Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
Yes I remember that time my sister was mugged in Baltimore. The guy taking her wallet told her, verbatim: "I don't want to do this. More than anything I want to live a decent honest life. However, the all powerful and eternally influential forces of red lining that occurred 60 years ago, 45 years before i was born, are literally pulling me out onto the streets and into your neighborhood to force me to rob you. I'm so sorry. Please do something to combat this systemic injustice." And then he punched her in the head. It was crazy.
That sounds like complete BS.
Congrats, your sarcasm detector is (mostly) working.
Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
I couldn't actually understand your point under all that sarcasm. Are you saying there is or isn't a difference in crime two miles north of Gilman?
Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
I couldn't actually understand your point under all that sarcasm. Are you saying there is or isn't a difference in crime two miles north of Gilman?
My point is that serious crime is virtually non-existent in the vicinity of Gilman or Bryn Mawr and that if you're frightened of that area, then your worldview is similar to that of Roland Park's founders who established it as one of the first legally segregated communities in the US - that you live in needless fear and seek to separate yourself from people and areas that you mistakenly perceive as threatening.
I have lived in 21212 for 24 years. I've never had so much as my glove compartment rifled. I've never walked along Northern Parkway because it's terrible, potentially even dangerous, but only because there are maniac drivers everywhere. Also, why would you walk along Northern Parkway when literally one block south there are Frederick Olmstead footpaths, open to the public, winding past multi-million dollar mansions?
In answer to your question, there is no difference in crime 2 miles north of Gilman. There is no difference in crime 2 miles south. But there is a difference 2 miles east, once you get past York Road.
Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
I couldn't actually understand your point under all that sarcasm. Are you saying there is or isn't a difference in crime two miles north of Gilman?
My point is that serious crime is virtually non-existent in the vicinity of Gilman or Bryn Mawr and that if you're frightened of that area, then your worldview is similar to that of Roland Park's founders who established it as one of the first legally segregated communities in the US - that you live in needless fear and seek to separate yourself from people and areas that you mistakenly perceive as threatening.
I have lived in 21212 for 24 years. I've never had so much as my glove compartment rifled. I've never walked along Northern Parkway because it's terrible, potentially even dangerous, but only because there are maniac drivers everywhere. Also, why would you walk along Northern Parkway when literally one block south there are Frederick Olmstead footpaths, open to the public, winding past multi-million dollar mansions?
In answer to your question, there is no difference in crime 2 miles north of Gilman. There is no difference in crime 2 miles south. But there is a difference 2 miles east, once you get past York Road.
Why do you keep talking about segregation and redlining suddenly? Is it because you've been proven wrong and immature on every point, so this is a hail mary to shut everyone else down? It's pretty pathetic and I hope you don't do it in real life because all you're doing is telling on yourself.
Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
I couldn't actually understand your point under all that sarcasm. Are you saying there is or isn't a difference in crime two miles north of Gilman?
My point is that serious crime is virtually non-existent in the vicinity of Gilman or Bryn Mawr and that if you're frightened of that area, then your worldview is similar to that of Roland Park's founders who established it as one of the first legally segregated communities in the US - that you live in needless fear and seek to separate yourself from people and areas that you mistakenly perceive as threatening.
I have lived in 21212 for 24 years. I've never had so much as my glove compartment rifled. I've never walked along Northern Parkway because it's terrible, potentially even dangerous, but only because there are maniac drivers everywhere. Also, why would you walk along Northern Parkway when literally one block south there are Frederick Olmstead footpaths, open to the public, winding past multi-million dollar mansions?
In answer to your question, there is no difference in crime 2 miles north of Gilman. There is no difference in crime 2 miles south. But there is a difference 2 miles east, once you get past York Road.
Your self serving anecdotes are no match for the police statistics showing you're lying. In this house we Trust *clap* The *clap* Science.
You guys do realize there a vast range in-between idyllic/crime-free and the ghetto, right? The Roland park area is neither of these. On the whole, I feel pretty safe there, despite the problems.
Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
I couldn't actually understand your point under all that sarcasm. Are you saying there is or isn't a difference in crime two miles north of Gilman?
My point is that serious crime is virtually non-existent in the vicinity of Gilman or Bryn Mawr and that if you're frightened of that area, then your worldview is similar to that of Roland Park's founders who established it as one of the first legally segregated communities in the US - that you live in needless fear and seek to separate yourself from people and areas that you mistakenly perceive as threatening.
I have lived in 21212 for 24 years. I've never had so much as my glove compartment rifled. I've never walked along Northern Parkway because it's terrible, potentially even dangerous, but only because there are maniac drivers everywhere. Also, why would you walk along Northern Parkway when literally one block south there are Frederick Olmstead footpaths, open to the public, winding past multi-million dollar mansions?
In answer to your question, there is no difference in crime 2 miles north of Gilman. There is no difference in crime 2 miles south. But there is a difference 2 miles east, once you get past York Road.
Why do you keep talking about segregation and redlining suddenly? Is it because you've been proven wrong and immature on every point, so this is a hail mary to shut everyone else down? It's pretty pathetic and I hope you don't do it in real life because all you're doing is telling on yourself.
Somebody in this thread is telling on themselves but it might not be the person you think it is
Can we get back to the OP's question? OP we loved Bryn Mawr when we toured it and are happily sending our DD there next year. But I sure wouldn't pick BMS if I lived as far as you do. I have never heard of Tome School, but if it's a good option near you, I would send my DD there and skip the commute. I wouldn't want my DD sitting on a bus or in the car for a long commute when she could be spending that time socializing, doing homework, or other activities. Skipping the commute will make a world of difference to your lifestyle and the family's stress level.
Anonymous wrote:You're the first person to ever compare Bryn Mawr to Tome. I can't imagine why anyone would look at both schools. If you're in Harford County, the only place where it might be feasible to be able to contemplate either school, there's Harford Day and John Carroll, which are more reliable options than Tome.
If the whole question of whether Bryn Mawr is "worth it" comes down to the schools' ideological stance towards gender matters, then it is definitely on the progressive side. Bryn Mawr's kindness and tolerance is going to be other people's foolish enability and injustice against girls. Like everything else in modern society, the private schools are sorting out on either side of the fault lines and there are other private schools that take a more traditional approach to gender identities, whether directly or indirectly.
County privates tend to be more pragmatic than the city privates. Except Park. You have plenty of options in the Baltimore area, minus Oldfields.
Yes, Harford County. Since you are familiar - Why do you feel Harford Day/John Carroll are better options than Tome? Out of those three, I've heard the most positive things from Tome. The reason we are looking at Tome and Bryn Mawr is simply that we're still early in this process and the financial side of things isn't really a major hurdle one way or the other.
John Carroll is a great school if you want you kid to have a drug problem.
Bryn Mawr is barely in the city. It sit at the edge of Roland Park, the county side. easily accessible from points north of town.
Which is said about every school, public or private.
If finances aren't an issue for OP, then the difference between Tome and a full fledged private like Bryn Mawr is going to be staggering. Quality of facilities, instruction, student body, the overall campus atmosphere. You'd want to visit all the schools and see for yourself.
Commuting from Harford to the Baltimore area schools is going to be rough. It's possible McDonogh may run a bus out to Harford. I'd also look at the Saint Pauls schools as they're right off the beltway. If you can't move closer in, then I'd probably look closely at Harford Day as a long established option that has sent graduates to the Baltimore area schools for HS. I know very little about Tome other than it is a resurrection of a much older boarding school that closed during the Depression. The only connection is the name.
There's a bus at the Fallston Park and Ride that goes to the city privates. I personally would worry about sending my young children on a 45 minute bus ride into Baltimore City. I mean, I assume they take good care of the kids and all, but jeez.
Is this a joke? Have you never been to the North Baltimore private schools? The biggest danger is your kid being run over by a Mercedes suv.
Roland Park et al are not even remotely safe areas. Those campuses are not exactly locked down either. I don't know where exactly the bus drop off would be, but you have a strange sense of what is safe if those areas seem ok to you. Especially in 2023.
You are either a troll or certifiably insane. Maybe both.
For those who re rational, the bus drops off the students at each school, as one would expect.
Haha every Baltimore thread we have you nutters come out of the woodwork and insist the city is safe. Last time I remember someone posted current footage in real time of drug addicts and homeless on the street perpendicular to Bryn Mawr
Definitely going with a troll.
Yeah, because everyone knows Baltimore is super safe. That's for sure the common wisdom. And the criminal stats support your case too! You're definitely not engaged in willful self deceit.
I love walking along Northern Parkway at night with the kids!
I know people who live on Northern Parkway a few blocks from Bryn Mawr. I have no idea what you're trying to allege. Actually, I do, but it makes no sense and only shows that you know nothing about Baltimore.
I live in the burbs and very cognizant of the many problems plaguing Baltimore but your ranting posts about lack of safety around Bryn Mawr is ridiculous. The North Baltimore neighborhoods surrounding the campus are handsome, safe, and lovely.
I live in the burbs too, but when I went to a gilman football game last fall, there were 100% drug addicts from the street in attendance. They just walked in and stood at the fence around the field to watch and cheer for the game. I know and respect all these schools, but there isn't a moat separating you from the rest of the city or anything. You have to be aware and conscious of that.
Obviously this never happened. But even if it did, what’s your problem with drug addicts having a good time at a football game like anyone else?
The only crime taking place on Roland Avenue is the price gouging that Eddie’s engages in
I kind of low-key want to meet this person who wouldn't be bothered by a manic drug addict shouting in the end zone at a Gilman football game and who thinks there is no crime in the 21210 or 21212. Is this the same person who takes leisure walks up and down the cesspool that is Northern Parkway? If so, I have a bridge I want to sell you ...
and as I said before, I have a lot of respect for these schools, but these areas of Baltimore are crime prone in a way that neighborhoods even two miles north of there are not. And I say this as a resident, someone who loves the architecture, a runner who routinely traverses the many roads of the city, is raising their children here, blah blah. I don't live my life in fear, but I have a normal and healthy respect for the criminals and the insane drivers on Northern Parkway.
You know if only there were some way to keep criminals in "these areas of Baltimore," some kind of red lines or something, a way to legally ensure that areas even two miles away were kept separate. Equal, of course! What kind of person do you think I am? But definitely separate
I couldn't actually understand your point under all that sarcasm. Are you saying there is or isn't a difference in crime two miles north of Gilman?
My point is that serious crime is virtually non-existent in the vicinity of Gilman or Bryn Mawr and that if you're frightened of that area, then your worldview is similar to that of Roland Park's founders who established it as one of the first legally segregated communities in the US - that you live in needless fear and seek to separate yourself from people and areas that you mistakenly perceive as threatening.
I have lived in 21212 for 24 years. I've never had so much as my glove compartment rifled. I've never walked along Northern Parkway because it's terrible, potentially even dangerous, but only because there are maniac drivers everywhere. Also, why would you walk along Northern Parkway when literally one block south there are Frederick Olmstead footpaths, open to the public, winding past multi-million dollar mansions?
In answer to your question, there is no difference in crime 2 miles north of Gilman. There is no difference in crime 2 miles south. But there is a difference 2 miles east, once you get past York Road.
Why do you keep talking about segregation and redlining suddenly? Is it because you've been proven wrong and immature on every point, so this is a hail mary to shut everyone else down? It's pretty pathetic and I hope you don't do it in real life because all you're doing is telling on yourself.
Somebody in this thread is telling on themselves but it might not be the person you think it is
Haha yeah ok Mrs. "If you hate crime that means you hate black people."
Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to the OP's question? OP we loved Bryn Mawr when we toured it and are happily sending our DD there next year. But I sure wouldn't pick BMS if I lived as far as you do. I have never heard of Tome School, but if it's a good option near you, I would send my DD there and skip the commute. I wouldn't want my DD sitting on a bus or in the car for a long commute when she could be spending that time socializing, doing homework, or other activities. Skipping the commute will make a world of difference to your lifestyle and the family's stress level.
OP here, thanks! The recommendation someone made earlier was for St. James Academy, which may be worth pursuing. Maybe we will look at Bryn Mawr again for high school and see if the commute makes any more sense then.
Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to the OP's question? OP we loved Bryn Mawr when we toured it and are happily sending our DD there next year. But I sure wouldn't pick BMS if I lived as far as you do. I have never heard of Tome School, but if it's a good option near you, I would send my DD there and skip the commute. I wouldn't want my DD sitting on a bus or in the car for a long commute when she could be spending that time socializing, doing homework, or other activities. Skipping the commute will make a world of difference to your lifestyle and the family's stress level.
OP here, thanks! The recommendation someone made earlier was for St. James Academy, which may be worth pursuing. Maybe we will look at Bryn Mawr again for high school and see if the commute makes any more sense then.
What grade is your DD? They get busier in high school and that extra time is probably going to be even more important then.
Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to the OP's question? OP we loved Bryn Mawr when we toured it and are happily sending our DD there next year. But I sure wouldn't pick BMS if I lived as far as you do. I have never heard of Tome School, but if it's a good option near you, I would send my DD there and skip the commute. I wouldn't want my DD sitting on a bus or in the car for a long commute when she could be spending that time socializing, doing homework, or other activities. Skipping the commute will make a world of difference to your lifestyle and the family's stress level.
OP here, thanks! The recommendation someone made earlier was for St. James Academy, which may be worth pursuing. Maybe we will look at Bryn Mawr again for high school and see if the commute makes any more sense then.
What grade is your DD? They get busier in high school and that extra time is probably going to be even more important then.
4 years old, which is why I don't even know all the schools within a 30 minute drive. But yeah I see what you mean... I expect we'll move sometime in the next decade though so who knows.
Anonymous wrote:Are you open to Catholic schools? Where exactly do you live? I am assuming Harford County. How about Harford Day?
We toured Harford Day and were just not impressed. I suppose if push came to shove and there were no other options we would give it a second look. In my opinion it was nothing more than a middling quality public school. This was obviously disappointing since it's the most convenient option.
Not particularly open to Catholic schools honestly. Although I am aware there are ample Catholic and otherwise religious schools in the area.
I recommended St James and have DD at BMS. Agree coming into city is very difficult commute for 4 year old. St James is a lovely school - we know lots of kids who have come from there - they have good placement - and there’s a lot to like about the k-8 model. Glad suggestion was helpful!