in a first floor room. I'm not a big fan of staging, but that felt like the heirs had moved the corpse out the day before.

Although the owners/tenants could just be psychos, there's always that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell.

+1

How do you not know the room count?

Tenant knocked down or put up walls. Or the owner died/got dementia and nobody else has been in the house but the uncooperative tenant.

Googled the owners and they’re in their 40s so I doubt it’s dementia. Why would anyone give an uncooperative tenant a two year lease? The owners must have felt they were decent tenants or rented through a management company and unaware of the current condition of the house.

I actually think it might be the owners living there, not tenants. In SDAT the owners’ mailing address is the same as the property address. The usual giveaway for a rental is the owners will have a different mailing address listed on the tax records than the property address.

I looked the owners up in case search. Looks like this is a foreclosure as previous PPs suspected. Also looks like they had a brush with foreclosure in 2014? Not sure if I’m interpreting that correctly though.

I guess the bank wants their money now, but was willing to let the owners (now tenants) stay until 2025? Is this typical?

Maybe the owners-now-tenants are elderly or in home hospice and the bank was unusually compassionate?

Owners are in their 40s, so perhaps it is a hospice situation? Banks are not usually the compassionate type, though!

PP here. Could be. Medicare pays for home hospice when the prognosis is 6 months or less. My mom outlived her hospice prognosis by a few months, so there's that. Then the estate would need a few months to get ducks in a row. Obviously, if it's already sold, the estate wouldn't need to paint or make repairs. But they might need time to do probate (if it's not in a trust like my mom's was, which seems unlikely here, also not sure how probate works if the bank owns the place). The heirs would also need time to move any sentimental stuff out, although I'm betting they'll leave lots of trash and valueless stuff behind. So a year seems reasonable.

Just reminiscing here. 20 years ago when we were looking for a house, we visited one that still had the hospital bed and an IV drip tree in a first floor room. I'm not a big fan of staging, but that felt like the heirs had moved the corpse out the day before.

Although the owners/tenants could just be psychos, there's always that.

PS. Also I'm probably overthinking this. The owners-tenants might just be criminally insane.

[Anonymous]

> Anyone know what a "technology fee" is??

A way for really low-quality agencies to increase their revenue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:> Anyone know what a "technology fee" is??

A way for really low-quality agencies to increase their revenue.

Yes, and this agency is certainly low quality judging by the Google reviews:

“My family and I reached out several times over the course of multiple weeks via their website, third party websites, and their phones. Several hundred dollars of application fees later, we have yet to receive any correspondence. This realtor agency is a scam. Do not waste your time.”

“This company has failed to respond to any requests or questions I have had. I would not trust them with my time, nor money.”

“Faith is rude and unethical when it comes to working with her as an agent, and like others have said, has no manners and lacks communication skills.”

“Faith has no people skills when it comes to working with offers with her. No I'm sorry... It's "Rejected!"”

“Faith is rude and has no manner....i have not seen more unprofessional real estste company in my life...”

[Anonymous]

Gonna guess that no legit agent wanted to take on this sale

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now I kind of want to knock on the door and see what the big deal is.

DO NOT DISTURB TENANTS. DO NOT DISTURB TENANTS. DO NOT DISTURB TENANTS.

[Anonymous]

Well the owners don't have a license to operate this home as a rental, so that's a problem for them. Someone could just report them to the county for starters.

County records show they are up to date on property taxes so that's a positive I guess.

Court Judiciary records only show one case where one of the owners was the plaintiff many years ago.

My guess is there is a mental health issue going on with whomever is living in this house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the owners don't have a license to operate this home as a rental, so that's a problem for them. Someone could just report them to the county for starters.

County records show they are up to date on property taxes so that's a positive I guess.

Court Judiciary records only show one case where one of the owners was the plaintiff many years ago.

My guess is there is a mental health issue going on with whomever is living in this house.

Or hospice.

If it's in foreclosure, medical/mental issues would explain a lack of income.

[Anonymous]

So very many air conditioners ! Why? The neighbors are not that hot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the owners don't have a license to operate this home as a rental, so that's a problem for them. Someone could just report them to the county for starters.

County records show they are up to date on property taxes so that's a positive I guess.

Court Judiciary records only show one case where one of the owners was the plaintiff many years ago.

My guess is there is a mental health issue going on with whomever is living in this house.

Or hospice.

If it's in foreclosure, medical/mental issues would explain a lack of income.

Public records do not indicate foreclosure or even preforeclosure. not sure why everyone keeps saying "hospice", what about this house indicates that? All the window units make me wonder if this is a group house?

[Anonymous]

…and it’s pending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:> Anyone know what a "technology fee" is??

A way for really low-quality agencies to increase their revenue.

The technology fee is charged by and paid to the selling bank, not the agency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gonna guess that no legit agent wanted to take on this sale

Foreclosing banks have a few agencies on call that specialize in this work, I think she may be one of them. Not a lot of these available now so hard to tell in this market.