APS: SOL Failure Notification

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would be helpful to know immediately so the student could do summer school. Additionally, right now there is the VDOE grant the family could have used for tutoring.

The fact APS has a policy to wait till the last allowable minute unlike FCPS is the concerning theme of this thread IMO. Why hide this from parents?

I don't know, but people should be making public comments about this to the school board. emailing the principal does nothing when it's a district wide policy.

No one is going to make public comment about their own kid failing SOLS. That’s not a realistic expectation and should not be needed.

Parents can meet with school board members privately.

This. Tell me how to do this. I do not want my child’s SOL story the fodder for public comments. See deeply offensive comments on this thread about the child and our parenting skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the haters. You're right to be upset.

Agree, ignore the syphax agents on here

Nope. Just a parent who knows how to count and understands how SOLs/LDs work.

Save your self-righteousness for AEM.

[Anonymous]

Not sharing SOL information with parents in a timely way is information hoarding. It's inappropriate and out of step with surrounding counties. The policy absolutely needs to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would be helpful to know immediately so the student could do summer school. Additionally, right now there is the VDOE grant the family could have used for tutoring.

The fact APS has a policy to wait till the last allowable minute unlike FCPS is the concerning theme of this thread IMO. Why hide this from parents?

I don't know, but people should be making public comments about this to the school board. emailing the principal does nothing when it's a district wide policy.

No one is going to make public comment about their own kid failing SOLS. That’s not a realistic expectation and should not be needed.

Parents can meet with school board members privately.

This. Tell me how to do this. I do not want my child’s SOL story the fodder for public comments. See deeply offensive comments on this thread about the child and our parenting skills.

What!? You choose to put this on a public anonymous message board and proceeded to throw several hissy fits when responses didn’t back up your outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would be helpful to know immediately so the student could do summer school. Additionally, right now there is the VDOE grant the family could have used for tutoring.

The fact APS has a policy to wait till the last allowable minute unlike FCPS is the concerning theme of this thread IMO. Why hide this from parents?

I don't know, but people should be making public comments about this to the school board. emailing the principal does nothing when it's a district wide policy.

No one is going to make public comment about their own kid failing SOLS. That’s not a realistic expectation and should not be needed.

Parents can meet with school board members privately.

This. Tell me how to do this. I do not want my child’s SOL story the fodder for public comments. See deeply offensive comments on this thread about the child and our parenting skills.

Wait, is this OP?

If so, I was on your side, but you have a team of people working with your kid, but can’t figure out how to find open office hours for school board members?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the haters. You're right to be upset.

Agree, ignore the syphax agents on here

Nope. Just a parent who knows how to count and understands how SOLs/LDs work.

Sorry but it seems really dumb for a parent to do nothing in the face of a failing a math or reading SOL in elementary school. Sure, it is just one data point, but it is data nonetheless, data that a parent can use to make sure their kid doesn’t fall even further behind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would be helpful to know immediately so the student could do summer school. Additionally, right now there is the VDOE grant the family could have used for tutoring.

The fact APS has a policy to wait till the last allowable minute unlike FCPS is the concerning theme of this thread IMO. Why hide this from parents?

I don't know, but people should be making public comments about this to the school board. emailing the principal does nothing when it's a district wide policy.

No one is going to make public comment about their own kid failing SOLS. That’s not a realistic expectation and should not be needed.

Parents can meet with school board members privately.

This. Tell me how to do this. I do not want my child’s SOL story the fodder for public comments. See deeply offensive comments on this thread about the child and our parenting skills.

You are misdirecting your frustration.

https://www.apsva.us/arlington-school-board/about-the-school-board/open-office-hours/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the haters. You're right to be upset.

Agree, ignore the syphax agents on here

Nope. Just a parent who knows how to count and understands how SOLs/LDs work.

Sorry but it seems really dumb for a parent to do nothing in the face of a failing a math or reading SOL in elementary school. Sure, it is just one data point, but it is data nonetheless, data that a parent can use to make sure their kid doesn’t fall even further behind.

It depends on the other data points. Are all other test scores and assessments great? Then probably ok to wait until the start of school to discuss with school. If they weren’t great, then you knew that before the summer and could make plans accordingly. They offered some virtual summer work. Maybe OP should have done that with her kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the haters. You're right to be upset.

Agree, ignore the syphax agents on here

Nope. Just a parent who knows how to count and understands how SOLs/LDs work.

Save your self-righteousness for AEM.

I don’t post on AEM but I have offered up helpful posts here for years. OP wasn’t looking for help. She just wanted to trash APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would be helpful to know immediately so the student could do summer school. Additionally, right now there is the VDOE grant the family could have used for tutoring.

The fact APS has a policy to wait till the last allowable minute unlike FCPS is the concerning theme of this thread IMO. Why hide this from parents?

I don't know, but people should be making public comments about this to the school board. emailing the principal does nothing when it's a district wide policy.

No one is going to make public comment about their own kid failing SOLS. That’s not a realistic expectation and should not be needed.

Parents can meet with school board members privately.

This. Tell me how to do this. I do not want my child’s SOL story the fodder for public comments. See deeply offensive comments on this thread about the child and our parenting skills.

What!? You choose to put this on a public anonymous message board and proceeded to throw several hissy fits when responses didn’t back up your outrage.

Op here. Feel pretty backed up. My reading is that no one here can justify APS’ delay and most folks think it was pretty horrible to not tell families before summer break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the haters. You're right to be upset.

Agree, ignore the syphax agents on here

Nope. Just a parent who knows how to count and understands how SOLs/LDs work.

Save your self-righteousness for AEM.

I don’t post on AEM but I have offered up helpful posts here for years. OP wasn’t looking for help. She just wanted to trash APS.

Ugh, OP here. Yes 100% mad at APS, but I was under the impression that my schools principle screwed this up. Which is why I wondered who else for notified. I am walking away with the belief that this is an APS wide problem and no one gets notified. Which is really bad because we at least are acting. What about ES children who fail and no one bothers to contact?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sycophants on here for APS never fail to disappoint.

To the OP, I’m sorry you’ve gone through this and our extremely well funded school district has completely let you down to presumably hide their own shortcomings (why else have this policy).

OP's story is BS. If she and her team of doctors were waiting on the results of the SOL to determine next steps to address her kid's LDs then they were doing it wrong.

Seriously? What are you talking about? I am OP. No way was I “waiting” with my “team of doctors” on the SOL results. First off, I don’t have a team of doctors. I hired one private doctor. And am talking to educational consultants and former teachers. I did so BECAUSE OF MY CHILDS SOLS RESULTS which I leaned about two weeks ago. I can tell you only that SOL results were the straw that broke the camels back in our decision to pursue identifying whether the child has an LD. It’s an expensive process. S/he may not; I hope they don’t. But certainly the fact of the failures and margin on failures were relevant to our decision. This information was withheld from us by APS, and we would have taken action earlier had we known about the results. They were inconsistent with teacher feedback but not necessarily every test result. Sometimes it’s not a 100% clear picture for parents which is why passing information along is really really important—especially where a teacher doesn’t communicate. But putting aside the LD which everyone is focused on, the learning loss over the summer is the true crime here. What about tutoring funds we did not access? What summer school we did not pursue? What about turors we did not privately hire? I am so pissed.

You were mostly concerned about summer learning loss? You had the school calendar. Why would you need the SOL results to understand the summer schedule?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sycophants on here for APS never fail to disappoint.

To the OP, I’m sorry you’ve gone through this and our extremely well funded school district has completely let you down to presumably hide their own shortcomings (why else have this policy).

OP's story is BS. If she and her team of doctors were waiting on the results of the SOL to determine next steps to address her kid's LDs then they were doing it wrong.

Seriously? What are you talking about? I am OP. No way was I “waiting” with my “team of doctors” on the SOL results. First off, I don’t have a team of doctors. I hired one private doctor. And am talking to educational consultants and former teachers. I did so BECAUSE OF MY CHILDS SOLS RESULTS which I leaned about two weeks ago. I can tell you only that SOL results were the straw that broke the camels back in our decision to pursue identifying whether the child has an LD. It’s an expensive process. S/he may not; I hope they don’t. But certainly the fact of the failures and margin on failures were relevant to our decision. This information was withheld from us by APS, and we would have taken action earlier had we known about the results. They were inconsistent with teacher feedback but not necessarily every test result. Sometimes it’s not a 100% clear picture for parents which is why passing information along is really really important—especially where a teacher doesn’t communicate. But putting aside the LD which everyone is focused on, the learning loss over the summer is the true crime here. What about tutoring funds we did not access? What summer school we did not pursue? What about turors we did not privately hire? I am so pissed.

You were mostly concerned about summer learning loss? You had the school calendar. Why would you need the SOL results to understand the summer schedule?

I became VERY concerned about summer loss when it became crystal clear via the SOL that the teacher has not taught my child anything. The teacher gave very positive feedback. The prior test results were inconsistent. The SOL made apparent that my child needed help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We lost 9 weeks due to this failure to notify almost entirely over the summer when the child was continuing the “summer slide” to 1) begin the process of diagnosing a
Learning Disability, which could take months, and, 2) we did not set up tutoring because we were not advised by the teacher/school that the need was there. I get that the teacher should have given us some information and I fault this particular teacher but had APS given us the score we would have realized how bad things might be. So rather than enter the new elementary year having worked over the summer, child did not meet standards over last year and fell further behind over the summer. The failure to notify us was truly harmful to our child.

“9 weeks”? Did your kid fail the math SOL?

No one should be using the SOL as a diagnostic criteria for LDs.

Your kid has received multiple assessments throughout the year that would have raised concerns. If you ignored all of that and were waiting on the SOL (which isn’t even helpful to diagnose LDs) then that’s on you.

Seems like people are just looking for things to complain about.

Are you insane? Of course this is an issue and failing the SOL is a red flag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would be helpful to know immediately so the student could do summer school. Additionally, right now there is the VDOE grant the family could have used for tutoring.

The fact APS has a policy to wait till the last allowable minute unlike FCPS is the concerning theme of this thread IMO. Why hide this from parents?

I don't know, but people should be making public comments about this to the school board. emailing the principal does nothing when it's a district wide policy.

No one is going to make public comment about their own kid failing SOLS. That’s not a realistic expectation and should not be needed.

Parents can meet with school board members privately.

This. Tell me how to do this. I do not want my child’s SOL story the fodder for public comments. See deeply offensive comments on this thread about the child and our parenting skills.

What!? You choose to put this on a public anonymous message board and proceeded to throw several hissy fits when responses didn’t back up your outrage.

Op here. Feel pretty backed up. My reading is that no one here can justify APS’ delay and most folks think it was pretty horrible to not tell families before summer break.

Having had this happen to us unexpectedly a few years back, I wholeheartedly agree. And yes I am an engaged parent, and no there were no warning signs that the school gave to us. Grades were fine. Then surprise - failed the SOL and we were not told until late summer.