Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You have a very weird definition of woods, lady. Are you from New York? Only a New Yorker would call that woods.

It's clearly woods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.

Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.

I agree that police are over militarized but the comparison to Europe misses the point that most Europeans are unarmed. WE have a public that is armed to the teeth. So what do you do when you have an armed assailant who is an immediate threat to the general public?
There is a difference between the police violence of unarmed individuals who are, in many cases, pulled over for minor, if not made up, traffic stops and executed. Or individuals who are clearly in mental health crises. Save your energy defending those guys. This guy shot in Tysons was clearly in the middle of a crime. He's not the one who deserved saving.

Most Americans are unarmed. Most Europeans are unarmed, but not all. Not all American criminals are armed.

So you're saying that shoplifters deserve to be shot? That's....astonishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.

Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.

I agree that police are over militarized but the comparison to Europe misses the point that most Europeans are unarmed. WE have a public that is armed to the teeth. So what do you do when you have an armed assailant who is an immediate threat to the general public?
There is a difference between the police violence of unarmed individuals who are, in many cases, pulled over for minor, if not made up, traffic stops and executed. Or individuals who are clearly in mental health crises. Save your energy defending those guys. This guy shot in Tysons was clearly in the middle of a crime. He's not the one who deserved saving.

Most Americans are unarmed. Most Europeans are unarmed, but not all. Not all American criminals are armed.

So you're saying that shoplifters deserve to be shot? That's....astonishing.

No they don't deserve to be shot. Every criminal should be glorified like George Floyd. Police should be prosecuted, and we should turn Tysons into Portland or Philadelphia. That is the ultimate goal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.

Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.

In another countries they are arrested and prosecuted. In Fairfax county ran by democrat commonwealth attorney, they released back to the streets. In another states they are glorified and made a heroes, like Floyd.

Even your poor writing skills show your lack of intellectual capacity, no need to point out the fallacy of what you said. Please don't bother to come back and whine about English not being your first language. It's not mine either, hence my post about European countries.

Thank you for coming hear and expressing your highly intellectual opinion on my intellectual capacity. I don't know how I would live without it. Congratulations on your superior English skills, it does indeed gives you authority to evaluate intellectual capacity of non-English speaking immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live near Tysons. The cop made the right decision.

If you live in Tysons, you should know that the cop will be prosecuted for murder.

[Anonymous]

IT’S THE GUNS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live near Tysons. The cop made the right decision.

If you live in Tysons, you should know that the cop will be prosecuted for murder.

As the law may require, if we’re being honest.

[Anonymous]

They need to disconnect the Silver line metro.

[Anonymous]

Thank god we are not taking a soft stance on crime out here in nova. Keep that sh*t in DC and Maryland. In DC the mayor's office and DA probably would have thrown a party for the guy after he got back home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live near Tysons. The cop made the right decision.

If you live in Tysons, you should know that the cop will be prosecuted for murder.

As the law may require, if we’re being honest.

They need to defund more police in Northern Virginia. People has been livingg in a big comfortable bubble there. We are already seeing more homeless on the intersections, tents in the woods along NoVa trails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.

Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.

I agree that police are over militarized but the comparison to Europe misses the point that most Europeans are unarmed. WE have a public that is armed to the teeth. So what do you do when you have an armed assailant who is an immediate threat to the general public?
There is a difference between the police violence of unarmed individuals who are, in many cases, pulled over for minor, if not made up, traffic stops and executed. Or individuals who are clearly in mental health crises. Save your energy defending those guys. This guy shot in Tysons was clearly in the middle of a crime. He's not the one who deserved saving.

Most Americans are unarmed. Most Europeans are unarmed, but not all. Not all American criminals are armed.

So you're saying that shoplifters deserve to be shot? That's....astonishing.

I’m different poster.

I agree if he had a weapon, or threatened the police, he deserved to be shot!

I don’t want my kids at the mall if there are armed criminals there that can do them harm.

If he was just running away and was not armed, then yes, his death was a sad occurrence. But it’s not like the cops walked up to him and shot a innocent person for no reason. As a parent, I’m glad he was killed if he threatened innocent people. I don’t want my kid in a body bag because the police did not do their job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You have a very weird definition of woods, lady. Are you from New York? Only a New Yorker would call that woods.

From FairfaxNow:

(Updated at 9:50 p.m.) A man has died after being shot by police outside of Tysons Corner Center mall.

Frantic police radio transmissions went out around 6:30 p.m., for mall-based Tysons Urban Team officers following a suspect in the parking lot outside of Bloomingdale’s. The suspect then reportedly entered the woods along Fashion Blvd, after which officers radioed that gunshots had been fired.

While we're being pedantic, I'd just note that the proper use of the plural in this instance is "wood" and not "woods."

Should read "the suspect then reportedly entered the wood along Fashion Blvd." Not "woods."

You know, since people are being so particular about what matters and all.

[Anonymous]

But how does the woods identify? Do they identify as wood/it/its or woods/they/theirs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank god we are not taking a soft stance on crime out here in nova. Keep that sh*t in DC and Maryland. In DC the mayor's office and DA probably would have thrown a party for the guy after he got back home

+1

Over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so just theft? They absolutely had to hunt him down and kill him?

At this point, good. Tysons has been plagued with shootings, thefts, fights, etc. for the past 2 years. I hope this incident will deter the criminals who are now coming in droves to commit acts of violence at the mall. I go there with my family. I will not mourn the loss of another criminal who tried to rob the mall and put innocent lives in danger. He made his choice. And it turned out to be a very bad one.

I get that you're concerned about safety. But do you understand that shoplifting shouldn't result in an execution?

Being shot while resisting arrest is not “an execution.” Committing crimes and fleeing from the police is an inherently risky thing to do, as in the chaos of such events it’s quite foreseeable that the police can believe themselves threatened and need to take action. Obviously what the bodycam footage shows is important here.

Yes, that pretty much is.

~reasoning needed~ If you can’t see the difference between killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in the context of a struggle caused by the decedent’s own wrongful conduct, there is no helping you. I wouldn’t even bother to respond, except this view is quite dangerous and is causing significant problems. It’s a fully generalized argument against policing: because it’s too dangerous for the criminals, the cops shouldn’t pursue suspects or try to subdue those resisting arrest. The implication of this is that people just need to accept a vastly higher property crime rate than they are comfortable with. That won’t work and it won’t end well.

+1

Agree. Criminals are coming to Tysons thinking they won't be pursued after a crime. Thankfully, their thinking is incorrect. Kids should be able to hang out at the mall without worrying about more criminals infiltrating the mall. Remember when a mall was a safe place to be with your friends?