Bomb caller identified.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

He’s 12. He’s not a lost cause. I imagine that there are quite a few people on DCUM and in positions of power and prestige today who made bomb threats at that age or thought it was funny when it happened.

My anxious teen came home from Blair that morning so I know it wasn’t a victimless crime. However, writing off this 12 year old is overkill. Charge his family $80k for expenses and make him do community service until he graduates.

So now you've thrown his family into poverty? Sure, that'll help the outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

You're advocating for throwing away a twelve-year-old.

No, I don't support that.

+100

Sure, maybe he can't be fixed. But throwing him away without trying is inhuman.

It can also create a real monster who actually does act out with violence in the future

Correct. The posters worried about him ACTUALLY doing harm in the future should look up the connection between finishing school and incarceration.

This is an important post. All of you calling for the kid's head please read this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't mean to imply you were one of the "angry" posters. Your post was thoughtful and actually moved the conversation forward.

I don't have any answers but I hope the kid gets the help they need and agree that consequences like restitution should be part of that. I find myself wondering if the child was bullied and what other difficulties they encountered in life. The elementary school is a very poor school.

I'm angry. I'm angry that I worked hard to afford to live in a nice area but miscreants who's parents don't own are mixed in by law and that I took a pay cut to parent my children and adjust work load when I had kids but absent parents have no idea what their kids are up to and those kids are committing crimes that this area doesn't think should be punished. And they go to school with my children and get the school day interrupted near end of quarter when my child is trying to be successful. But the school system that I thought had a stellar reputation doesn't punish children or move them out of the school when their behavior interferes with my child's right to learn. I'm also angry that we have seen terrible behavior from people -including children and adults- that continues to get worse but the laws and courts and school systems (who we pay and elect to maintain a certain quality of life) have taken progressive ideals to the extreme and our quality of life gets worse. Yet posters are injecting more Phil Donahue Era nonsense into the conversation (,it must be the home life! Perhaps they were bullied!,) instead of working to improve the safety and quality of life here.

[Anonymous]

We can eliminate the anti-correlation between graduation and incarceration by keeping criminals in school terrorizing the population until after graduation. Equity achieved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

You're advocating for throwing away a twelve-year-old.

No, I don't support that.

+100

Sure, maybe he can't be fixed. But throwing him away without trying is inhuman.

It can also create a real monster who actually does act out with violence in the future

Correct. The posters worried about him ACTUALLY doing harm in the future should look up the connection between finishing school and incarceration.

This is an important post. All of you calling for the kid's head please read this.

It's more nonsense. Kids who drop out of school do so because of poverty, etc. Not because they were given restorative justice.

[Anonymous]

If children under 13 can't be charged with crimesz then parents should be convicted of crimes or torts for allowing children to misuse communication devices in damaging way.

[Anonymous]

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/03/the-cost-of-school-threats-on-.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

He’s 12. He’s not a lost cause. I imagine that there are quite a few people on DCUM and in positions of power and prestige today who made bomb threats at that age or thought it was funny when it happened.

My anxious teen came home from Blair that morning so I know it wasn’t a victimless crime. However, writing off this 12 year old is overkill. Charge his family $80k for expenses and make him do community service until he graduates.

We've all be forcefed this bullshit that kids who go wrong do so because of something that went wrong with parenting. It's just plain wrong. Sometimes parents are doing the best they can and kids go out of control due to external factors. Kids spend most of their waking hours at school and if you study incidents where kids committed crimes they can often trace the cause back to something that happened at their schools.

Dp yup. It's the thought process of people who grew up watching Oprah and Phil Donahue. The fact is people who display antisocial behavior have personality disorders. Period. If their parents were abusive on top of that it's because many personality disorders are inherited. Only in very extreme cases of abuse does parenting lead to criminal behavior.

[Anonymous]

Heyey, don't pay no mind... If you're under 13 you won't be doing any tieieime!

Heyey, come out and play!

[Anonymous]

Has a nonspecific bomb threat ever had a bomb?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't mean to imply you were one of the "angry" posters. Your post was thoughtful and actually moved the conversation forward.

I don't have any answers but I hope the kid gets the help they need and agree that consequences like restitution should be part of that. I find myself wondering if the child was bullied and what other difficulties they encountered in life. The elementary school is a very poor school.

I'm angry. I'm angry that I worked hard to afford to live in a nice area but miscreants who's parents don't own are mixed in by law and that I took a pay cut to parent my children and adjust work load when I had kids but absent parents have no idea what their kids are up to and those kids are committing crimes that this area doesn't think should be punished. And they go to school with my children and get the school day interrupted near end of quarter when my child is trying to be successful. But the school system that I thought had a stellar reputation doesn't punish children or move them out of the school when their behavior interferes with my child's right to learn. I'm also angry that we have seen terrible behavior from people -including children and adults- that continues to get worse but the laws and courts and school systems (who we pay and elect to maintain a certain quality of life) have taken progressive ideals to the extreme and our quality of life gets worse. Yet posters are injecting more Phil Donahue Era nonsense into the conversation (,it must be the home life! Perhaps they were bullied!,) instead of working to improve the safety and quality of life here.

Same, PP. I’m a non-White first generation immigrant and I agree with you so much.

All of these so-called ‘progressive policies’ are negatively affecting my family’s safety and quality of life. No thank you.

So very tired of the nonsense. Hold people accountable for their bad behavior - whether it’s a principal sexually harassing staff or a kid sexually assaulting another student or a kid carelessly emailing bomb threats.

Should the punishments fit the crime? Yes, of course. But simply giving people a pass for bad behavior (especially kids) is not a good option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't mean to imply you were one of the "angry" posters. Your post was thoughtful and actually moved the conversation forward.

I don't have any answers but I hope the kid gets the help they need and agree that consequences like restitution should be part of that. I find myself wondering if the child was bullied and what other difficulties they encountered in life. The elementary school is a very poor school.

I'm angry. I'm angry that I worked hard to afford to live in a nice area but miscreants who's parents don't own are mixed in by law and that I took a pay cut to parent my children and adjust work load when I had kids but absent parents have no idea what their kids are up to and those kids are committing crimes that this area doesn't think should be punished. And they go to school with my children and get the school day interrupted near end of quarter when my child is trying to be successful. But the school system that I thought had a stellar reputation doesn't punish children or move them out of the school when their behavior interferes with my child's right to learn. I'm also angry that we have seen terrible behavior from people -including children and adults- that continues to get worse but the laws and courts and school systems (who we pay and elect to maintain a certain quality of life) have taken progressive ideals to the extreme and our quality of life gets worse. Yet posters are injecting more Phil Donahue Era nonsense into the conversation (,it must be the home life! Perhaps they were bullied!,) instead of working to improve the safety and quality of life here.

Damn you, Poe's Law!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't mean to imply you were one of the "angry" posters. Your post was thoughtful and actually moved the conversation forward.

I don't have any answers but I hope the kid gets the help they need and agree that consequences like restitution should be part of that. I find myself wondering if the child was bullied and what other difficulties they encountered in life. The elementary school is a very poor school.

I'm angry. I'm angry that I worked hard to afford to live in a nice area but miscreants who's parents don't own are mixed in by law and that I took a pay cut to parent my children and adjust work load when I had kids but absent parents have no idea what their kids are up to and those kids are committing crimes that this area doesn't think should be punished. And they go to school with my children and get the school day interrupted near end of quarter when my child is trying to be successful. But the school system that I thought had a stellar reputation doesn't punish children or move them out of the school when their behavior interferes with my child's right to learn. I'm also angry that we have seen terrible behavior from people -including children and adults- that continues to get worse but the laws and courts and school systems (who we pay and elect to maintain a certain quality of life) have taken progressive ideals to the extreme and our quality of life gets worse. Yet posters are injecting more Phil Donahue Era nonsense into the conversation (,it must be the home life! Perhaps they were bullied!,) instead of working to improve the safety and quality of life here.

Same, PP. I’m a non-White first generation immigrant and I agree with you so much.

All of these so-called ‘progressive policies’ are negatively affecting my family’s safety and quality of life. No thank you.

So very tired of the nonsense. Hold people accountable for their bad behavior - whether it’s a principal sexually harassing staff or a kid sexually assaulting another student or a kid carelessly emailing bomb threats.

Should the punishments fit the crime? Yes, of course. But simply giving people a pass for bad behavior (especially kids) is not a good option.

In Kentucky the 15 yo hoax bomb threat the child had a mental health screening and returned to school.

Maybe you haven’t lived here long enough to know laws across the whole county.

But your assessment is uneducated.

You moved all the way to the Us for a better life but you’re afraid to move states.

Move. Also where not Kentucky clearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since he can't be charged criminally, I hope he can be expelled from school?

I doubt it. First, it's not clear he committed the offense while on school grounds. Second, it's not violent. Usually you need to be involved with drugs or weapons to get expulsion.

But he'll get a heavy dose of restorative justice!

Honestly....the kid clearly needs intensive help if he's making email bomb threats for attention. So while I think RJ is cringeworthy and meek way to discipline with high-risk behavior, if they coupled it with suspension/expulsion, it could be something....

Thank you.
I am honestly shocked by the tone of most of the posts. The lack of empathy makes me feel pretty hopeless about our area.
The child is 12. He should not be expelled but probably needs another school where he can get more support. He is not a sicko. He needs help.

And it’s really the people like you that make ME hopeless. This kid doesn’t need “support.” He’s effed in the head. “Support” won’t fix that.
Face reality here folks. This is not a low level cry for help. This is a broken person who can’t be fixed. Show more empathy to the victims than the perp. Please.

He’s 12. He’s not a lost cause. I imagine that there are quite a few people on DCUM and in positions of power and prestige today who made bomb threats at that age or thought it was funny when it happened.

My anxious teen came home from Blair that morning so I know it wasn’t a victimless crime. However, writing off this 12 year old is overkill. Charge his family $80k for expenses and make him do community service until he graduates.

We've all be forcefed this bullshit that kids who go wrong do so because of something that went wrong with parenting. It's just plain wrong. Sometimes parents are doing the best they can and kids go out of control due to external factors. Kids spend most of their waking hours at school and if you study incidents where kids committed crimes they can often trace the cause back to something that happened at their schools.

Dp yup. It's the thought process of people who grew up watching Oprah and Phil Donahue. The fact is people who display antisocial behavior have personality disorders. Period. If their parents were abusive on top of that it's because many personality disorders are inherited. Only in very extreme cases of abuse does parenting lead to criminal behavior.

A statement of opinion doesn't magically become a statement of fact when you add "Period." to the end of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should fine the parents. Like $1000.

Fine them for what?