Can we remove the "Special Needs" out of the Forum Index to "Neurodiversity and Disabilities"

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Special needs only has a negative connotation because jerks have historically used it as an insult. I think it's better than "disabilities" which clearly implies a deficit or being less than. I am in favor of reclaiming/embracing "special needs"

There really isn't going to be a better term that includes the same people.


Are you disabled? Because disability rights advocates don't agree with you and prefer the word disability over special needs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disability-pride-month-july-2022/
I think the disability rights community is not a monolith and some prefer using disability.


I haven't seen anything written by a disabled person who prefers "special needs." Can you point to anything?


I'm disabled. The title is fine, IMO. For a while some were using the term "differently abled". I thought that was silly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Special needs only has a negative connotation because jerks have historically used it as an insult. I think it's better than "disabilities" which clearly implies a deficit or being less than. I am in favor of reclaiming/embracing "special needs"

There really isn't going to be a better term that includes the same people.


Are you disabled? Because disability rights advocates don't agree with you and prefer the word disability over special needs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disability-pride-month-july-2022/


And since disabilities is already in the title, they should be satisfied. They can go forward with the knowledge that the special needs part is for others.

See how simple that is.

Forum title is fine as is. The endless loops about this stuff too much. Five minutes later they'll want to change it again.
Anonymous
Special needs is outdated. It’s a terrible term. Kids with disabilities is fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Special needs only has a negative connotation because jerks have historically used it as an insult. I think it's better than "disabilities" which clearly implies a deficit or being less than. I am in favor of reclaiming/embracing "special needs"

There really isn't going to be a better term that includes the same people.


Are you disabled? Because disability rights advocates don't agree with you and prefer the word disability over special needs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disability-pride-month-july-2022/


Yawn.
Anonymous
The current thread title is fine. It's not offensive and it covers a range.
Anonymous
Why do we always have to move away from terms we all understand because someone gets offended. So tired of this "woke" dancing. One of my actually NT and has SN. The other I still consider NT, but some would argue that selective mustism isnt typical because its an anxiety disorder, I don't really care, this forum and the language is descriptive. The kids' needs are SN.
Anonymous
Both of my kids have learning disabilities and invisible disabilities.

The name of the forum is absolutely fine.

And no, this isn’t the right forum for only being gifted. Imagine a post asking for how to get a school to let their 10 years old genius graduate from college while many others in the same forum are worried about their kid making it through high school by 18.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Special needs is outdated. It’s a terrible term. Kids with disabilities is fine.
I disagree that it is outdated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Special needs only has a negative connotation because jerks have historically used it as an insult. I think it's better than "disabilities" which clearly implies a deficit or being less than. I am in favor of reclaiming/embracing "special needs"

There really isn't going to be a better term that includes the same people.


Are you disabled? Because disability rights advocates don't agree with you and prefer the word disability over special needs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disability-pride-month-july-2022/


Disabled people quite often have Special Needs, such as modifications to schooling, therapies, and assistive technology. These needs are specific to particular nature of the disability -- that is: special.
You don't give a walking stick to a sighted deaf person, even the they are disabled, because it it doesn't serve that person's special needs. You do give that person vegetables, because that's a general need.

Special Needs is a noun phrase, not an adjective. A disabled person is not a special needs person. A school has a department or program. for serving the special needs of it's students.

A random person on the street is not an authority. Make decisions based on facts, not miscontextualized quotes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Both of my kids have learning disabilities and invisible disabilities.

The name of the forum is absolutely fine.

And no, this isn’t the right forum for only being gifted. Imagine a post asking for how to get a school to let their 10 years old genius graduate from college while many others in the same forum are worried about their kid making it through high school by 18.



MYOB. You enough to worry about without hurting yourself by being offended by someone else's concerns.
Thickening your skin will pay dividends through your whole life.
Anonymous
I love to see this forum split into “generally functioning but needs help” and a separate one called “disabilities leading to dropping out of society”. I have a lot of trouble taking advice from posters who have gen ed children and can be in normal after school activities. I’m worried about jail and rehab!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about "Children With Truly Unique and Extraordinary Challenges Without Which Their Mothers Would Not Be Spending Thousand of Dollars on Therapies, Books, and Specialists For Said Children"


And the People Who Love Them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both of my kids have learning disabilities and invisible disabilities.

The name of the forum is absolutely fine.

And no, this isn’t the right forum for only being gifted. Imagine a post asking for how to get a school to let their 10 years old genius graduate from college while many others in the same forum are worried about their kid making it through high school by 18.



MYOB. You enough to worry about without hurting yourself by being offended by someone else's concerns.
Thickening your skin will pay dividends through your whole life.


I would not be offended at all. I would see you as you tone deaf, insensitive, and refusing to read the room. You are plenty welcome to post on this forum as it is titled. It would be similar to me posting a question about my teenager’s major life impacting disabilities in the expecting mothers or babies forum but there’s no stopping me from posting there.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not all special needs are neurological in nature, makes zero sense.


But what is so special about "special needs" - it's a terrible term and more and more practitioners, clinicians, and academia are moving away from it.
What about "Kids Needing Extra Supports"


Parents are using it. We don't want to use medical technical term in our everyday life.

Try to use "neurodiversity and disabilities" term during informal conversation and see what people think of you.



NP. Everyone I socialize with would be totally fine with that and wouldn’t miss a beat. I don’t understand what point you are trying to make. I have a cousin who lives in the Midwest and did not happen to go to college. She uses those terms all the time and apparently doesn’t have a hard time with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Special needs only has a negative connotation because jerks have historically used it as an insult. I think it's better than "disabilities" which clearly implies a deficit or being less than. I am in favor of reclaiming/embracing "special needs"

There really isn't going to be a better term that includes the same people.


Are you disabled? Because disability rights advocates don't agree with you and prefer the word disability over special needs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disability-pride-month-july-2022/
I think the disability rights community is not a monolith and some prefer using disability.


I haven't seen anything written by a disabled person who prefers "special needs." Can you point to anything?


I'm disabled. The title is fine, IMO. For a while some were using the term "differently abled". I thought that was silly.


I'm disabled as one of my organs doesn't function. As far as I can tell, none of my other organs are providing me with some ability to make up for it.
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