APS: SOL Failure Notification

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

Exactly. Your kid doesn’t have to scramble right now to adjust HS courses for the next few years.

So APS was right not to tell us because ES families can just deal with the two month delay? Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

I mean, you don’t think an elementary school parent is entitled to know whether their child can complete on grade level learning when the school system knows s/he cannot? How do you think it impacts an elementary school family to lose an entire summer without summer school / tutoring /whatever to come into a grade the next year already behind and having done nothing to catch up over the summer? I can’t figure out why you think an argument is to be made that it’s more or less important for certain kids in APS based on their age. That is just not a good reason not to communicate with families.

That is not even close to what anyone on this post has said. You are spinning. Take a deep breath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

Exactly. Your kid doesn’t have to scramble right now to adjust HS courses for the next few years.

So APS was right not to tell us because ES families can just deal with the two month delay? Really?

Are you reading the same thread as the rest of us?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be upset too. And I'd be asking a lot of questions. I was frustrated we didn't get the results until the end of July. I knew my kid probably passed, but they did not pass by much, so I would have preferred to have this information a month earlier to help us figure out how to fill holes this summer.

I don't understand the delay in posting scores at ALL. Or if it doesn't matter that my kid failed, then let's stop putting so much emphasis on it.

OP here. SOL test taken in May, results released on July 31. APS delayed us in intervening in our child’s learning for over 2 months — the entire summer. Basically, whole summer lost. No retake was advised. I’m sortof furious.

I’d be curious at the lost time, too. But, historically, retakes are only available to kids who just miss the pass score. I’m not on the side of APS here – I think the delay is ridiculous across the board. Just pointing out the retake thing.

I would be reaching out to the principal asap.

*FURIOUS* not curious. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

Exactly. Your kid doesn’t have to scramble right now to adjust HS courses for the next few years.

So APS was right not to tell us because ES families can just deal with the two month delay? Really?

You asked why the age/grade matters. We explained.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

Exactly. Your kid doesn’t have to scramble right now to adjust HS courses for the next few years.

So APS was right not to tell us because ES families can just deal with the two month delay? Really?

Let me guess. Your kid failed reading comprehension?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be upset too. And I'd be asking a lot of questions. I was frustrated we didn't get the results until the end of July. I knew my kid probably passed, but they did not pass by much, so I would have preferred to have this information a month earlier to help us figure out how to fill holes this summer.

I don't understand the delay in posting scores at ALL. Or if it doesn't matter that my kid failed, then let's stop putting so much emphasis on it.

OP here. SOL test taken in May, results released on July 31. APS delayed us in intervening in our child’s learning for over 2 months — the entire summer. Basically, whole summer lost. No retake was advised. I’m sortof furious.

What was the score?

Why does that matter?

How close was it to the cut off?

Jeez. Are you just here to complain or do you want info from parents with experience?

[Anonymous]

I just disagree that it’s more/leas meaningful to delay notification based on the age of the child. That’s all.

No one indicated anything at all from the school to us about retakes and we were never advised of the failures. I will tell you however that my APS teacher friends think child should have been afforded retake given score.

[Anonymous]

I think the policy in elementary is that they only notify parents right away if the child almost passes, so they can do a retake. I agree that it’s a poor policy, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just disagree that it’s more/leas meaningful to delay notification based on the age of the child. That’s all.

No one indicated anything at all from the school to us about retakes and we were never advised of the failures. I will tell you however that my APS teacher friends think child should have been afforded retake given score.

A kid in ES wouldn’t have to scramble to rearrange their course schedule at the last minute.

Of course the timing matters more to older kids.

They may not graduate HS on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the policy in elementary is that they only notify parents right away if the child almost passes, so they can do a retake. I agree that it’s a poor policy, though.

Ok, so do most elementary schools actually do that or do they nevertheless notify families upon failure? Did anyone’s classroom teacher/principal reach out to them? Or is everyone like us and just uncovered it on Parentvue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

I mean, you don’t think an elementary school parent is entitled to know whether their child can complete on grade level learning when the school system knows s/he cannot? How do you think it impacts an elementary school family to lose an entire summer without summer school / tutoring /whatever to come into a grade the next year already behind and having done nothing to catch up over the summer? I can’t figure out why you think an argument is to be made that it’s more or less important for certain kids in APS based on their age. That is just not a good reason not to communicate with families.

That is not even close to what anyone on this post has said. You are spinning. Take a deep breath.

I thought an anonymous message board was the entirely appropriate place to spin/scream into the ether. The alternative is doing so to actual humans who we need to help our child. Seems better to do so on here.

[Anonymous]

The SOL is just one of many assessments that kids take. How well did the kid do on everything else during the school year? Was the failing score in line with other results? Was your kid already receiving interventions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does APS have any policy requiring that schools notify families of SOL failures? I understand that teachers learn about results almost instantly in June. Our school did not notify us of child’s failure. We did look online when scores were posted and uncovered the failures. No one from the school contacted us. We lost weeks over the summer were we could have tried to understand what happened and to make a plan or even to start remediation. It’s very concerning to me that APS put so much emphasis on these tests and then did absolutely nothing about it for our child.

What grade level?

OP here. Elementary. Why does it matter though?

Also, we had zero notice that this was a likely scenario.

For older grades it’s a bigger deal - it’s required to get credit for some classes.

I cannot imagine it not being a big deal to any family. I am beyond mad.

Understand that you’re mad, but the point being it seriously affects whether or not a kid will receive high school credit and whether or not they can take the next class. For elementary yes, it’s a setback, but it doesn’t impact their next school year from a course perspective. You have time on your side while high school students don’t.

I mean, you don’t think an elementary school parent is entitled to know whether their child can complete on grade level learning when the school system knows s/he cannot? How do you think it impacts an elementary school family to lose an entire summer without summer school / tutoring /whatever to come into a grade the next year already behind and having done nothing to catch up over the summer? I can’t figure out why you think an argument is to be made that it’s more or less important for certain kids in APS based on their age. That is just not a good reason not to communicate with families.

That is not even close to what anyone on this post has said. You are spinning. Take a deep breath.

I thought an anonymous message board was the entirely appropriate place to spin/scream into the ether. The alternative is doing so to actual humans who we need to help our child. Seems better to do so on here.

So you don’t want help, you just want to scream at people trying to help you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The SOL is just one of many assessments that kids take. How well did the kid do on everything else during the school year? Was the failing score in line with other results? Was your kid already receiving interventions?

Completely unaware that this was a potential scenario. Not receiving interventions. Would have acted (and am acting) immediately to figure out what is going on.