How has Prigozhin (Russian oligarch with the mutiny last month) not fallen out of a window?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see if this changes the dynamic in Syria and Africa, with all of Prigo's [suddenly former] clients and customers there...

Oh let’s see what happens within Russia. There will be retaliation for this.

LOL. Wut?

You think a few hundred man from his force could drive to the gates of Moscow with no response from the military if he did not have support in the Russians regular military….lol.

There will be retaliation against Putin and his lackeys. Just wait.

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shocked face 😶

[Anonymous]

DP. I think you're all missing the significance of this.
Remember that

Prigozhin was Putin's chef, who reported directly to Putin and no one else

It's Putin's shame Prigozhin turned traitor and no one else

Prigozhin was head of Wagner, who recruited extensively in prisons and in major cities

Those recruited mercs are well-trained and brutal (think sledgehammer)

Those 30-50K mercs (and their associates and families) are now wearily eyed by the FSB as potential liabilities

You think that's gonna last? I don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. I think you're all missing the significance of this.
Remember that

Prigozhin was Putin's chef, who reported directly to Putin and no one else

It's Putin's shame Prigozhin turned traitor and no one else

Prigozhin was head of Wagner, who recruited extensively in prisons and in major cities

Those recruited mercs are well-trained and brutal (think sledgehammer)

Those 30-50K mercs (and their associates and families) are now wearily eyed by the FSB as potential liabilities

You think that's gonna last? I don't.

You’re overstating this.
Mercenaries are only loyal to the source of their paychecks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least Trump and Biden haven't been routinely killing their adversaries. See, there is something good to say about them.

And yet, some of our politicians openly admire Putin and aspire to be like him. Hmmmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. I think you're all missing the significance of this.
Remember that

Prigozhin was Putin's chef, who reported directly to Putin and no one else

It's Putin's shame Prigozhin turned traitor and no one else

Prigozhin was head of Wagner, who recruited extensively in prisons and in major cities

Those recruited mercs are well-trained and brutal (think sledgehammer)

Those 30-50K mercs (and their associates and families) are now wearily eyed by the FSB as potential liabilities

You think that's gonna last? I don't.

You’re overstating this.
Mercenaries are only loyal to the source of their paychecks.

I think the Wagner folks actually were more loyal to P than that. He was one of them (brutal ex-con) and spoke to them. But o don’t know where that leads. Having a lot of angry heavily armed and violent men with no leader is not great for any country. I guess a bunch of them are in Byelorussia now? I don’t see how FSB or anyone takes them out on any systematized way.

I guess it’s possible that Putin did not order the hit and it was like the tsar’s friends taking out Rasputin. Or possible it was the first step in a coup — one would need to eliminate Pirozghin first certainly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Can Putin collect the $250K ?

[Anonymous]

^^ha!

[Anonymous]

As an aside, I feel like Russia is the only country still running a Game of Thrones type governmental system. They basically have reverted back 800 years. Someone over there is thinking chaos is a ladder.

[Anonymous]

Wagner pays more than the Russian Military.

The Wagner Mercs are not going to be happy about being assimilated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wagner pays more than the Russian Military.

The Wagner Mercs are not going to be happy about being assimilated.

It's not just pay -- its the equipment, treatment, everything. One of the big reasons for the coup was that Putin was trying to absorb Prigozhin's people into the military and they were really unhappy about it. Now there are lots of really unhappy, really violent and short tempered, really well armed, experienced killers who feel unmoored and betrayed and who don't have any great career options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not like anyone saw this coming.

And here's predicting Russia calls it "engine failure" or some crap like that. Their "investigation" will be thorough!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. I think you're all missing the significance of this.
Remember that

Prigozhin was Putin's chef, who reported directly to Putin and no one else

It's Putin's shame Prigozhin turned traitor and no one else

Prigozhin was head of Wagner, who recruited extensively in prisons and in major cities

Those recruited mercs are well-trained and brutal (think sledgehammer)

Those 30-50K mercs (and their associates and families) are now wearily eyed by the FSB as potential liabilities

You think that's gonna last? I don't.

The prisioners were treated as cannon fodder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not like anyone saw this coming.

And here's predicting Russia calls it "engine failure" or some crap like that. Their "investigation" will be thorough!!

Yes. The engine failed after the fuel line got clogged from getting a surface-to-air missile stuck in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wagner pays more than the Russian Military.

The Wagner Mercs are not going to be happy about being assimilated.

It's not just pay -- its the equipment, treatment, everything. One of the big reasons for the coup was that Putin was trying to absorb Prigozhin's people into the military and they were really unhappy about it. Now there are lots of really unhappy, really violent and short tempered, really well armed, experienced killers who feel unmoored and betrayed and who don't have any great career options.

Word is they broke camp in Belarus and are in a convoy enroute to Russia. Belarussian special services are trying to intercept them before they reach Russia.

https://news.yahoo.com/national-resistance-center-wagner-convoys-013412382.html