ideas for non-selective colleges along the NE corridor (amtrak)

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Anonymous wrote:Many.

Juniata links by Amtrak to Philadelphia. It takes much longer than driving but my kid just did schoolwork.


While I'm a fan of Juniata and it's a great option for environmental science/biology, it definitely does not meet the request for a school that's "more urban/suburban (ie, not an isolated campus - wants access to shops, restaurants, things to do). "


Good point. Sorry, I think I was responding to the “headline,” not whole post.

Conn College has an Amtrak station on town, but we found New London to be somewhat sketchy.
Conn College is not a great choice for someone who isn’t particularly into academics.
Anonymous
Paul Smith’s college is non selective, but not anywhere near the NE train line . It is an amazing gem for environmental studies. It is very well respected in the industry.

https://www.paulsmiths.edu/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks - OP here. Will be going more carefully through the list.

Let's see - trying to answer some questions asked.

I was thinking Amtrak as a marker as making it more accessible - one two levels. First, kid who doesn't drive has places to go, second it's probably not terribly isolated. Also making an assumption that flying is more expensive.

Kid has a strong preference for schools that are not isolated - with an urban feel or close walking opportunities off campus.

Our "close list" probably mirrors the standards everyone mentions - yes to Delaware and Pitt. Also Towson. JMU was only school south of DC. Also considering West Virginia, but haven't visited. Kid really liked the feel of Westchester, but didn't like Temple or Drexel or St Joe's or Duquesne. Did not like Christopher Newport or ODU either.

It's hard on this board sometimes - when everyone is posting about T25 and 1580 SATs and all the successes (which are awesome! I do not begrudge!) and it's just harder to evaluate where your mostly B some As some Cs absolute disaster with standardized testing kid might even be accepted. It was hard for my kid to realize that schools that other family members went to - UVA, UMD - were out of reach. It's also hard at school when friends are considering Pitt and Delaware safety schools to think those are your reach schools.

I thought Vermont was a stretch - I should have looked before Nov 1, but until people answered here I really thought it was harder to get into.

Kid just really dislikes the heat. Wants cooler weather, and I just thought we didn't have anything that really is a different sort of climate from DC.

Finally, we live in DC, and the DC TAG program for state schools factors heavily in parent likes (but also kid has somehow really responded well to public universities and feels most SLACs are too small.)

Thanks - wish I had asked earlier!


Good luck with your kid and realize that DCUM isn't even close to reality!
Anonymous
Love this thread. thanks OP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Drew seems to fit. Accessible by Amtrak, urban / suburban, shops nearby, leafy.


Great suggestion. They have a cool study abroad option where you go abroad for a month for an environmental science intensive, as opposed to a whole semester.

Amtrak is very close and you do not need a car on campus- can walk to Madison.


https://drew.edu/academics/environmental-studies-sustainability/environmental-studies-sustainability-department/
Anonymous
FYI, Flying is often cheaper for my kid who is in Boston.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FYI, Flying is often cheaper for my kid who is in Boston.


Is there subway and/or Amtrak service from the airport? I assume there is, but I was having issues figuring that out for our Sept trip
Anonymous

Amtrak stations near college campuses
#399170 by Rockingham Racer
Tue May 15, 2007 4:25 pm
Reading another post about the convenience of the Durham, NH stop for UNH got me wondering:
Where are the convenient [walking distance] Amtrak stations and their corresponding colleges?

UPenn @ Philadelphia comes to mind.
#399174 by shadyjay
Tue May 15, 2007 4:34 pm
The Vermonter does a brisk college business. Essex Jct is the closest stop to Burlington, where UVM and other colleges are. Montpelier Jct gets a lot of "cadets" from Northfield University. The closest college on that route to a station is probably UMASS in Amherst. Sunday afternoons during the school year I've seen quite a few college-bound folks on board.
#399198 by byte
Tue May 15, 2007 5:28 pm
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign is pretty close to the Champaign station. I wouldn't mind walking but usually it's easier to take a bus, if you've got a big suitcase or something.

#399200 by bmichel5581
Tue May 15, 2007 5:41 pm
Southern Illinois University at Carbondale

Illinois State University at Normal
#399201 by bmichel5581
Tue May 15, 2007 5:42 pm
University of Nebraska, Lincoln is sorta close
Amtrak stations near college campuses
#399214 by Ocala Mike
Tue May 15, 2007 6:10 pm
3-2/3 miles from Deland, FL Amtrak Station to Stetson University. A nice one-hour walk/workout.
#399219 by John_Perkowski
Tue May 15, 2007 6:22 pm
University of Central Missouri is less than 1/2 mile from Warrensburg Amtrak Station.

The only problem Amtrak has with Lincoln and UN-Lincoln is the trains come in the middle of the night!!!

#399226 by bmichel5581
Tue May 15, 2007 6:30 pm
John_Perkowski wrote:

The only problem Amtrak has with Lincoln and UN-Lincoln is the trains come in the middle of the night!!!
If they're on time
Amtrak near colleges
#399227 by palmland
Tue May 15, 2007 6:40 pm
I'm an alum of Randolph-Macon college in Ashland, VA. A small private school about 15 miles north of Richmond. Long ago, I used to lie in my bunk in the freshman dorm and watch the ACL/SAL Florida parade on the RF&P roll by. Now several regionals stop there and of course all Carolina/Florida bound trains still go by.
#399266 by mkellerm
Tue May 15, 2007 7:57 pm
In Michigan, I think the closest is Michigan State in East Lansing; I believe that MSU owns the station. It is about a mile-long walk up the hill from the Ann Arbor station to the Diag at the University of Michigan. Wayne State in Detroit is also about a mile away from the station. In Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo College and Western Michigan are 2-3 miles from the station, although the tracks go right through them. It is no coincidence that Ann Arbor and Kalamazoo are the two busiest stations in Michigan.
#399279 by gprimr1
Tue May 15, 2007 8:15 pm
Amherst Amtrak station is within walking distance of Umass but it's a stretch. I've done it and it isn't fun because of the uphill/downhill. They do have a good bus system but the locals sometimes make the mistake of assuming visitors know how the buses operate. I was told my several people my first trip to just take a bus. It's probably closer to the campus of Amherst College.

At times when alot of students are using it, it can resemble something from, imo, an old west train depot. I've even once been there and there was a student playing guitar as he waited for the train. It can make waiting for the train fun to see and talk to all the different people who come there to get the train.

#399281 by Launcher
Tue May 15, 2007 8:20 pm
I love the Amherst Mass. station area, but with once a day service, I have yet to get to use it in all my trips to that campus. The majority of those UMASS students tend to take the more frequently scheduled "PPP" bus lines to Springfield, Boston, and NYC. They come about 5 to 9 a day.

I have been through South Bend, Indiana station, but just passing through. I didn't see the ND campus. Can anyone say one way or the other if that is campus-accessible?

Drexel is convenient to PHL. New Bruns.,NJ, local stop on the NEC, is home to Rutgers main campus. Many students use the train there to get to DC and NY. Then you have Princeton @ Princeton Junction, another local stop on NEC. A dinky takes the students back and forth to the main corridor.
#399287 by LI Loco
Tue May 15, 2007 8:33 pm
In Boston, Emerson College is in walking distance of Back Bay station. When I took my daughter for a visit there, we left the orientation just 20 minutes before train time.
#399298 by CHIP72
Tue May 15, 2007 8:56 pm
As was noted above, both Drexel University and the University of Pennsylvania are very close to 30th Street Station. Drexel's campus is about 3-4 blocks from 30th Street Station, directly west on Market Street*, while the eastern end of Penn's campus is probably about 5-6 blocks from PHL, directly south of Drexel's campus and southwest of 30th Street Station.

The above of course means that historic sports facilities on Penn's campus like the Palestra (college basketball) and Franklin Field (college football, Penn Relays) are within walking distance of 30th Street Station. Drexel's Daskalakis Center (college basketball) is 4 blocks away, at 34th and Market.

As was also noted above, parts of Rutgers' campus are very close to the New Brunswick station.

Some other colleges I can think of:

Huntingdon, PA: my undergraduate alma mater, Juniata College, is at the north end of town while the Amshack, I mean station, is at the south end of town. Still, students can easily use the station (about 1 1/2 miles from campus) if needed. I never personally used it when I was in college, but it was always a contingency location if I had a problem getting home for breaks; I would have ridden to Harrisburg and stayed with my uncle.

Ardmore, PA: Haverford College is about a mile from the station. Also, though it is only SEPTA and not Amtrak, the SEPTA R5 station for Villanova is ON Villanova's campus. This rail line is the Keystone Corridor. FWIW, Villanova's college basketball arena, the Pavilion, is located only a hundred feet or so from the railroad tracks.

Elizabethtown, PA: Elizabethtown College is probably about 1 to 1 1/2 miles east of the Amtrak station.

Newark, DE: The University of Delaware's main campus is about a mile north of the Amtrak/SEPTA station. I think the south part of the campus may be even closer to the station.

Pittsburgh: both Point Park College and Duquesne University are within a 1 or 1 1/2 miles or so of Pittsburgh Penn Station.

Greensburg, PA: I think Seton Hill College is pretty close to the Amtrak station, but I'm not sure.

*For those not familiar with Philadelphia's 30th Street Station, Market Street, the major east-west street in Philadelphia, abuts the south side of the station.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Drew seems to fit. Accessible by Amtrak, urban / suburban, shops nearby, leafy.


Great suggestion. They have a cool study abroad option where you go abroad for a month for an environmental science intensive, as opposed to a whole semester.

Amtrak is very close and you do not need a car on campus- can walk to Madison.


https://drew.edu/academics/environmental-studies-sustainability/environmental-studies-sustainability-department/


+1. Great location and beautiful school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FYI, Flying is often cheaper for my kid who is in Boston.


Is there subway and/or Amtrak service from the airport? I assume there is, but I was having issues figuring that out for our Sept trip

Yes - there is the T that goes from Logan to most of the Boston area Schools (Including Tufts)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If u are willing to go south, look at Roanoke College or Lynchburg College


Lynchburg is now university of Lynchburg - I had a HS friend who went there and was excited to see my kiddo was looking at Randolph, which is right down the road and in a consortium


Sweet briar is also in the Consortium, I think, and about a 20 minute drive/cab from Lynchburg
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks - OP here. Will be going more carefully through the list.

Let's see - trying to answer some questions asked.

I was thinking Amtrak as a marker as making it more accessible - one two levels. First, kid who doesn't drive has places to go, second it's probably not terribly isolated. Also making an assumption that flying is more expensive.

Kid has a strong preference for schools that are not isolated - with an urban feel or close walking opportunities off campus.

Our "close list" probably mirrors the standards everyone mentions - yes to Delaware and Pitt. Also Towson. JMU was only school south of DC. Also considering West Virginia, but haven't visited. Kid really liked the feel of Westchester, but didn't like Temple or Drexel or St Joe's or Duquesne. Did not like Christopher Newport or ODU either.

It's hard on this board sometimes - when everyone is posting about T25 and 1580 SATs and all the successes (which are awesome! I do not begrudge!) and it's just harder to evaluate where your mostly B some As some Cs absolute disaster with standardized testing kid might even be accepted. It was hard for my kid to realize that schools that other family members went to - UVA, UMD - were out of reach. It's also hard at school when friends are considering Pitt and Delaware safety schools to think those are your reach schools.

I thought Vermont was a stretch - I should have looked before Nov 1, but until people answered here I really thought it was harder to get into.

Kid just really dislikes the heat. Wants cooler weather, and I just thought we didn't have anything that really is a different sort of climate from DC.

Finally, we live in DC, and the DC TAG program for state schools factors heavily in parent likes (but also kid has somehow really responded well to public universities and feels most SLACs are too small.)

Thanks - wish I had asked earlier!


University of New Hampshire. On Amtrak - goes to North Station in Boston as well as points north such as Portland, Freeport and Old Orchard Beach. Buses to Portsmouth and Hampton Beach. Don't need a car on campus. Skiing and outing clubs. Sports culture - football and hockey. Good food. Down to earth people.

Not as hard to get into as UVM. U Maine is extremely isolated - close to nothing.

Good luck.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Drew seems to fit. Accessible by Amtrak, urban / suburban, shops nearby, leafy.


Great suggestion. They have a cool study abroad option where you go abroad for a month for an environmental science intensive, as opposed to a whole semester.

Amtrak is very close and you do not need a car on campus- can walk to Madison.


https://drew.edu/academics/environmental-studies-sustainability/environmental-studies-sustainability-department/


AMTRAK is not near Madison - you'd take the NJ Transit train to Newark then Amtrak. But don't let that be a showstopper. Drew is a gorgeous campus!
Anonymous
Sarah Lawrence, close-in suburb of NYC.
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