APS and new healthcare provider

[Anonymous]

You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

Also they are going from a completely closed system at Kaiser to the open market with traditional insurers. As I understand, there will be zero overlap in providers. This isn’t like switching from Aetna to BCBS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

Exactly. The people crapping on APS educators here are ignoring obvious and crucial context, which is that Duran's administration has consistently DECREASED and reduced community involvement in decision-making (not that this needed to be a committee-situation, but it's high stakes for many people). Giving a heads up at the last possible moment that a major change is forthcoming is just another example of student-facing staff feeling shut out by leadership. I say this as someone with no love of Kaiser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how quitting APS would help you keep Kaiser, unless you can quickly find another job that uses Kaiser. That seems non-sensical.

Someone said that ACPS and FCPS have Kaiser, so it may not be that hard if there are openings.

I'm not APS, but have had Kaiser for 10 years through my employer. I really like it and would be miffed to lose the pediatrician, primary and ob/gyn we've used since before kids. We have good relationships and it's great to have that continuity. That said, stuff happens and you have to roll with it.

I wonder if there's help that can be provided to help connect folks with new in network HCPs. I wouldn't even know where to look after 10 years with Kaiser.

You look on your provider's website. This is not mind boggling. Annoying, yes, but if you "don't even know where to look," that's a you problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

Is there a reason APS couldn't have said in the spring that Kaiser didn't put in a bid so they will not be an option in 2024? They may not have known who they'd use yet, but they'd have known that Kaiser wasn't in the running.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how quitting APS would help you keep Kaiser, unless you can quickly find another job that uses Kaiser. That seems non-sensical.

Someone said that ACPS and FCPS have Kaiser, so it may not be that hard if there are openings.

I'm not APS, but have had Kaiser for 10 years through my employer. I really like it and would be miffed to lose the pediatrician, primary and ob/gyn we've used since before kids. We have good relationships and it's great to have that continuity. That said, stuff happens and you have to roll with it.

I wonder if there's help that can be provided to help connect folks with new in network HCPs. I wouldn't even know where to look after 10 years with Kaiser.

You look on your provider's website. This is not mind boggling. Annoying, yes, but if you "don't even know where to look," that's a you problem.

I had a PPO briefly before Kaiser and recall calling dozens of offices and not finding one that would take new patients. I ended up finding a physician who specialized in healthcare for gay men/HIV who was willing to accept me as a patient, but it wasn't a great fit as a woman who isn't HIV+. It was really frustrating. It was so much easier after I moved to Kaiser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how quitting APS would help you keep Kaiser, unless you can quickly find another job that uses Kaiser. That seems non-sensical.

Someone said that ACPS and FCPS have Kaiser, so it may not be that hard if there are openings.

I'm not APS, but have had Kaiser for 10 years through my employer. I really like it and would be miffed to lose the pediatrician, primary and ob/gyn we've used since before kids. We have good relationships and it's great to have that continuity. That said, stuff happens and you have to roll with it.

I wonder if there's help that can be provided to help connect folks with new in network HCPs. I wouldn't even know where to look after 10 years with Kaiser.

You look on your provider's website. This is not mind boggling. Annoying, yes, but if you "don't even know where to look," that's a you problem.

Kaiser really is different from how other providers operate. I'm sure it's not just a "me" problem but is likely an issue for anyone who has been with Kaiser for a while. I haven't used a PPO since before Obamacare or in this area. I really have no idea about the options or procedures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

Exactly. The people crapping on APS educators here are ignoring obvious and crucial context, which is that Duran's administration has consistently DECREASED and reduced community involvement in decision-making (not that this needed to be a committee-situation, but it's high stakes for many people). Giving a heads up at the last possible moment that a major change is forthcoming is just another example of student-facing staff feeling shut out by leadership. I say this as someone with no love of Kaiser.

Exactly. Last year he wanted to yank health care benefits from extended day staff in the middle of the year. This year he's set up a bidding process that excludes the closed-system health care plan that more than 50% of staff used.

But don't forget that Syphax got 5,000 more square feet for all of the central office staff who telework and have a bajillion paid days off now.

Teachers have been crapped on at every turn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

Exactly. The people crapping on APS educators here are ignoring obvious and crucial context, which is that Duran's administration has consistently DECREASED and reduced community involvement in decision-making (not that this needed to be a committee-situation, but it's high stakes for many people). Giving a heads up at the last possible moment that a major change is forthcoming is just another example of student-facing staff feeling shut out by leadership. I say this as someone with no love of Kaiser.

Exactly. Last year he wanted to yank health care benefits from extended day staff in the middle of the year. This year he's set up a bidding process that excludes the closed-system health care plan that more than 50% of staff used.

But don't forget that Syphax got 5,000 more square feet for all of the central office staff who telework and have a bajillion paid days off now.

Teachers have been crapped on at every turn.

What’s your source that the bidding process excluded Kaiser?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

So then what- teachers get pissed and leave before the first day of school? Is that good for our kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

Exactly. The people crapping on APS educators here are ignoring obvious and crucial context, which is that Duran's administration has consistently DECREASED and reduced community involvement in decision-making (not that this needed to be a committee-situation, but it's high stakes for many people). Giving a heads up at the last possible moment that a major change is forthcoming is just another example of student-facing staff feeling shut out by leadership. I say this as someone with no love of Kaiser.

Exactly. Last year he wanted to yank health care benefits from extended day staff in the middle of the year. This year he's set up a bidding process that excludes the closed-system health care plan that more than 50% of staff used.

But don't forget that Syphax got 5,000 more square feet for all of the central office staff who telework and have a bajillion paid days off now.

Teachers have been crapped on at every turn.

What’s your source that the bidding process excluded Kaiser?

It didn't. Kaiser DID NOT BID. Too much drama over this. People in non-teaching jobs have to deal with a change in health care all the time. No one wants to stand up to the complainers on AEM and tell them such.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

Is there a reason APS couldn't have said in the spring that Kaiser didn't put in a bid so they will not be an option in 2024? They may not have known who they'd use yet, but they'd have known that Kaiser wasn't in the running.

Yes, there were not allowed to disclose that per VA law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how quitting APS would help you keep Kaiser, unless you can quickly find another job that uses Kaiser. That seems non-sensical.

EXACTLY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are terrible. This is a huge change and teachers should’ve been given more of a heads up. They’ve put up with a ton in the last couple of years and morale is terrible already.

APS has known since July. There’s no excuse why they weren’t told sooner.

+1

CareFirst is great, but they absolutely should have been told earlier if APS knew in July.

So then what- teachers get pissed and leave before the first day of school? Is that good for our kids?

Knowing earlier would’ve allowed teachers to start finding new doctors. It takes months and months to get appointments.