ED Bates Results?

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Anonymous wrote:I would be more interested in hearing one example of a kid with strong academics who is full pay and got rejected. I doubt it exists.

I haven’t seen it in ED, but a few kids I know from our private with the high stats got rejected in RD last year. Bates is not a safety.

Bates is a safety for ED 1 or ED 2.

Over the past few years, Bates has had to deal with a lot of issues regarding racism, unexpected faculty departures, on-campus sexual assaults by a fellow student, and recently the entire debate team resigned in protest. Too much drama.

Is all this true? Junior parent here, and always just viewed Bates as the place for nice kids who couldn't get into the better NESCAC schools (with Trinity, at least until recently, getting the ones who were more arrogant than nice). But this list of problems is a surprise.

DC currently at Bates and have not heard about any of these issues. Somebody here has an issue with Bates. Not sure why. Very nice student body and great community.

Sure--we believe you.

Bates College is a mess. all of the issues are true & easily researched.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be more interested in hearing one example of a kid with strong academics who is full pay and got rejected. I doubt it exists.

I haven’t seen it in ED, but a few kids I know from our private with the high stats got rejected in RD last year. Bates is not a safety.

Bates is a safety for ED 1 or ED 2.

Over the past few years, Bates has had to deal with a lot of issues regarding racism, unexpected faculty departures, on-campus sexual assaults by a fellow student, and recently the entire debate team resigned in protest. Too much drama.

Is all this true? Junior parent here, and always just viewed Bates as the place for nice kids who couldn't get into the better NESCAC schools (with Trinity, at least until recently, getting the ones who were more arrogant than nice). But this list of problems is a surprise.

DC currently at Bates and have not heard about any of these issues. Somebody here has an issue with Bates. Not sure why. Very nice student body and great community.

Sure--we believe you.

Bates College is a mess. all of the issues are true & easily researched.

Just because your child didn’t get in doesn’t mean you should badmouth Bates. You can’t rely on old articles to tell you what a college is like. Places change. New President is amazing. Have you actually visited or know people there?

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Anonymous wrote:I would be more interested in hearing one example of a kid with strong academics who is full pay and got rejected. I doubt it exists.

I haven’t seen it in ED, but a few kids I know from our private with the high stats got rejected in RD last year. Bates is not a safety.

Bates is a safety for ED 1 or ED 2.

Over the past few years, Bates has had to deal with a lot of issues regarding racism, unexpected faculty departures, on-campus sexual assaults by a fellow student, and recently the entire debate team resigned in protest. Too much drama.

Is all this true? Junior parent here, and always just viewed Bates as the place for nice kids who couldn't get into the better NESCAC schools (with Trinity, at least until recently, getting the ones who were more arrogant than nice). But this list of problems is a surprise.

DC currently at Bates and have not heard about any of these issues. Somebody here has an issue with Bates. Not sure why. Very nice student body and great community.

Sure--we believe you.

Bates College is a mess. all of the issues are true & easily researched.

Just because your child didn’t get in doesn’t mean you should badmouth Bates. You can’t rely on old articles to tell you what a college is like. Places change. New President is amazing. Have you actually visited or know people there?

All of the problems are easily verified through a quick google search.

"Old articles" ??? All occurred within the past few years. About a month ago, the entire debate team quit in protest over a change in policy & leadership. Dates for the rest are easily researched through Google.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be more interested in hearing one example of a kid with strong academics who is full pay and got rejected. I doubt it exists.

I haven’t seen it in ED, but a few kids I know from our private with the high stats got rejected in RD last year. Bates is not a safety.

Bates is a safety for ED 1 or ED 2.

Over the past few years, Bates has had to deal with a lot of issues regarding racism, unexpected faculty departures, on-campus sexual assaults by a fellow student, and recently the entire debate team resigned in protest. Too much drama.

Is all this true? Junior parent here, and always just viewed Bates as the place for nice kids who couldn't get into the better NESCAC schools (with Trinity, at least until recently, getting the ones who were more arrogant than nice). But this list of problems is a surprise.

DC currently at Bates and have not heard about any of these issues. Somebody here has an issue with Bates. Not sure why. Very nice student body and great community.

Sure--we believe you.

Bates College is a mess. all of the issues are true & easily researched.

Just because your child didn’t get in doesn’t mean you should badmouth Bates. You can’t rely on old articles to tell you what a college is like. Places change. New President is amazing. Have you actually visited or know people there?

Love Garry Jenkins. My daughter and I visited on a Saturday afternoon when there were no tours available. We ran into him when we were wandering and he introduced himself and talked to my daughter at length. He was so kind that it was hard to leave with anything but a favorable impression of the school.

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DC is considering Bates and I found these recent articles from this semester

https://thebatesstudent.com/25487/news/19-members-of-brooks-quimby-debate-council-collectively-resign-in-open-letter/

https://thebatesstudent.com/25656/news/breaking-news-student-facing-four-years-of-probation-for-use-of-a-nerf-gun-wins-conduct-hearing/

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Anonymous wrote:I would be more interested in hearing one example of a kid with strong academics who is full pay and got rejected. I doubt it exists.

I haven’t seen it in ED, but a few kids I know from our private with the high stats got rejected in RD last year. Bates is not a safety.

It's much harder to get in RD than ED. Don't they fill half their class - or close to half - during the ED rounds?

Bates filled **81%** of their class with ED last year. It’s such a ridiculous stat that our head of college guidance couldn’t help but giggle in his presentation. So yeah, not a safety in RD for anyone.

I thought that was a few years ago and they had since changed their approach. I imagine it’s still well north of 50% but I thought they realized that the 80% discourages applications - and no school wants that. I think 2022 was about 60%. I think Tulane was similarly backing off this approach a little but then Middlebury went all in.

You're right PP, the 81% number is wrong or from a different year. I just looked at the most recent Common Data Set info (22-23) and the proportion seems to be around 60% of Bates students were admitted via ED - 314 admitted via ED for an entering class that totalled 518. By comparison Middlebury accepted 439 students via ED and had a total entering class of 639 - so about 68%. Bowdoin was lower, about 52% of the enrolled first-years were admitted via ED (267 out of 508.) I can't find a CDS for Colby. But I wonder if there are any small LACs that *don't* rely heavily on ED to fill their entering class?

40-45% seems to be the floor.

Which makes sense given the percentage of recruited athletes at these small schools.

I think there are a lot more walk ons at some of these schools versus true recruits. Maybe half the athletes are truly recruits.

Definitely not the case. Their athletes are recruited early in the fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bates' location stinks. Most of the econ profs--including the dept. head--departed without much notice. Lots of racial issues. Crappy weather. Need aware admissions. Very small enrollment.

Positives are a decent liberal arts location & the kids are nice.

So which is it: “location stinks” or offers a “decent liberal arts location”?

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Anonymous wrote:People who think it's impossible for high stats kids to get deferred or rejected at schools that are outside the Top 10 are really clueless. Read the Selingo book - small schools in particular are focused on building a class which means as the PP has now tried to explain about 10 times, they might reject a highly qualified applicant because they already have found their tuba players or their Nevada residents or whatever box the applicant happens to check. And also, yield protection.

This is so true. There are too many high stat FP kids out there though some of us don’t want to believe it. FP kids may have slightly better shot at admission but not as much as you think. Most of the kids who likes SLAC are from money. A freshman class size range from 450-750 in these schools. They are small.

Finally someone said it: SLACs draw kids with money. The same families that prefer small, private schools often prefer small liberal arts colleges. This is something a lot of middle class parents who badmouth SLACs (because they’ve never heard of them) don’t seem to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid was waitlisted. 3.98 GPA (unweighted) and 1570 sat, top 1% of his class. I was surprised they waitlisted a high qualified student.

Guessing your kid applied RD and was waitlisted to protect yield…

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was waitlisted. 3.98 GPA (unweighted) and 1570 sat, top 1% of his class. I was surprised they waitlisted a high qualified student.

Guessing your kid applied RD and was waitlisted to protect yield…

Mine applied RD and got in with a 4.0UW and 1550/35. But she showed interest, including a visit.