Rich Men North of Richmond

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

Best post in the thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the same old, same old populism. Everything is the fault of poor people - but not poor LIKE ME - and the government.

So instead of voting for the people who have actual policies that help the average American, I'm going to vote for the people who give huge tax breaks to the wealthy and the nonworking investor class because they're the ones who REALLY understand me.

People are capable of assessing which party is most consistent with their interests.

Except they're not. Over and over again they prove that.

Example: in every poll, Americans support higher taxes on the wealthy and a wealth tax. Yet Republicans - who just won the House - continue to support cutting taxes on these people.

Look at the child tax credit - only Republicans who are in purple districts support it. Probably nothing else helps the working poor more than a healthy child tax credit, yet the supposed party of the common people opposes it? Why?
https://rollcall.com/2023/08/10/some-republicans-crack-open-door-to-child-tax-credit-compromise/

That's exactly right. A majority of Americans also want gun control, universal health care, raising the minimum wage, and reinstating Glass-Steagall. Republican politicians explicitly oppose these, yet they keep getting elected, because their constituents are more interested in contrived culture war issues and owning the libs at any costs.

And a majority of Americans want less immigration and a tougher stance on crime. Right now no party truly serves the interest of the non-affluent, and that is by design. They just get ping-ponged from party to party.

Yes. It's very clear the elite political, business, academic class is doing what it wants. That usually doesn't end well in the long term. The public wants the border controlled, but the elites do not. It doesn't matter how much they vote less illegal immigration, the elite ignore them. That's bad.

100% this. Both parties are owned by and respond to corruptions and their needs. We’re in a crisis, and the elites on both sides are missing it. This song is a rallying cry for the people who see what is happening around them.

There’s another thread where people are in shock that UPS is going to pay its truckers well. I guarantee you that a large number of the posters whining about that consider themselves democrats.

Our society is in trouble, on multiple fronts. The wealthy are extracting productivity gains and leaving behind broken lives. This will not end well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the same old, same old populism. Everything is the fault of poor people - but not poor LIKE ME - and the government.

So instead of voting for the people who have actual policies that help the average American, I'm going to vote for the people who give huge tax breaks to the wealthy and the nonworking investor class because they're the ones who REALLY understand me.

People are capable of assessing which party is most consistent with their interests.

Except they're not. Over and over again they prove that.

Example: in every poll, Americans support higher taxes on the wealthy and a wealth tax. Yet Republicans - who just won the House - continue to support cutting taxes on these people.

Look at the child tax credit - only Republicans who are in purple districts support it. Probably nothing else helps the working poor more than a healthy child tax credit, yet the supposed party of the common people opposes it? Why?
https://rollcall.com/2023/08/10/some-republicans-crack-open-door-to-child-tax-credit-compromise/

That's exactly right. A majority of Americans also want gun control, universal health care, raising the minimum wage, and reinstating Glass-Steagall. Republican politicians explicitly oppose these, yet they keep getting elected, because their constituents are more interested in contrived culture war issues and owning the libs at any costs.

And a majority of Americans want less immigration and a tougher stance on crime. Right now no party truly serves the interest of the non-affluent, and that is by design. They just get ping-ponged from party to party.

Yes. It's very clear the elite political, business, academic class is doing what it wants. That usually doesn't end well in the long term. The public wants the border controlled, but the elites do not. It doesn't matter how much they vote less illegal immigration, the elite ignore them. That's bad.

100% this. Both parties are owned by and respond to corruptions and their needs. We’re in a crisis, and the elites on both sides are missing it. This song is a rallying cry for the people who see what is happening around them.

There’s another thread where people are in shock that UPS is going to pay its truckers well. I guarantee you that a large number of the posters whining about that consider themselves democrats.

Our society is in trouble, on multiple fronts. The wealthy are extracting productivity gains and leaving behind broken lives. This will not end well.

Funnily enough, “corruptions” was supposed to be “corporations”. At this point they are fairly interchangeable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary
comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

OP here. I love country music. I’m also white male and moderately conservative. Most people would think these are my people.

I’m telling you this was different.

Please highlight the lyrics that scared you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary
comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

OP here. I love country music. I’m also white male and moderately conservative. Most people would think these are my people.

I’m telling you this was different.

Please highlight the lyrics that scared you.

You are completely missing op’s point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

Best post in the thread.

Yes, we know all you have is whataboutism.

[Anonymous]

The song is wildly contradictory and goes to show you the vast majority of America have no idea how the government works.

They will always complain, vote against their self interests, and complain some more.

If you want the lower class to get better benefits, then vote for an ultra progressive politician.

Voting for Trump, DeSantis, Youngkin, or even Biden, won’t help the poor.

We all know the southern lower class would never actually vote in their self interest because they are brainwashed and think that’s socialism (which is what they really want)

Most Americans pay very little to no taxes. What are they complaining about?

[Anonymous]

Not op-
The lyrics weren’t scary.
It imagine it was the audience chanting “secede” that was alarming.
People be chanting that at the Drake concert over a trap beat? Nah? Ok then.
Also Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not op-
The lyrics weren’t scary.
It imagine it was the audience chanting “secede” that was alarming.
People be chanting that at the Drake concert over a trap beat? Nah? Ok then.
Also Duh.

Well, it's amateur hour compared to a Travis Scott concert. He's known for promoting violence at his concerts and was investigated for instigating the violence at his 2021 Astrowold concert that ended with ten dead and thousands injured.

Remember, he kept yelling, "let's rage! Who wanna rage!" And then they raged, and 10 people died. Are you scared like those people were scared?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The song is wildly contradictory and goes to show you the vast majority of America have no idea how the government works.

They will always complain, vote against their self interests, and complain some more.

If you want the lower class to get better benefits, then vote for an ultra progressive politician.

Voting for Trump, DeSantis, Youngkin, or even Biden, won’t help the poor.

We all know the southern lower class would never actually vote in their self interest because they are brainwashed and think that’s socialism (which is what they really want)

Most Americans pay very little to no taxes. What are they complaining about?

Progressive politicians have shown that they care more about allowing illegal immigrate into the country that they do supporting the working class here. Look what’s happening in NYC right now. They are overwhelmed with migrants.

I absolutely support Medicare for all and other supportive social programs, but you cannot have these programs at the same time as open borders. You just can’t, it doesn’t work that way. Look at other socialist democracies. They have tight immigration policies. They have to.

Democrats have rejected the working classes. They have a focus on DEI, immigration and restorative justice. If they were fighting for healthcare and higher corporate taxes, and stop with the disdain for the white working class in this country, they might get somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Op, check out this book. I think you may find it interesting.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/end-times-peter-turchin/1142386683

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary
comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

OP here. I love country music. I’m also white male and moderately conservative. Most people would think these are my people.

I’m telling you this was different.

Please highlight the lyrics that scared you.

You are completely missing op’s point.

I'm not. If you're going to say lyrics incite violence, you need to be specific, like the Fulton County DA was in her 65 count indictment against Young Thug and his criminal street gang. She specifically cited lyrics in his music to establish that he has admitted to directing his gang to kill people. You may remember Young Thug for his debut Album reaching #1 on the rap Billboard, he's a pretty visible figure in hip hop. He's also pretty influential in ATL gang culture and is currently on trial on charges including RICO, murder, armed robbery, and armed assault.

So, back to how scary this guy with beef against rich people is. Specifically, what scared you in his lyrics? Or am I right that you dislike the audience?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary
comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

OP here. I love country music. I’m also white male and moderately conservative. Most people would think these are my people.

I’m telling you this was different.

Please highlight the lyrics that scared you.

You are completely missing op’s point.

I'm not. If you're going to say lyrics incite violence, you need to be specific, like the Fulton County DA was in her 65 count indictment against Young Thug and his criminal street gang. She specifically cited lyrics in his music to establish that he has admitted to directing his gang to kill people. You may remember Young Thug for his debut Album reaching #1 on the rap Billboard, he's a pretty visible figure in hip hop. He's also pretty influential in ATL gang culture and is currently on trial on charges including RICO, murder, armed robbery, and armed assault.

So, back to how scary this guy with beef against rich people is. Specifically, what scared you in his lyrics? Or am I right that you dislike the audience?

I’m not the op. You are taking the post too literally. Op is sounding an alarm, letting us know that something is afoot. That’s what their takeaway was from the experience. They’re not trying to make a case and they don’t have to defend themselves.

They’re giving you a heads up. You can listen or not. Your choice.

[Anonymous]

So the song is about trump?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You people. This song SCARES you? There is no call to arms, no violence discussed, even obliquely.

Meanwhile, let's look at the #1 streamed rap song this week. And I'm a fan of rap, which is how I instantly knew to do some literary comparison.

Fukumean, by Gunna, is #1. Here's a brief excerpt, which I am forced to make redactions so that it isn't blocked immediately by the filters:

[Verse]
F-- you mean?
Young Gunna Wunna, they workin' my nerves
I'm about to pour up some syrup
F-- this b-- like a perv'
Smack from the back, grab her perm
Ice, the berg, uh, shi--' on all you lil' turds
Can't take that d!ck, wait your turn
In my own lane, we can't merge
Suck with no hands, you can learn
Let's see how much you can earn



This is the top one on SoundCloud right now. Now, imagine if a country singer were to produce something analogous.

I could easily go out and find a rap song glorifying violence or with an anti-government bent. I run listening to rap and can vouch that it's themes are not exactly a monument to progressive values.

When I hear all this anger about country music, I can't help but think that you really just dislike the audience, and the audience makes you afraid, and you need to try to justify it by pretending that song about working class woes is a coded call to arms. It's art. Relax.

Best post in the thread.

Yes, we know all you have is whataboutism.

Yes! Comparison is incredibly important. In fact it's the basis of literature analysis. So what about Da Baby. Remember he shot someone in a Walmart, on film no less, for.... staring at him. A famous guy, getting stared at. And he shot him dead right there.

www.wsoctv.com/news/local/new-video-shows-moments-leading-up-deadly-2018-walmart-shooting-involving-rapper-dababy/53SRVIDHO5CIXHY4EWHLUGLXNI/%3foutputType=amp

And not long after, he was back to work and making hits, collabing with Dua Lipa.

Now imagine if Jason Aldean shot someone in a Walmart for looking at him funny.