Can we please ditch the requirements for having LinkedIn?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an executive recruiter, we LOVE LinkedIn. It’s the primary research tool. If you are not on LinkedIn, we’re not finding you. If you are and it’s a bad profile, you will get dinged if you’re in a high level executive role because frankly it looks like you’re not with the times. Only boomers avoid LinkedIn.

I know several gen xers who are not on linked in

Genx and boomers are cut from the same cloth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Linked In is malware. Every time it asks for access to my contacts, I say no, and then it continually suggests that I connect to people that are in my contacts with whom I have no other visible connection (e.g., my doctor, or a relative with a different name who lives in another state that is in another completely unrelated industry).

Because your contact opted in.

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Anonymous wrote:As an executive recruiter, we LOVE LinkedIn. It’s the primary research tool. If you are not on LinkedIn, we’re not finding you. If you are and it’s a bad profile, you will get dinged if you’re in a high level executive role because frankly it looks like you’re not with the times. Only boomers avoid LinkedIn.

Because you are lazy. You recruit by having an easy website to search on, instead of networking, having professional contacts, going to conferences and recruiting in person. You just want to search LI and send out boilerplate messages. Problem is if you can do it, soon enough an AI bot can do it too.

And you’re a… well you know what I’m gonna say. Actually we do not recruit ON LinkedIn, we only send InMail if we absolutely cannot find contact info otherwise. We use it as a starting point to identify the people at the right level on the organizations that we want to target. Then we do more research and find phone and email information. Then we reach out usually via email to present the opportunity. We also have a database of thousands but I’m filling roles for my client so I do not spend alot of time developing a relationship unless they are a fit for my position or something we’d generally recruit for.

Oh and yes we get tons of referrals from our outreach. But sure you can call us lazy, just know we clearly won’t be calling you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an executive recruiter, we LOVE LinkedIn. It’s the primary research tool. If you are not on LinkedIn, we’re not finding you. If you are and it’s a bad profile, you will get dinged if you’re in a high level executive role because frankly it looks like you’re not with the times. Only boomers avoid LinkedIn.

Because you are lazy. You recruit by having an easy website to search on, instead of networking, having professional contacts, going to conferences and recruiting in person. You just want to search LI and send out boilerplate messages. Problem is if you can do it, soon enough an AI bot can do it too.

This is so stupid, and you so clearly have no understanding of how LinkedIn works, how recruiting works, and how AI works and is already working to find employees.

It is not used in all industries- I don’t think it is widely used to hire doctors, nurses, teachers and others. But in other industries - all tech jobs, all large companies, law firms, consulting, finance, etc - it is widely used precisely because it is a huge pool of people with all their relevant professional information out there. Now instead of hoping you’ve made friends with the right recruiter (who may only have connected with people from certain schools or socio-economic backgrounds or even races), you can be found by and you can find numerous companies and jobs. You don’t have to be on it - but in certain industries, you will really struggle to get a job without it. And if you’re thinking it is the company’s loss: not really! They have an enormous pool to fish in and they don’t need to waste time with someone who can’t be bothered to use a platform that has now been around for about 20 years.

You're talking about the benefits to employees. That doesn't make the recruiter any less lazy. Click a few buttons and send a message. Of course you love it. Plus you can soft discriminate because most profiles will have a photo.

+1 recruiters are scum

Pretty sure the people I’ve helped place into their dream jobs don’t believe that. What an odd perspective to have on people who can actually help you land a great job?
Clearly you folk know nothing about retained executive search.

You people are crazy. Please… please do delete your LinkedIn so I have no hope of coming across you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always chime in on these posts to say that I don't have LinkedIn because my ex used LI and other professional sites to stalk me. Super fun to get paged at work because he'd called the front desk asking for me "urgently." :/
So when you make it weird for people to not have a social media presence, remember that you're excluding a group of candidates (mostly women candidates) who cannot safely make themselves available for your idle Google search. It would be nice if you'd just read my resume and then call me if you want to talk.

Just block him and hibernate account and activate only when needed

PP addressed it how she feels comfortable, why should she change anything because of a whacko. When I see no photo/presence I assume there is a safety concern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an executive recruiter, we LOVE LinkedIn. It’s the primary research tool. If you are not on LinkedIn, we’re not finding you. If you are and it’s a bad profile, you will get dinged if you’re in a high level executive role because frankly it looks like you’re not with the times. Only boomers avoid LinkedIn.

Because you are lazy. You recruit by having an easy website to search on, instead of networking, having professional contacts, going to conferences and recruiting in person. You just want to search LI and send out boilerplate messages. Problem is if you can do it, soon enough an AI bot can do it too.

This is so stupid, and you so clearly have no understanding of how LinkedIn works, how recruiting works, and how AI works and is already working to find employees.

It is not used in all industries- I don’t think it is widely used to hire doctors, nurses, teachers and others. But in other industries - all tech jobs, all large companies, law firms, consulting, finance, etc - it is widely used precisely because it is a huge pool of people with all their relevant professional information out there. Now instead of hoping you’ve made friends with the right recruiter (who may only have connected with people from certain schools or socio-economic backgrounds or even races), you can be found by and you can find numerous companies and jobs. You don’t have to be on it - but in certain industries, you will really struggle to get a job without it. And if you’re thinking it is the company’s loss: not really! They have an enormous pool to fish in and they don’t need to waste time with someone who can’t be bothered to use a platform that has now been around for about 20 years.

You're talking about the benefits to employees. That doesn't make the recruiter any less lazy. Click a few buttons and send a message. Of course you love it. Plus you can soft discriminate because most profiles will have a photo.

+1 recruiters are scum

Pretty sure the people I’ve helped place into their dream jobs don’t believe that. What an odd perspective to have on people who can actually help you land a great job?
Clearly you folk know nothing about retained executive search.

You people are crazy. Please… please do delete your LinkedIn so I have no hope of coming across you.

If you're just plucking people from LI for your retained executive search, you have a crummy network and are lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LinkedIn is great. Main way to keep track of your friends, network and contacts when they change jobs, which can be every few years or more!

Also great for getting intros to others for references, advice, jobs, information, events, etc. Have been using it since 2005.

That’s fine if Op doesn’t work in an industry where that’s helpful or if Op doesn’t want to make a short profile. Whatever.

+1. Works great in my industry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have our resumes, what other info do you need? Why is LI ‘required’ by so many HR people, and why is it a ‘red flag’ if you don’t have a profile? LI is now extraordinarily invasive. There is too much info that needs to be put out there that makes it easy for scammers to steal your identity or try to phish/social engineer you or your bank. It’s also crazy how many permissions LI now asks for. Can we get rid of this platform already? It’s probably worse than Facebook and ruins everyone’s privacy.

Let’s get rid of linkedin platform?!?

Whelp if you have $24b Op you could go take it private and dismantle it.

You seem widely successful in your career so that should be no sweat.

Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Linked In is malware. Every time it asks for access to my contacts, I say no, and then it continually suggests that I connect to people that are in my contacts with whom I have no other visible connection (e.g., my doctor, or a relative with a different name who lives in another state that is in another completely unrelated industry).

Yup +100. So many oblivious fools do not realize how invasive LI is. How many people out there never check the permissions they’re granting to LI?

It’s not that easy to turn off/monitor them either, because every time they update terms these social media companies end up turning back on permissions you previously turned off, or they make it virtually impossible to find the relevant menu screens to control your data because they make a Byzantine labyrinth of menus and jargon you need to go through.

Never got any things nor memes or ads or non contacts feeds. Guess my settings are fantastic for the last 15+ years.

[Anonymous]

Probably not wise to have a LinkedIn profile if you hold an active clearance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior in college searching for a job. She and all of her friends and classmates use mainly Handshake and Linked In to find internships and jobs these days (well - besides the nepotism jobs ). Several of them search for recent alumns from their universities who work in the field or company that they are interested in, and they contact them to see if they would like to chat or meet for a coffee. We have one friend who got a job that way.

The young folks find it very useful for networking.

That’s how my kid got her job. A carefully crafted LI profile. She then intentionally connected to women alumni from her school who were 1-2 years older. Connected, requested a mock interview as interested in company. It worked.

To be brutally honest. I interview a guy same age as me yesterday with no real LI. He had one no picture, contact info, no posts and maybe 30-50 connections.

Mind you same age as me. But he shows up gray hair, little heavy, crooked yellow teeth, a suit from the 1990s. He used dated terms. I think he was fearful of age discrimination so no social media presence.

However, I am his exact age. I have zero gray hair, perfect teeth (should be for the cost) in shape, I make sure my clothes are modern and I know all the layers buzz words.

Jennifer Anniston, George Clooney, Tom Cruise aa we age perhaps get ahead of it.

I know I am not hiring a model but I at least want Men in Black meaning they are not noticeable.

Also this guy could have used a ton of interview tips and mock interviews.

If I was him first I would have got tips my LI connections.

Here is why LI is PRICELESS I had a guy I never met contact me last month about interviewing at my former job. I ended up talking to him on phone and I realized I still had list of interview questions with expected answers and HR sheet for that job. I sent it to him along with messaging a reference.

It is a powerful tool beyond belief. Your personal network is BS. I got a $200 an hour consulting job on it from a Luxembourg company and so many jobs over last 20 years.

Indeed or applying on line is a black hole.

Do you dye your hair?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an executive recruiter, we LOVE LinkedIn. It’s the primary research tool. If you are not on LinkedIn, we’re not finding you. If you are and it’s a bad profile, you will get dinged if you’re in a high level executive role because frankly it looks like you’re not with the times. Only boomers avoid LinkedIn.

Because you are lazy. You recruit by having an easy website to search on, instead of networking, having professional contacts, going to conferences and recruiting in person. You just want to search LI and send out boilerplate messages. Problem is if you can do it, soon enough an AI bot can do it too.

This is so stupid, and you so clearly have no understanding of how LinkedIn works, how recruiting works, and how AI works and is already working to find employees.

It is not used in all industries- I don’t think it is widely used to hire doctors, nurses, teachers and others. But in other industries - all tech jobs, all large companies, law firms, consulting, finance, etc - it is widely used precisely because it is a huge pool of people with all their relevant professional information out there. Now instead of hoping you’ve made friends with the right recruiter (who may only have connected with people from certain schools or socio-economic backgrounds or even races), you can be found by and you can find numerous companies and jobs. You don’t have to be on it - but in certain industries, you will really struggle to get a job without it. And if you’re thinking it is the company’s loss: not really! They have an enormous pool to fish in and they don’t need to waste time with someone who can’t be bothered to use a platform that has now been around for about 20 years.

You're talking about the benefits to employees. That doesn't make the recruiter any less lazy. Click a few buttons and send a message. Of course you love it. Plus you can soft discriminate because most profiles will have a photo.

+1 recruiters are scum

Pretty sure the people I’ve helped place into their dream jobs don’t believe that. What an odd perspective to have on people who can actually help you land a great job?
Clearly you folk know nothing about retained executive search.

You people are crazy. Please… please do delete your LinkedIn so I have no hope of coming across you.

"retained executive search" lol are we supposed to be impressed by your work jargon?

[Anonymous]

I have friends who place sr execs and make 20% of each placement’s annual comp if they stay one year.

That’s 20% of $1-3M+ a year comp times 3-6 placements a year for a 3 person niche placement team.