Sweden returns to using textbooks

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Anonymous wrote:Singapore still uses paper textbooks and lots of paper worksheets. Teaching style there is very traditional. Their PISA scores are far far higher than the US and have been for many years.

I don’t believe this is true. Singapore is a global leader in applied technology and are investing in it for schools.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-education-ministry-technology-learning-spaces-industry-partnerships-21cc-framework-3790921

My niece goes to high school in Cupertino - home of Apple in the Silicon Valley - and they use textbooks.

My niece goes to school in Florida. They also use textbooks that teach about states rights and seem to white wash history.

Are they actually omitting things or are they just not teaching CRT like you want them to?

Teaching children the Civil War was about “states rights” is omitting some things, yes.

CRT has never been taught in K-16 schools so not sure why you interjected with thar. Weird.

Cut! The line is "cRt iS OnLy tAuGhT iN LaW sChOoL." Lol. Seriously though, even NPR admitted that CRT is being taught 8n K-12 schools when the AA AP syllabus was shown to be packed with CRT scholars. NPR pivoted and said it was good that it was being taught. That aside, any school teaching that systemic racism and white privilege are real and that equity is the solution are teaching CRT.

Whatever are you prattling on about? News organizations don’t “admit” things. CRT is not taught in K-16, the end. You lead an active fantasy life, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Test scores are way down since they got rid of books and text books.

That is the real bottom line. Brining textbooks back will help the students actually learn the material, and as a by product, also will raise test scores (SOLs as well as other more basic tests like reading ability and math ability).

I think textbooks were removed for equity. It's very difficult for parents to help their kids study when all they have are a few photocopies and a YouTube video. Because poor parents aren't helping their kids anyway, not having textbooks helps close the achievement gap by hindering everyone else.

Lol. Whoever typed this is clinically insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Singapore still uses paper textbooks and lots of paper worksheets. Teaching style there is very traditional. Their PISA scores are far far higher than the US and have been for many years.

I don’t believe this is true. Singapore is a global leader in applied technology and are investing in it for schools.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-education-ministry-technology-learning-spaces-industry-partnerships-21cc-framework-3790921

My niece goes to high school in Cupertino - home of Apple in the Silicon Valley - and they use textbooks.

My niece goes to school in Florida. They also use textbooks that teach about states rights and seem to white wash history.

Knowing the curricula that is available, I highly doubt this. Please find us some quotes from her book and start a new thread, so that we can discuss. Otherwise, this is a typical liberal bash on the south.

My son attended 3rd grade in SC. Let’s just say that the textbook chapters about the civil war were incomplete. We had to supplement heavily that year.

There are TX and SC versions of history textbooks. TX tends to drive more content because it is a bigger market. We didn’t have textbooks in Fairfax to compare against.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Singapore still uses paper textbooks and lots of paper worksheets. Teaching style there is very traditional. Their PISA scores are far far higher than the US and have been for many years.

I don’t believe this is true. Singapore is a global leader in applied technology and are investing in it for schools.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-education-ministry-technology-learning-spaces-industry-partnerships-21cc-framework-3790921

My niece goes to high school in Cupertino - home of Apple in the Silicon Valley - and they use textbooks.

My niece goes to school in Florida. They also use textbooks that teach about states rights and seem to white wash history.

Are they actually omitting things or are they just not teaching CRT like you want them to?

Teaching children the Civil War was about “states rights” is omitting some things, yes.

CRT has never been taught in K-16 schools so not sure why you interjected with thar. Weird.

Cut! The line is "cRt iS OnLy tAuGhT iN LaW sChOoL." Lol. Seriously though, even NPR admitted that CRT is being taught 8n K-12 schools when the AA AP syllabus was shown to be packed with CRT scholars. NPR pivoted and said it was good that it was being taught. That aside, any school teaching that systemic racism and white privilege are real and that equity is the solution are teaching CRT.

Whatever are you prattling on about? News organizations don’t “admit” things. CRT is not taught in K-16, the end. You lead an active fantasy life, though.

Any school teaching that systemic racism and white privilege are real and that equity is the solution are teaching CRT. Are you saying these things aren't belong taught in any K-12 school or college? Come on man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are way down since they got rid of books and text books.

That is the real bottom line. Brining textbooks back will help the students actually learn the material, and as a by product, also will raise test scores (SOLs as well as other more basic tests like reading ability and math ability).

I think textbooks were removed for equity. It's very difficult for parents to help their kids study when all they have are a few photocopies and a YouTube video. Because poor parents aren't helping their kids anyway, not having textbooks helps close the achievement gap by hindering everyone else.

Lol. Whoever typed this is clinically insane.

1. Who helps kids with studying more, poor or wealthy parents? 2. Do textbooks help parents (who all used textbooks as students) assist their kids more than videos and photocopies? 3. Is equity not a main pillar of most progressive school districts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Singapore still uses paper textbooks and lots of paper worksheets. Teaching style there is very traditional. Their PISA scores are far far higher than the US and have been for many years.

I don’t believe this is true. Singapore is a global leader in applied technology and are investing in it for schools.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-education-ministry-technology-learning-spaces-industry-partnerships-21cc-framework-3790921

My niece goes to high school in Cupertino - home of Apple in the Silicon Valley - and they use textbooks.

My niece goes to school in Florida. They also use textbooks that teach about states rights and seem to white wash history.

Knowing the curricula that is available, I highly doubt this. Please find us some quotes from her book and start a new thread, so that we can discuss. Otherwise, this is a typical liberal bash on the south.

My son attended 3rd grade in SC. Let’s just say that the textbook chapters about the civil war were incomplete. We had to supplement heavily that year.

There are TX and SC versions of history textbooks. TX tends to drive more content because it is a bigger market. We didn’t have textbooks in Fairfax to compare against.

This sounds like a progressive fantasy.

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Anonymous wrote:We have two teachers this year in public who are using textbooks. One only had a limited supply so they asked families who could to buy a copy for their kids for at home (or there was an online version). It was under $20 used, older copy.

For the environmentalists, these books are used over and over again.

I had these 50-year-old textbooks when I was in school. It was riddled with errors.

Do you believe everything you read on a screen?

[Anonymous]

Fairfax County’s lower tier high schools often do not have adequate text books or supposed digital access for all of their students. It makes a big difference.

Separately, there’s abundant research indicating a hand -brain connection that increases learning. Tablets, etc. Do not provide this. There’s way too much computer use in elementary classrooms. There’s also way too much curriculum pushed down to younger children. We’ve created a rush on anxiety disorders and and other real problems bc we don’t let children develop normally.

Slowing things down with books instead of dancing cartoons and flashing colors will help with the absorption of material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Singapore still uses paper textbooks and lots of paper worksheets. Teaching style there is very traditional. Their PISA scores are far far higher than the US and have been for many years.

I don’t believe this is true. Singapore is a global leader in applied technology and are investing in it for schools.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-education-ministry-technology-learning-spaces-industry-partnerships-21cc-framework-3790921

My niece goes to high school in Cupertino - home of Apple in the Silicon Valley - and they use textbooks.

My niece goes to school in Florida. They also use textbooks that teach about states rights and seem to white wash history.

Knowing the curricula that is available, I highly doubt this. Please find us some quotes from her book and start a new thread, so that we can discuss. Otherwise, this is a typical liberal bash on the south.

My son attended 3rd grade in SC. Let’s just say that the textbook chapters about the civil war were incomplete. We had to supplement heavily that year.

There are TX and SC versions of history textbooks. TX tends to drive more content because it is a bigger market. We didn’t have textbooks in Fairfax to compare against.

Please give us a snippet of the 3rd grade coverage of the Civil War.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County’s lower tier high schools often do not have adequate text books or supposed digital access for all of their students. It makes a big difference.

Separately, there’s abundant research indicating a hand -brain connection that increases learning. Tablets, etc. Do not provide this. There’s way too much computer use in elementary classrooms. There’s also way too much curriculum pushed down to younger children. We’ve created a rush on anxiety disorders and and other real problems bc we don’t let children develop normally.

Slowing things down with books instead of dancing cartoons and flashing colors will help with the absorption of material.

In DC but so agree with this. The reliance on videos for learning as young as PK and K is disturbing. Yes, a YouTube video with an ABC song that you can play over will teach kids their ABCs yes. It will also acclimate them to learning everything via a video. Just sing your freaking ABCs like we used to. Use books and cards and write on a board. TALK to kids. It might take longer in the short run but it might save them from total screen addiction in the long run, which seems worth it to me.

[Anonymous]

The kids are already addicted upon entering school. Too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County’s lower tier high schools often do not have adequate text books or supposed digital access for all of their students. It makes a big difference.

Separately, there’s abundant research indicating a hand -brain connection that increases learning. Tablets, etc. Do not provide this. There’s way too much computer use in elementary classrooms. There’s also way too much curriculum pushed down to younger children. We’ve created a rush on anxiety disorders and and other real problems bc we don’t let children develop normally.

Slowing things down with books instead of dancing cartoons and flashing colors will help with the absorption of material.

In DC but so agree with this. The reliance on videos for learning as young as PK and K is disturbing. Yes, a YouTube video with an ABC song that you can play over will teach kids their ABCs yes. It will also acclimate them to learning everything via a video. Just sing your freaking ABCs like we used to. Use books and cards and write on a board. TALK to kids. It might take longer in the short run but it might save them from total screen addiction in the long run, which seems worth it to me.

Agree. People who don’t see the issue with video are 150% naive. Beyond naive.

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My kids have digital textbooks, which I think is fine. It’s the same as the hardcover version, just electronic. I do think it is important for kids to know how to find a book in the library, research using books, not just Google, and develop an argument or compose a research paper. I don’t think laptops are necessarily the problem, but how they are used.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please can we do the same?

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/11/sweden-says-back-to-basics-schooling-works-on-paper

The return to more traditional ways of learning is a response to politicians and experts questioning whether Sweden’s hyper-digitalised approach to education, including the introduction of tablets in nursery schools, had led to a decline in basic skills.

I'm so glad to hear this. My 4th grade/APS daughter brought home study sheets for VA history. These were very brief sections, mostly 1 sentence bullet points. Missing the paragraphs of explanation that a textbook would've had. I've no clue what they're supposed to be learning. Memorize bullet points and by process of elimination match memory to multiple choice answers?

Not all textbooks are equal. Good textbooks are very expensive. Cheap textbooks are full of errors and sometimes disturbing ideologies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please can we do the same?

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/11/sweden-says-back-to-basics-schooling-works-on-paper

The return to more traditional ways of learning is a response to politicians and experts questioning whether Sweden’s hyper-digitalised approach to education, including the introduction of tablets in nursery schools, had led to a decline in basic skills.

I'm so glad to hear this. My 4th grade/APS daughter brought home study sheets for VA history. These were very brief sections, mostly 1 sentence bullet points. Missing the paragraphs of explanation that a textbook would've had. I've no clue what they're supposed to be learning. Memorize bullet points and by process of elimination match memory to multiple choice answers?

Not all textbooks are equal. Good textbooks are very expensive. Cheap textbooks are full of errors and sometimes disturbing ideologies.

It's true. Often these books are even free because they are funded by political parties.