Teen Driver Intentionally Hits Officer on 270 - October 18

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Anonymous wrote:If you drive 136 mph on a busy public highway (which he was arrested for previously) it should be treated the same from a legal standpoint as indiscriminately firing a gun in public place like a shopping mall. This piece of sh*t should have been in prison a long time ago for his recklessness.

Yes, it should be, but it isn't.

Another question is why it's legal to have cars that you can drive 136 mph. Why aren't cars speed-limited to a maximum of 80 mph?

Because it’s rare that anyone actually drives like this.

First of all, it's not at all rare for people to drive at dangerous speeds on 270. There have been several times in just the past week where I was driving on 270 and someone zoomed past me and all the other cars on the road.

Second of all, so what? What would we lose, if cars were speed-limited to a maximum of 80 mph? Compare to the police officer, who lost his legs.

This idiot is orders of magnitude worse than any of the people driving faster than you would like on 270. Even the most lead footed beltway slalom driver is not well known by police because they try to instigate a pursuit.

Beltway slalom drivers are not well known to police because they avoid police. That doesn't help the rest of us stay safe.

Thanks for acknowledging the clear difference between this lunatic and an average Virginia tesla driver. We are definitely more at risk from a crazy 19yo with no license who tries to run over LEO. Case in point.

Not really. There are not a lot of 19-year-olds in expensive muscle cars who treat interactions with the police like video games. There are a lot of dangerous Beltway slalom drivers, including ones from Virginia in Teslas.

Is that what the statistics show? I thought teen drivers (not necessarily teen drivers going 100+ mph) are by far involved in the most crashes and injuries and fatalities.

As you say.

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Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

We're raised a generation in which too many kids don't think consequences for their actions apply to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

The law is different in Maryland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Reckless driving in VA is defined by either speed in excess of 85 mph or 20+ miles over the posted limit. There is no discretion.

In MD, reckless driving is defined by “wanton disregard” so it is subjective and would require a referral for prosecution. I think it typically is reserved for accidents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

The charge is first degree attempted murder with a maximum penalty of life in prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

The charge is first degree attempted murder with a maximum penalty of life in prison.

Exactly. We are beyond traffic court now. He used his car as a deadly force and attempted to kill someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

If the driver hit the officer on purpose, or the driver was drunk, then yes. Otherwise, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

If the driver hit the officer on purpose, or the driver was drunk, then yes. Otherwise, no.

I thought it was already established that he hit the officer on purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

If the driver hit the officer on purpose, or the driver was drunk, then yes. Otherwise, no.

I thought it was already established that he hit the officer on purpose.

No, it hasn't been established. The police have said it, and he's been charged with it, but those are not the same thing.

But the point is, if you're driving at an excessive speed, and you're not drunk, and you hit and kill someone not on purpose, then it's unlikely that you will wind up in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you drive 136 mph on a busy public highway (which he was arrested for previously) it should be treated the same from a legal standpoint as indiscriminately firing a gun in public place like a shopping mall. This piece of sh*t should have been in prison a long time ago for his recklessness.

Yes, it should be, but it isn't.

Another question is why it's legal to have cars that you can drive 136 mph. Why aren't cars speed-limited to a maximum of 80 mph?

Because it’s rare that anyone actually drives like this.

First of all, it's not at all rare for people to drive at dangerous speeds on 270. There have been several times in just the past week where I was driving on 270 and someone zoomed past me and all the other cars on the road.

Second of all, so what? What would we lose, if cars were speed-limited to a maximum of 80 mph? Compare to the police officer, who lost his legs.

I’ve often wondered this myself. I don’t believe there is a single road in America where one can lawfully drive 100+ mph, but somehow we have turned a blind eye to manufacturers selling muscle cars and sports cars capable of hitting nearly 200mph to any jackass who can afford the down payment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

If the driver hit the officer on purpose, or the driver was drunk, then yes. Otherwise, no.

I thought it was already established that he hit the officer on purpose.

No, it hasn't been established. The police have said it, and he's been charged with it, but those are not the same thing.

But the point is, if you're driving at an excessive speed, and you're not drunk, and you hit and kill someone not on purpose, then it's unlikely that you will wind up in jail.

I guess the prosecutor will decide whether they want to proceed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This area deserves everything it gets based on the elected officials who are soft on crime and want to reduce any police involvement further. This criminal should have already been in jail based on the number of citations alone.

Since when have people been jailed for traffic citations? They're not jailable offenses.

DP. He's got a couple citations that are. Knowingly driving without insurance and fleeing and eluding can both carry jail time. Why he wasn't arrested on those is a question for the police who issued the citations, though.

I don't know the law in MD, but in Virginia reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor and can carry up to 12 months in jail. So at least the criminal code has the option. In Fairfax you used to get a day in jail for every mile over 90 but I don't know if that's still the case. The looks on people's faces when the judge told them that was priceless.

Not the case in Maryland. Reckless driving is not an incarcerable offense.

In Maryland, would excessive speed resulting in the amputation of this officer's legs likely result in incarceration?

If the driver hit the officer on purpose, or the driver was drunk, then yes. Otherwise, no.

I thought it was already established that he hit the officer on purpose.

No, it hasn't been established. The police have said it, and he's been charged with it, but those are not the same thing.

But the point is, if you're driving at an excessive speed, and you're not drunk, and you hit and kill someone not on purpose, then it's unlikely that you will wind up in jail.

That's not true. When the Baltimore Beltway construction workers were killed in March both drivers were charged, jailed and have a total of 55 charges brought against them. Neither was drunk. One had THC in her system from the day prior. Both were driving over 120 MPH. Their cases have not yet went to court, but one driver (with THC in system) was held without bail. Both are facing manslaughter charges, and serious jail time. The second driver is on house arrest until trial.