ELC for everyone?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?

It's amazing! At our school so many students are rising to this challenge. I have to commend the county for raising the bar.

Yet you haven’t explained what the challenge is that so many are rising to.

The higher expectations that honors asks of all students.

Again, not explaining what they’re doing. Which make me believe that yes they may have raised the bar, but no its not a true ELC/CES type class.

It's a better curriculum overall, so if more kids can handle it, why not? MCPS dropped the ball and Benchmark is awful. No reason most of the students should be stuck with that when ELC is readily available.

Because no one here has provided any information to suggest that more kids are handling it vs the class being intentionally slowed. Which is the opposite of handling it. Further the Benchmark curriculum has tons of extras and supplemental materials that could be used for on grade level students. I’m all for expecting high quality from all students but it’s unfair to make those students who truly are ready to do work 1,2, 3 grades levels above for who the program was created, not be allowed to actually reach for their capability because we want to provide the same thing to everyone just because it’s easier. Just like it would be unfair to expect all the students in level or behind to perform 2 grades above.

[Anonymous]

EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

Oops typo - ELC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?

It's amazing! At our school so many students are rising to this challenge. I have to commend the county for raising the bar.

Yet you haven’t explained what the challenge is that so many are rising to.

The higher expectations that honors asks of all students.

Again, not explaining what they’re doing. Which make me believe that yes they may have raised the bar, but no its not a true ELC/CES type class.

It's why they call it honors for all which raises the bar for everyone not just the kids with pushy parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

It's ridiculous that MCPS does not have differentiated English classes for MS and the beginning of HS when they do in ES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

It's ridiculous that MCPS does not have differentiated English classes for MS and the beginning of HS when they do in ES.

They want everyone to have the same outcome. That means dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

Yes, but the parents in elementary school feel like their DC is getting enriching, accelerated content so it's all good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

Unless they increase their expectations and raise everyone up like in that movie Stand & Deliver!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

It's ridiculous that MCPS does not have differentiated English classes for MS and the beginning of HS when they do in ES.

The policy of not differentiating English in early HS is only a year old! There is still time for a coordinated and vocal group of current MS-aged kids to ask questions and demand answers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

What’s weird is that many of the texts used in Marking Period One ELC for fourth grade are not above grade level at all. For example, the students are reading Junior Great Books from the grade four workbook. But I suppose it makes sense when you think about the fact that the curriculum is supposed to be enrichment not acceleration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

It's ridiculous that MCPS does not have differentiated English classes for MS and the beginning of HS when they do in ES.

The policy of not differentiating English in early HS is only a year old! There is still time for a coordinated and vocal group of current MS-aged kids to ask questions and demand answers.

The way I read this is that after my kid is done with CES, they can expect to be bored for the next 4+ years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

It's ridiculous that MCPS does not have differentiated English classes for MS and the beginning of HS when they do in ES.

The policy of not differentiating English in early HS is only a year old! There is still time for a coordinated and vocal group of current MS-aged kids to ask questions and demand answers.

The way I read this is that after my kid is done with CES, they can expect to be bored for the next 4+ years.

At least five years of boredom unless he has luck in the middle school Magnet lottery

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

It's ridiculous that MCPS does not have differentiated English classes for MS and the beginning of HS when they do in ES.

They want everyone to have the same outcome. That means dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator.

So why bother in ES then? It doesn't make any sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EC is 1-2 grades above level. It is not appropriate for everyone.

It’s also silly because if ELC is 1-2 grades above level, and Advanced English in middle school is on-level for all, you are essentially teaching at 6th-7th grade level for 4 years in a row.

What’s weird is that many of the texts used in Marking Period One ELC for fourth grade are not above grade level at all. For example, the students are reading Junior Great Books from the grade four workbook. But I suppose it makes sense when you think about the fact that the curriculum is supposed to be enrichment not acceleration.

Is Grade 4 JGB above grade level? If it is only meant to be offered to kids who are above grade level, that might be the case. (I don't know - just wondering.) I do know that for William & Mary, the grade-level work is 2 grades above grade level. So the grade 4 book has 6th grade texts.