Bomb caller identified.

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Anonymous wrote:In this case, the kid admitted guilt, but have to be careful to not witch-burn. There was an incident where the CO didn't sharpen their pencils and it turned out the kid's account was used by someone else. The CO never admitted overreacting or offered an apology (their typical MO).

What is a CO?

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at Einstein (currently evacuated) and said the kid who made the Einstein threat did so on Instagram ahead of time. We need to tell our kids to speak up when they see this stuff on social media.

MCPS also needs a better social media monitoring and management strategy than what they have. Since they created a position of chief medical officer, they probably need to deputize someone under IT with monitoring and managing the risk and threat of student activity on social media. Could be a joint effort with MCPD and an extension of the CEO program.

LoL please explain how that would work! Figure out and follow every student account? Only follow the obvious ones and give a false sense of security? Elaborate!

If you don't know how law enforcement uses enterprise-grade tools to monitor and investigate social media activity, you're probably not well-versed enough to engage in the conversation. So it's best to just stay out of it instead of assuming it's unfeasible.

Not much law enforcement left in MoCo. The ones who are do patrol. Supporting services are getting very thin.

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Anonymous wrote:GOOD. I know privacy laws prevent them from naming and shaming, but I wish they would and haul his parents out too! They need to make an example out of this kid's reckless behavior so no one else dreams of following in his footsteps.

Children under 13 can't be charged with a crime unless it's a violent crime.
This explains absolutely everything


https://patch.com/maryland/rockville/4-bomb-threats-sent-12-year-old-montgomery-hs-oak-view-es

No it doesn’t. It doesn’t explain anything. And contains no additional info beyond the press release in the first post. How is making a bomb threat NOT a crime of violence?

Talk to your State political leadership.

The Maryland criminal code defines crimes of violence.

https://codes.findlaw.com/md/criminal-law/md-code-crim-law-sect-14-101/

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect the vast majority of people are not suggesting that a 12-year old should be incarcerated - but are frustrated by the apparent lack of any tools for accountability under Maryland law. There are lots of options short of locking them up. Community service? Restitution? Some kind of MCPD "scared straight" program? Charging the parents with negligent supervision of a minor? Or a combination of all of these.

Why is everyone on this thread so angry? It was a huge waste of time and money but I am just grateful no one was physically hurt.

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Anonymous wrote:In this case, the kid admitted guilt, but have to be careful to not witch-burn. There was an incident where the CO didn't sharpen their pencils and it turned out the kid's account was used by someone else. The CO never admitted overreacting or offered an apology (their typical MO).

What is a CO?

Central Office.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect the vast majority of people are not suggesting that a 12-year old should be incarcerated - but are frustrated by the apparent lack of any tools for accountability under Maryland law. There are lots of options short of locking them up. Community service? Restitution? Some kind of MCPD "scared straight" program? Charging the parents with negligent supervision of a minor? Or a combination of all of these.

Why is everyone on this thread so angry? It was a huge waste of time and money but I am just grateful no one was physically hurt.

Mine is the quote you are responding to. I'm not "angry," but like others, I'm frustrated that there does not appear to be any consequences for juveniles who engage in these actions. I am not advocating locking up children, but there should be mandatory interventions of some kind to ensure some measure of restitution and to facilitate rehabilitation. And in case you didn't notice, there were two more bomb threats today. Wonder why our kids are so stressed out? Threats of violence against their schools, even if they turn out to be empty threats, don't help.

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I didn't mean to imply you were one of the "angry" posters. Your post was thoughtful and actually moved the conversation forward.

I don't have any answers but I hope the kid gets the help they need and agree that consequences like restitution should be part of that. I find myself wondering if the child was bullied and what other difficulties they encountered in life. The elementary school is a very poor school.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't mean to imply you were one of the "angry" posters. Your post was thoughtful and actually moved the conversation forward.

I don't have any answers but I hope the kid gets the help they need and agree that consequences like restitution should be part of that. I find myself wondering if the child was bullied and what other difficulties they encountered in life. The elementary school is a very poor school.

It's probably more likely that the home environment is the root cause of the problem and not the school.

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I disagree. You don't lash out at the schools when you are upset about home.

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

He’s 12. He’s not a lost cause. I imagine that there are quite a few people on DCUM and in positions of power and prestige today who made bomb threats at that age or thought it was funny when it happened.

My anxious teen came home from Blair that morning so I know it wasn’t a victimless crime. However, writing off this 12 year old is overkill. Charge his family $80k for expenses and make him do community service until he graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

You're advocating for throwing away a twelve-year-old.

No, I don't support that.

+100

Sure, maybe he can't be fixed. But throwing him away without trying is inhuman.

It can also create a real monster who actually does act out with violence in the future

Correct. The posters worried about him ACTUALLY doing harm in the future should look up the connection between finishing school and incarceration.

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

He’s 12. He’s not a lost cause. I imagine that there are quite a few people on DCUM and in positions of power and prestige today who made bomb threats at that age or thought it was funny when it happened.

My anxious teen came home from Blair that morning so I know it wasn’t a victimless crime. However, writing off this 12 year old is overkill. Charge his family $80k for expenses and make him do community service until he graduates.

80k is the equitable.

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They should fine the parents. Like $1000.

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

You're advocating for throwing away a twelve-year-old.

No, I don't support that.

Expelling him is not "throwing him away." He is not dead and he will still get an education. It will just be in an alternative school or online, which is a fair consequence for a child who continuously makes terroristic threats to his home school community. That's a natural and reasonable consequence for a pretty severe action.

This is Montgomery County. Every snowflake is precious and special

All children are. So weird and discouraging for a community of liberals to show such hate.

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

He’s 12. He’s not a lost cause. I imagine that there are quite a few people on DCUM and in positions of power and prestige today who made bomb threats at that age or thought it was funny when it happened.

My anxious teen came home from Blair that morning so I know it wasn’t a victimless crime. However, writing off this 12 year old is overkill. Charge his family $80k for expenses and make him do community service until he graduates.

We've all be forcefed this bullshit that kids who go wrong do so because of something that went wrong with parenting. It's just plain wrong. Sometimes parents are doing the best they can and kids go out of control due to external factors. Kids spend most of their waking hours at school and if you study incidents where kids committed crimes they can often trace the cause back to something that happened at their schools.