Help! Appeal for MCPS Early Kindergarten

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

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You can still be the smartest and one of the younger students. What kid wants to be 18 all of senior year and be the oldest? Someone hast be the oldest, someone has to be the youngest. In HS, with a lot of elective and math classes, the kids are mixed age anyway. Mine will be in an elective with seniors as a freshman.

What? First of all, your premise is wrong…it was great to be one of the very first ones to turn 18 (and 16, and 21…) - that is pretty universally seen as a great thing.

But also, that’s not what we’re talking about here. OP’s kid would turn 17 at the very beginning of senior year, and wouldn’t turn 18 until she’s already moved into college

It’s not great but you tell yourself that. You are lecturing someone with a September kid. I understand all about it. My kid will turn 18 a few week into college. No big deal.

My nephew repeated second grade with a spring birthday. My sister regrets it. He had a terrible time in HS. Getting his license as a freshman was not a good thing. He wanted so much more freedom than he had in hs as a 19 year old.

Did you…….even read the OP? Yikes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

+1

You can still be the smartest and one of the younger students. What kid wants to be 18 all of senior year and be the oldest? Someone hast be the oldest, someone has to be the youngest. In HS, with a lot of elective and math classes, the kids are mixed age anyway. Mine will be in an elective with seniors as a freshman.

What? First of all, your premise is wrong…it was great to be one of the very first ones to turn 18 (and 16, and 21…) - that is pretty universally seen as a great thing.

But also, that’s not what we’re talking about here. OP’s kid would turn 17 at the very beginning of senior year, and wouldn’t turn 18 until she’s already moved into college

It’s not great but you tell yourself that. You are lecturing someone with a September kid. I understand all about it. My kid will turn 18 a few week into college. No big deal.

My nephew repeated second grade with a spring birthday. My sister regrets it. He had a terrible time in HS. Getting his license as a freshman was not a good thing. He wanted so much more freedom than he had in hs as a 19 year old.

So he was 19 for a month or so with a spring birthday in HS? What a tragedy. Obviously there was more going on in that family than a spring birthday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op, if your child is not even in preK at the moment how could you possibly think they are ready for K. There are kids who have had 3 years of academic preK plus the socialization that comes with that...while your kid has been in a daycare. Seems like you didn't really do a lot of research on this as the kids who are admitted early, as many pps note, are surpassing K expectations and harmed if not allowed to start K. This means they can read well likely and are doing low level maths AND have the social and emotional maturity to keep up.

Day care is the same as preschool.

LOL. No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy you’d be pushing for this. The test (…and the cut-off) exist for a reason. You say you’re “shocked” she didn’t pass the exam and this is “heartbreaking for her continuing education” … respectfully, you need to chill out a lot or you’re going to drive yourself - and everyone else around you - nuts.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

+1

You can still be the smartest and one of the younger students. What kid wants to be 18 all of senior year and be the oldest? Someone hast be the oldest, someone has to be the youngest. In HS, with a lot of elective and math classes, the kids are mixed age anyway. Mine will be in an elective with seniors as a freshman.

What? First of all, your premise is wrong…it was great to be one of the very first ones to turn 18 (and 16, and 21…) - that is pretty universally seen as a great thing.

But also, that’s not what we’re talking about here. OP’s kid would turn 17 at the very beginning of senior year, and wouldn’t turn 18 until she’s already moved into college

It’s not great but you tell yourself that. You are lecturing someone with a September kid. I understand all about it. My kid will turn 18 a few week into college. No big deal.

My nephew repeated second grade with a spring birthday. My sister regrets it. He had a terrible time in HS. Getting his license as a freshman was not a good thing. He wanted so much more freedom than he had in hs as a 19 year old.

Did you…….even read the OP? Yikes.

Yikes! Yes I did. Many people are saying it is better to be older. In this case, it was not better. Obviously, it is just one data point.

[Anonymous]

There is a later cutoff in DC, you may be able to attend tuition to attend. Otherwise, consider a private school.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

+1

You can still be the smartest and one of the younger students. What kid wants to be 18 all of senior year and be the oldest? Someone hast be the oldest, someone has to be the youngest. In HS, with a lot of elective and math classes, the kids are mixed age anyway. Mine will be in an elective with seniors as a freshman.

What? First of all, your premise is wrong…it was great to be one of the very first ones to turn 18 (and 16, and 21…) - that is pretty universally seen as a great thing.

But also, that’s not what we’re talking about here. OP’s kid would turn 17 at the very beginning of senior year, and wouldn’t turn 18 until she’s already moved into college

It’s not great but you tell yourself that. You are lecturing someone with a September kid. I understand all about it. My kid will turn 18 a few week into college. No big deal.

My nephew repeated second grade with a spring birthday. My sister regrets it. He had a terrible time in HS. Getting his license as a freshman was not a good thing. He wanted so much more freedom than he had in hs as a 19 year old.

Did you…….even read the OP? Yikes.

Yikes! Yes I did. Many people are saying it is better to be older. In this case, it was not better. Obviously, it is just one data point.

Being held back is something research has consistently shown to be be harmful to kids. The takeaway from this is that kids should go on time. Not early, not late.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

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Not the smartest just the oldest. Waiting a year does not make you any smarter it just makes you less challenged.

Nope. There are so many ways to challenge students intellectually. Academically talented programs, duel college enrollment, AP classes. Your “smartest in the class” kid won’t be bored in middle/high school, if you find them the right programs, regardless of if they are youngest or oldest. But what you can’t give them or predict at 5, is their maturity and social/emotional needs when they will be a tween/teen. All the kids from college I know that took 5 years to graduate, or changed majors and delayed graduation, or just had harder adjustments where the ones that were 16-17 starting in college. You can always supplement rigorous academics to suit your child, but you can’t supplement maturity. I see zero downside in OP (or anyone) sending her child “on time” and not appealing for early entry.

[Anonymous]

Why do you want to send her early, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you want to send her early, OP?

She doesn’t want to pay for another year or childcare/ preK

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

+1

You can still be the smartest and one of the younger students. What kid wants to be 18 all of senior year and be the oldest? Someone hast be the oldest, someone has to be the youngest. In HS, with a lot of elective and math classes, the kids are mixed age anyway. Mine will be in an elective with seniors as a freshman.

What? First of all, your premise is wrong…it was great to be one of the very first ones to turn 18 (and 16, and 21…) - that is pretty universally seen as a great thing.

But also, that’s not what we’re talking about here. OP’s kid would turn 17 at the very beginning of senior year, and wouldn’t turn 18 until she’s already moved into college

It’s not great but you tell yourself that. You are lecturing someone with a September kid. I understand all about it. My kid will turn 18 a few week into college. No big deal.

My nephew repeated second grade with a spring birthday. My sister regrets it. He had a terrible time in HS. Getting his license as a freshman was not a good thing. He wanted so much more freedom than he had in hs as a 19 year old.

So he was 19 for a month or so with a spring birthday in HS? What a tragedy. Obviously there was more going on in that family than a spring birthday.

Being 19 in high school is not normal except with special needs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you want to send her early, OP?

She doesn’t want to pay for another year or childcare/ preK

Child will be 5. They should go to K. Why pay for an additional year of preK when child should go to K? She is better off paying for a private K vs. preK if MCPS will not allow child to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would want to. It isn’t a rush to finish k-12. Better for her be the smartest in the class than middle of the pack

+1

Not the smartest just the oldest. Waiting a year does not make you any smarter it just makes you less challenged.

Nope. There are so many ways to challenge students intellectually. Academically talented programs, duel college enrollment, AP classes. Your “smartest in the class” kid won’t be bored in middle/high school, if you find them the right programs, regardless of if they are youngest or oldest. But what you can’t give them or predict at 5, is their maturity and social/emotional needs when they will be a tween/teen. All the kids from college I know that took 5 years to graduate, or changed majors and delayed graduation, or just had harder adjustments were the ones that were 16-17 starting in college. You can always supplement rigorous academics to suit your child, but you can’t supplement maturity. I see zero downside in OP (or anyone) sending her child “on time” and not appealing for early entry.

What are you rambling about? In MCPS, in ES, the only thing we got was compacted math and in MS accelerated math. There was no nothing other than that and the curriculum was really bad. You only get AP classes in HS. You cannot predict a child's outcome but holding back doesn't fix anything including maturity. Maturity cannot be sped up or forced and holding back a year with peers a year younger makes them less mature but you artificially think they are more mature as they are the oldest. These kids age-wise don't really fit in anywhere but holding them back isn't the answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you want to send her early, OP?

She doesn’t want to pay for another year of daycare

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you want to send her early, OP?

She doesn’t want to pay for another year or childcare/ preK

Child will be 5. They should go to K. Why pay for an additional year of preK when child should go to K? She is better off paying for a private K vs. preK if MCPS will not allow child to go.

Well, no…by the cutoff, she will not be 5 and she objectively should not be allowed to go, barring extenuating circumstances…which are not present here.