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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

Yes, and being generous, you can also eliminate places 50 and up as they aren't "just missing all stars".

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

Let me guess, everyone who's close swam breaststroke in at least one A meet before Divisionals?

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

Only individual all stars. That’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

Nobody's outing a 6 year old so stop with the hysterics, lady!

Here's the reality - if your kid is swimming A meets in the DMV, the times are a matter of public record, available on the internet. Just because you don't know how to find them doesn't mean they aren't there. If you don't like this, you should find another activity for your kid.

Isn't it interesting that the top 25m freestyle time this summer for a 6yo girl in NVSL, PWSL or MCLS is 21.58 seconds! That's fast!

Not to be outdone, for the 6yo boys in these 3 leagues it's 18.95 seconds which to me is just crazy fast for a 6yo!

There's a lot of info out there on the internet!

Have you even followed this thread? Yes, some posters with far too much time on their hands are trying to find times for a specific under 8 year old and reference them here. No I do not think that’s appropriate. It’s also not practical. We don’t even know which league or even if it’s in the DMV.

Yes, I've followed the thread - it moves quickly but I'm going to need you to pay closer attention and keep up!

If you read everything, you'll know that in this instance, it is DMV, in fact it's NVSL and it's not a 8u it's a 7yo - it a little subtle and you have to read through everything closely but it's all there if you are paying attention! There is also other information one can infer once you look at the data but I'll leave that as an exercise to those so inclined.

Finally, you may need a lot of time on your hand to mine all this information but there are those of us who are comfortable in data sets and it all only takes a couple of minutes if you know what you are looking for, where to look for it and how to filter.

But, back to the point of this thread -- notwithstanding the bragging and fantasy of several posters, OP's 5 and 6 year old are very unlikely to be participating in an A meets or dropping 40 seconds to make divisionals or any other such outlier, atypical nonsense... no, they will be in pre-team like the vast majority of other 5 and 6 year olds and they will hopefully have a lot of fun and make a bunch of new friends in the process.

Well read again. Just because another poster mentioned 7 year old girls in NVSL it doesn’t confirm anything. We still don’t know. Also if you read carefully the original poster about the 7 year old said that she was only swimming A meets in free and back when she had this huge leap. So unless she is in a league that publishes B meet times you won’t be able to verify this online. But carry on your witch hunt.

Based on the rankings just above, it can't be MCSL either. There's no 7 year old girl who came close to breaststroke All Stars based on a big time drop at Divisionals.

Read it again. It was a big time drop the prior week from a B meet. Only six seconds at divisionals.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

Let me guess, everyone who's close swam breaststroke in at least one A meet before Divisionals?

That would still meet the criteria.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

Yes, and being generous, you can also eliminate places 50 and up as they aren't "just missing all stars".

The top 10 were either in All-Stars or reasonably close.

Of those 10, 2 made NVSL All-Stars and 2 more were previously highlighted in this thread as swimming close to their seed times at NVSL Divisionals. The 2 remaining NVSL swimmers in the top 10 also swam close to their A meet times from the week before Divisionals. That leaves 4 MCSL swimmers, including the superstar 7 year old at the top of the list who obviously didn't just figure out how to do breaststroke this month. The other 3 also swam close to their seed times at Divisionals. In a nut shell, that's the reality of incremental improvements once you get near the top of your age group vs. the fantasy of falling out of bed one day and magically becoming a star swimmer.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

Nobody's outing a 6 year old so stop with the hysterics, lady!

Here's the reality - if your kid is swimming A meets in the DMV, the times are a matter of public record, available on the internet. Just because you don't know how to find them doesn't mean they aren't there. If you don't like this, you should find another activity for your kid.

Isn't it interesting that the top 25m freestyle time this summer for a 6yo girl in NVSL, PWSL or MCLS is 21.58 seconds! That's fast!

Not to be outdone, for the 6yo boys in these 3 leagues it's 18.95 seconds which to me is just crazy fast for a 6yo!

There's a lot of info out there on the internet!

Have you even followed this thread? Yes, some posters with far too much time on their hands are trying to find times for a specific under 8 year old and reference them here. No I do not think that’s appropriate. It’s also not practical. We don’t even know which league or even if it’s in the DMV.

Yes, I've followed the thread - it moves quickly but I'm going to need you to pay closer attention and keep up!

If you read everything, you'll know that in this instance, it is DMV, in fact it's NVSL and it's not a 8u it's a 7yo - it a little subtle and you have to read through everything closely but it's all there if you are paying attention! There is also other information one can infer once you look at the data but I'll leave that as an exercise to those so inclined.

Finally, you may need a lot of time on your hand to mine all this information but there are those of us who are comfortable in data sets and it all only takes a couple of minutes if you know what you are looking for, where to look for it and how to filter.

But, back to the point of this thread -- notwithstanding the bragging and fantasy of several posters, OP's 5 and 6 year old are very unlikely to be participating in an A meets or dropping 40 seconds to make divisionals or any other such outlier, atypical nonsense... no, they will be in pre-team like the vast majority of other 5 and 6 year olds and they will hopefully have a lot of fun and make a bunch of new friends in the process.

Well read again. Just because another poster mentioned 7 year old girls in NVSL it doesn’t confirm anything. We still don’t know. Also if you read carefully the original poster about the 7 year old said that she was only swimming A meets in free and back when she had this huge leap. So unless she is in a league that publishes B meet times you won’t be able to verify this online. But carry on your witch hunt.

Based on the rankings just above, it can't be MCSL either. There's no 7 year old girl who came close to breaststroke All Stars based on a big time drop at Divisionals.

Read it again. It was a big time drop the prior week from a B meet. Only six seconds at divisionals.

"Only 6 seconds" you say. None of the top swimmers are dropping 6 seconds in a 25 at Divisionals. Novices maybe, but they aren't close to All-Stars so the story continues to have no basis in reality.

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You realize there are more than two swim leagues, right?

Hope this is entertaining to you, because it's certainly pointless.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

Let me guess, everyone who's close swam breaststroke in at least one A meet before Divisionals?

That would still meet the criteria.

If so we'd be able to see the seed time from the B meet that preceded the big improvement. It doesn't exist in any of the local swim leagues so why are you talking about it in this forum?

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

Only individual all stars. That’s it.

Wrong. Most of those kids on that list are close to being all stars but are not all stars. Unlike some of the other leagues, MCSL only publishes times below a certain cut, known as the nominating time.

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Some kids love it and some kids hate it, so be prepared for that. I was a swim team kid and really loved it as a teen. I tried to make my DS do it for a few seasons and he’s just not into it. A few of his friends did it and they also didn’t enjoy it.
Our pool was really intense and in one of the top divisions, so that might have been why it wasn’t so fun.

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Also, so remind me again, why are we picking apart a seven year old? We should just be happy they made it through without a nose pick or a snack bar meltdown

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Anonymous wrote:Also, so remind me again, why are we picking apart a seven year old? We should just be happy they made it through without a nose pick or a snack bar meltdown

No one is picking apart a 7 year old. As for the poster making up stories about their 7 year old, that's a different story ..

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Anonymous wrote:There was an 8 year old on our team who dropped about 25 seconds in breast stroke over just two weeks, earning a first place in divisionals.

Funny because all the 8&u division winners in our league were posting consistently fast times in the weeks leading up to Divisionals.

If you really took the time to look that up then I can only assume you are in a different league. You also don’t have access to B times because they aren’t publicly available. There are also some kids in divisionals with NT for the stroke in question.

Reachforthewall has the seed times for divisional meets across multiple leagues. The events described above are easily verifiable or refuted. If it really happened, it would be so unusual that it would probably make the Washington Post.

You think it's that extraordinary that a kid dropped 6 seconds at Divisionals as an 8U that you can suss out the data? It's not going to have B meet times for the bigger time drop.

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Those bigger time drops don't exist. The data is all there to show the seed times regardless of where they came from.

No it isn’t. I doubt you can look it up anyway, but what’s being talked about here is a six second drop at divisionals, with a bigger drop in two weeks prior to divisionals. I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league. To verify this you’d have to look at so many different sources you’d have to be nuts to be that obsessive. It’s also on sketchy ethical grounds to publicly identify a 6 year old kid in form like this.

http:// mynvsl.com or http://csl.nvblu.com/, or mcsl.org. What league doesn't publish results?

Read it again: Anywhere other than the PDF. None of the swim ranking websites pull info from those PDFs.

I’ve never seen any of my kid’s A meet times listed and available anywhere but the PDF produced and made available by league.

You realize all of those sites publish results that ARE NOT PDFs, right?

DP. Not true. MCSL certainly doesn’t.

MCSL rankings are most definitely published in non-pdf form. http://mcsl.org/AllStars.aspx

https://reachforthewall.org/event-stats/?as=7&ae=7&l=25&g=F&ops=best&ss=Breast&c=m&ds=Jul%2022%2C%202023&de=Jul%2022%2C%202023&max=100<d=summer

Let me guess, everyone who's close swam breaststroke in at least one A meet before Divisionals?

That would still meet the criteria.

If so we'd be able to see the seed time from the B meet that preceded the big improvement. It doesn't exist in any of the local swim leagues so why are you talking about it in this forum?

No you wouldn’t. B meet times can’t be used in divisionals in at least one area league.