Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where is Ed Clarke, MCPS's Chief Safety Officer?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=40337

He has not uttered a peep or public statement in the midst of this fentanyl and student discipline crisis. Why does he hold this position if he chooses to remain silent?

+1 There’s now 11 overdoses IN MCPS schools which has been described as a crisis by local media outlets. This is a school safety issue and there should be measures to stop the sale and use of drugs in school.

They are not getting the drugs at school.

But they are using at school. And that's why we're advocating needs to be interrupted and prevented.

You mean like locking bathrooms, educating kids on “One pill can Kill”, holding community events, and partnering on the MoCo goes Purple public health campaign?

Locking bathrooms doesn't prevent anything. It just punishes non-using kids.

The awareness and education tactics are nice but don't catch and prevent substance abuse in real time.

But you knew that already. Go play somewhere else, troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are in a Bethesda-area high school and middle school. We received alerts to talk to our kids about fentanyl-laced pills, especially the ones that look like candies - just one pill can kill you. MCPS has drug and substance abuse awareness programs for students every year, which are very informative. I have personally warned my children never to take pill-shaped items from someone else in or out of school without verifying with me. My son has ADHD meds that he sometimes has to carry on his person, in the original prescription bottle, and he knows exactly what the markings are and how many he has.

I know you created this thread to blame MCPS for everything, but I'm addressing the readers: MCPS can't detect pills. Metal detectors don't work in this situation. Strip and body cavity searching is not in the cards. What do you want MCPS to do that they are not already doing?

Fentanyl is a societal problem, and needs to be addressed at the national level. Drugs streaming across the border are as urgent a conversation as gun control, and indeed are linked to guns and trafficking.

Talk to your kids. Listen to them. Build trust from a young age.

You should expect more out of life than this. When i was in high school, I was called to the office because a teacher in the hallway saw me give my friend Tylenol for a headache. Of course I showed them the pills and the matter was cleared up immediately, but if I had refused, I would have been held in the office until my parents arrived.

Our schools are unmanageable Not because of any other reason than that they are too large and underfunded. There are too many students in the hallways for teachers to over see who is doing what. There aren't enough security guards for the THOUSANDS of students in each building. This isn't the board of educations mistake. This is the mistake of the county government who would rather cram as many bodies into as few schools as possible than to build another school. Another school means less housing which means less tax dollars for them.

Every problem leads back to the source- the schools are too big and understaffed.

Too bad you can’t tell fentanyl laced pills from non fentanyl laced pills on sight alone. Further, you were called into the office because the teacher caught you. What about all the times you or others weren’t caught??? This is why educating kids, families and the communities is one of the biggest things that MCPS can do and is doing. This is why them working with MCPD is so important so they can trace the source. Schools are understaffed and overcrowded.

Why are your kids taking pills from other kids is the bigger issue?

You realize that kids do stupid things that their parents warn them not to do all the time, right? You realize kids do things they shouldn't do to fit in. Or because friends peer pressure them to.

I know you're not this oblivious. Or if you are, I have no idea how you survived your own teenage years, much less are raising teens yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are in a Bethesda-area high school and middle school. We received alerts to talk to our kids about fentanyl-laced pills, especially the ones that look like candies - just one pill can kill you. MCPS has drug and substance abuse awareness programs for students every year, which are very informative. I have personally warned my children never to take pill-shaped items from someone else in or out of school without verifying with me. My son has ADHD meds that he sometimes has to carry on his person, in the original prescription bottle, and he knows exactly what the markings are and how many he has.

I know you created this thread to blame MCPS for everything, but I'm addressing the readers: MCPS can't detect pills. Metal detectors don't work in this situation. Strip and body cavity searching is not in the cards. What do you want MCPS to do that they are not already doing?

Fentanyl is a societal problem, and needs to be addressed at the national level. Drugs streaming across the border are as urgent a conversation as gun control, and indeed are linked to guns and trafficking.

Talk to your kids. Listen to them. Build trust from a young age.

You should expect more out of life than this. When i was in high school, I was called to the office because a teacher in the hallway saw me give my friend Tylenol for a headache. Of course I showed them the pills and the matter was cleared up immediately, but if I had refused, I would have been held in the office until my parents arrived.

Our schools are unmanageable Not because of any other reason than that they are too large and underfunded. There are too many students in the hallways for teachers to over see who is doing what. There aren't enough security guards for the THOUSANDS of students in each building. This isn't the board of educations mistake. This is the mistake of the county government who would rather cram as many bodies into as few schools as possible than to build another school. Another school means less housing which means less tax dollars for them.

Every problem leads back to the source- the schools are too big and understaffed.

Agreed. Our schools are too big and understaffed. THAT is the problem.

Our county leaders have allowed unchecked overdevelopment, without pushing for the appropriate infrastructure. Our schools can’t keep up with the influx of students. Problems follow.

This is a huge problem because they keep putting more kids in the same schools. The county and MCPS gave away so much land that they should have built new schools on. They should limit HS to 1500-2000 students max.

MCPS is currently, right now, building two new high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is Ed Clarke, MCPS's Chief Safety Officer?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=40337

He has not uttered a peep or public statement in the midst of this fentanyl and student discipline crisis. Why does he hold this position if he chooses to remain silent?

+1 There’s now 11 overdoses IN MCPS schools which has been described as a crisis by local media outlets. This is a school safety issue and there should be measures to stop the sale and use of drugs in school.

They are not getting the drugs at school.

But they are using at school. And that's why we're advocating needs to be interrupted and prevented.

You mean like locking bathrooms, educating kids on “One pill can Kill”, holding community events, and partnering on the MoCo goes Purple public health campaign?

Locking bathrooms doesn't prevent anything. It just punishes non-using kids.

The awareness and education tactics are nice but don't catch and prevent substance abuse in real time.

But you knew that already. Go play somewhere else, troll.

You specifically said using at school needs to be interrupted, where do you think this using is occurring?? Nothing catches or interrupts substance abuse in real time. Abuse by its very definition is repeated use. It’s interrupted when someone notices said abuse, usually by finding stashes of drugs and/or behavior changes. Further in schools with 1500-2700 kids, what do you think is going to be introduced to monitor every kid so as to ensure no one ever does drugs, while not violate a kids civil rights and privacy?

No one in MCPS wants to see kids OD, but the amount of kids who this has happened to vs the amount of kids in the school system is minuscule. So yes public education and awareness of the risk and having it repeated at home as well can actually be very helpful in 1) preventing kids from using, 2) peer influence, 3)teaching kids and community how to respond, and 4) coaching people to be reporters of drug activity.

Seems you need to think through this all before just complaining with no ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are in a Bethesda-area high school and middle school. We received alerts to talk to our kids about fentanyl-laced pills, especially the ones that look like candies - just one pill can kill you. MCPS has drug and substance abuse awareness programs for students every year, which are very informative. I have personally warned my children never to take pill-shaped items from someone else in or out of school without verifying with me. My son has ADHD meds that he sometimes has to carry on his person, in the original prescription bottle, and he knows exactly what the markings are and how many he has.

I know you created this thread to blame MCPS for everything, but I'm addressing the readers: MCPS can't detect pills. Metal detectors don't work in this situation. Strip and body cavity searching is not in the cards. What do you want MCPS to do that they are not already doing?

Fentanyl is a societal problem, and needs to be addressed at the national level. Drugs streaming across the border are as urgent a conversation as gun control, and indeed are linked to guns and trafficking.

Talk to your kids. Listen to them. Build trust from a young age.

You should expect more out of life than this. When i was in high school, I was called to the office because a teacher in the hallway saw me give my friend Tylenol for a headache. Of course I showed them the pills and the matter was cleared up immediately, but if I had refused, I would have been held in the office until my parents arrived.

Our schools are unmanageable Not because of any other reason than that they are too large and underfunded. There are too many students in the hallways for teachers to over see who is doing what. There aren't enough security guards for the THOUSANDS of students in each building. This isn't the board of educations mistake. This is the mistake of the county government who would rather cram as many bodies into as few schools as possible than to build another school. Another school means less housing which means less tax dollars for them.

Every problem leads back to the source- the schools are too big and understaffed.

Too bad you can’t tell fentanyl laced pills from non fentanyl laced pills on sight alone. Further, you were called into the office because the teacher caught you. What about all the times you or others weren’t caught??? This is why educating kids, families and the communities is one of the biggest things that MCPS can do and is doing. This is why them working with MCPD is so important so they can trace the source. Schools are understaffed and overcrowded.

Why are your kids taking pills from other kids is the bigger issue?

You realize that kids do stupid things that their parents warn them not to do all the time, right? You realize kids do things they shouldn't do to fit in. Or because friends peer pressure them to.

I know you're not this oblivious. Or if you are, I have no idea how you survived your own teenage years, much less are raising teens yourself.

But yet some on this thread expect MCPS to be able to prevent what parents could not.

[Anonymous]

Get some perspective. The problem is *fentanyl* and it is a national problem. None of this existed when we were in school so those memories are completely irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are in a Bethesda-area high school and middle school. We received alerts to talk to our kids about fentanyl-laced pills, especially the ones that look like candies - just one pill can kill you. MCPS has drug and substance abuse awareness programs for students every year, which are very informative. I have personally warned my children never to take pill-shaped items from someone else in or out of school without verifying with me. My son has ADHD meds that he sometimes has to carry on his person, in the original prescription bottle, and he knows exactly what the markings are and how many he has.

I know you created this thread to blame MCPS for everything, but I'm addressing the readers: MCPS can't detect pills. Metal detectors don't work in this situation. Strip and body cavity searching is not in the cards. What do you want MCPS to do that they are not already doing?

Fentanyl is a societal problem, and needs to be addressed at the national level. Drugs streaming across the border are as urgent a conversation as gun control, and indeed are linked to guns and trafficking.

Talk to your kids. Listen to them. Build trust from a young age.

You should expect more out of life than this. When i was in high school, I was called to the office because a teacher in the hallway saw me give my friend Tylenol for a headache. Of course I showed them the pills and the matter was cleared up immediately, but if I had refused, I would have been held in the office until my parents arrived.

Our schools are unmanageable Not because of any other reason than that they are too large and underfunded. There are too many students in the hallways for teachers to over see who is doing what. There aren't enough security guards for the THOUSANDS of students in each building. This isn't the board of educations mistake. This is the mistake of the county government who would rather cram as many bodies into as few schools as possible than to build another school. Another school means less housing which means less tax dollars for them.

Every problem leads back to the source- the schools are too big and understaffed.

Too bad you can’t tell fentanyl laced pills from non fentanyl laced pills on sight alone. Further, you were called into the office because the teacher caught you. What about all the times you or others weren’t caught??? This is why educating kids, families and the communities is one of the biggest things that MCPS can do and is doing. This is why them working with MCPD is so important so they can trace the source. Schools are understaffed and overcrowded.

Teachers had no idea what if they even were pulls. The point went way over your head. The point was that the student body wasn't so dense and overcrowded that it was impossible to keep tabs on strange behaviors like reaching in your pocket and passing something to another student. We also had teacher's and security drop into the bathrooms when they saw "the usual suspects" heading in there. Back then it was for a cigarette or a joint. Now there are way too many bodies crammed in these enormous buildings. It's gone too far and no one is holding the planning commissions accountable. This is entirely the fault of the county "leaders" who care about nothing more than more tax dollars which means more residences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are in a Bethesda-area high school and middle school. We received alerts to talk to our kids about fentanyl-laced pills, especially the ones that look like candies - just one pill can kill you. MCPS has drug and substance abuse awareness programs for students every year, which are very informative. I have personally warned my children never to take pill-shaped items from someone else in or out of school without verifying with me. My son has ADHD meds that he sometimes has to carry on his person, in the original prescription bottle, and he knows exactly what the markings are and how many he has.

I know you created this thread to blame MCPS for everything, but I'm addressing the readers: MCPS can't detect pills. Metal detectors don't work in this situation. Strip and body cavity searching is not in the cards. What do you want MCPS to do that they are not already doing?

Fentanyl is a societal problem, and needs to be addressed at the national level. Drugs streaming across the border are as urgent a conversation as gun control, and indeed are linked to guns and trafficking.

Talk to your kids. Listen to them. Build trust from a young age.

You should expect more out of life than this. When i was in high school, I was called to the office because a teacher in the hallway saw me give my friend Tylenol for a headache. Of course I showed them the pills and the matter was cleared up immediately, but if I had refused, I would have been held in the office until my parents arrived.

Our schools are unmanageable Not because of any other reason than that they are too large and underfunded. There are too many students in the hallways for teachers to over see who is doing what. There aren't enough security guards for the THOUSANDS of students in each building. This isn't the board of educations mistake. This is the mistake of the county government who would rather cram as many bodies into as few schools as possible than to build another school. Another school means less housing which means less tax dollars for them.

Every problem leads back to the source- the schools are too big and understaffed.

Agreed. Our schools are too big and understaffed. THAT is the problem.

Our county leaders have allowed unchecked overdevelopment, without pushing for the appropriate infrastructure. Our schools can’t keep up with the influx of students. Problems follow.

This is a huge problem because they keep putting more kids in the same schools. The county and MCPS gave away so much land that they should have built new schools on. They should limit HS to 1500-2000 students max.

MCPS is currently, right now, building two new high schools.

and how many students will be crammed in there? They are building 2 measly schools to house the thousands of new development they have allowed PLUS the new housing that's been approved already. Give me a break.

[Anonymous]

Incompetent BOE and MCPS.

We have schools approaching 3000 students in HS.


There is no accountability when it comes to MCPS and BOE.

2K capacity, and it became,

2.1K - no problem for BOE
2.2K - No problem
2.3K - No problem
2.4K - No problem
2,5K - No problem
2.6K - No problem
2.7K - No Problem
..
..
..
Ah it will cross 3K, lets do something about it. Buch of idiots running MCPS.

Anyone who has in past put stamp on projections that schools won't be over crowded should be either fired or never given such critical jobs.

Passing the buck on some random county XYZ department that they did projection and we simply followed them is just criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Incompetent BOE and MCPS.

We have schools approaching 3000 students in HS.


There is no accountability when it comes to MCPS and BOE.

2K capacity, and it became,

2.1K - no problem for BOE
2.2K - No problem
2.3K - No problem
2.4K - No problem
2,5K - No problem
2.6K - No problem
2.7K - No Problem
..
..
..
Ah it will cross 3K, lets do something about it. Buch of idiots running MCPS.

Anyone who has in past put stamp on projections that schools won't be over crowded should be either fired or never given such critical jobs.

Passing the buck on some random county XYZ department that they did projection and we simply followed them is just criminal.

Definitely a problem. Again, I think it’s a sign that MCPS is simply too large.

Nobody is ever held accountable and our kids suffer because of it. Developers are raking in the cash though! And looking ahead to the Thrive program that was recently pushed through. We have even more overcrowded schools to look forward to in the next decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Incompetent BOE and MCPS.

We have schools approaching 3000 students in HS.


There is no accountability when it comes to MCPS and BOE.

2K capacity, and it became,

2.1K - no problem for BOE
2.2K - No problem
2.3K - No problem
2.4K - No problem
2,5K - No problem
2.6K - No problem
2.7K - No Problem
..
..
..
Ah it will cross 3K, lets do something about it. Buch of idiots running MCPS.

Anyone who has in past put stamp on projections that schools won't be over crowded should be either fired or never given such critical jobs.

Passing the buck on some random county XYZ department that they did projection and we simply followed them is just criminal.

Its funny there are colleges smaller than MCPS high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Incompetent BOE and MCPS.

We have schools approaching 3000 students in HS.


There is no accountability when it comes to MCPS and BOE.

2K capacity, and it became,

2.1K - no problem for BOE
2.2K - No problem
2.3K - No problem
2.4K - No problem
2,5K - No problem
2.6K - No problem
2.7K - No Problem
..
..
..
Ah it will cross 3K, lets do something about it. Buch of idiots running MCPS.

Anyone who has in past put stamp on projections that schools won't be over crowded should be either fired or never given such critical jobs.

Passing the buck on some random county XYZ department that they did projection and we simply followed them is just criminal.

Its funny there are colleges smaller than MCPS high schools.

Only solution is a county wide re-districting effort to allocate kids and resources equitably. Too bad the pandemic derailed the last attempt. If we are able to mix more of the haves with the have nots, this wouldn’t be an issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Incompetent BOE and MCPS.

We have schools approaching 3000 students in HS.


There is no accountability when it comes to MCPS and BOE.

2K capacity, and it became,

2.1K - no problem for BOE
2.2K - No problem
2.3K - No problem
2.4K - No problem
2,5K - No problem
2.6K - No problem
2.7K - No Problem
..
..
..
Ah it will cross 3K, lets do something about it. Buch of idiots running MCPS.

Anyone who has in past put stamp on projections that schools won't be over crowded should be either fired or never given such critical jobs.

Passing the buck on some random county XYZ department that they did projection and we simply followed them is just criminal.

Its funny there are colleges smaller than MCPS high schools.

Only solution is a county wide re-districting effort to allocate kids and resources equitably. Too bad the pandemic derailed the last attempt. If we are able to mix more of the haves with the have nots, this wouldn’t be an issue

What wouldn’t be an issue, drug use or overcrowding? Because drug use would still be an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Incompetent BOE and MCPS.

We have schools approaching 3000 students in HS.


There is no accountability when it comes to MCPS and BOE.

2K capacity, and it became,

2.1K - no problem for BOE
2.2K - No problem
2.3K - No problem
2.4K - No problem
2,5K - No problem
2.6K - No problem
2.7K - No Problem
..
..
..
Ah it will cross 3K, lets do something about it. Buch of idiots running MCPS.

Anyone who has in past put stamp on projections that schools won't be over crowded should be either fired or never given such critical jobs.

Passing the buck on some random county XYZ department that they did projection and we simply followed them is just criminal.

Its funny there are colleges smaller than MCPS high schools.

Only solution is a county wide re-districting effort to allocate kids and resources equitably. Too bad the pandemic derailed the last attempt. If we are able to mix more of the haves with the have nots, this wouldn’t be an issue

So diversity busing is the answer to all of MCPS' problems? Interesting idea.

[Anonymous]

Did OP post the same thing last week complaining about taxes and MCPS being a hell hole of drug use? And we all posted the same things in response? I’ve been out of the country and off DCUM for a few days ….l