Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's like a dozen topics on this board about this issue, so I don't know why you're acting like no one is talking about it or not outraged.

You should probably just not click on this thread. It is pretty obvious from the title what the thread is about. Why click on it if you don't want to see another thread about it?

I didn't say I don't want to see another thread about it.

But there quite literally is a thread in this exact tone and complaint that tax dollars are going to waste because MCPS is a shit show right here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1108199.page

I'm just saying, don't be redundant and don't act like you're the first person to notice there's an issue, which was the tone and posture of the OP.

The OP posted two new links with first-hand accounts of what is going on with regards to drugs in MCPS schools. I found it interesting.

There were definitely people on the other thread saying it was an over-reaction to complain about a drug problem at MCPS schools. The OP is simply providing more evidence to back up the claim that drugs are a real and prevalent problem in MCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's like a dozen topics on this board about this issue, so I don't know why you're acting like no one is talking about it or not outraged.

You should probably just not click on this thread. It is pretty obvious from the title what the thread is about. Why click on it if you don't want to see another thread about it?

I didn't say I don't want to see another thread about it.

But there quite literally is a thread in this exact tone and complaint that tax dollars are going to waste because MCPS is a shit show right here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1108199.page

I'm just saying, don't be redundant and don't act like you're the first person to notice there's an issue, which was the tone and posture of the OP.

The OP posted two new links with first-hand accounts of what is going on with regards to drugs in MCPS schools. I found it interesting.

There were definitely people on the other thread saying it was an over-reaction to complain about a drug problem at MCPS schools. The OP is simply providing more evidence to back up the claim that drugs are a real and prevalent problem in MCPS schools.

Again, the information OP posted was posted in various other threads, so it wasn't new info. But anyway, enjoy the thread and maybe follow your own advice about skipping past topics/convos that you don't find valuable.

BYE!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

I think they're posting from an alternative reality using alternative facts.

What are the alternative facts? The fact is that drug use at school is a huge problem in MCPS. Why is that? What can we do about drug use at school, even in kids as young as 5th grade?

Yes, it's a problem everywhere but not exclusive to MCPS. It's a bigger problem for society at large. At our school I guess there are some kids who are into this but that's not really a school problem. It has more to do with their values and family life which we can't legislate.

Oh, so it's only kids whose 'family life' is problematic who smoke weed at school? LOL. Not a chance. Plenty of kids from 'good families' are smoking weed illegally at my kids' high school. Don't delude yourself that drugs won't affect your kid. It is a pervasive problem that can unfortunately families from all SES/religions/races have to deal with.

How do you know if they are "good families" or not? You don't know what goes behind closed doors.

How do you even define "good family"? Is it that they are educated, white, UMC? I can think of plenty of educated, white, UMC families in my neighborhood - who do the good stuff of providing for their kids, blah blah blah - but they are terrible role models. They are the parents who still get drunk at neighborhood parties and other events. They are the moms who love their wine a bit too much. Those kids see their parents using alcohol and who knows what else. That is the biggest influence. Still consider them good parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

DP

It is completely deranged that our kids have to go to school in such an abysmal environment. Why would anyone think this is normal and okay?

Would you want to work in an environment like that?

It should make parents upset and our kids deserve better.

Throw in shooter drills and lockdowns, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

I think they're posting from an alternative reality using alternative facts.

What are the alternative facts? The fact is that drug use at school is a huge problem in MCPS. Why is that? What can we do about drug use at school, even in kids as young as 5th grade?

Yes, it's a problem everywhere but not exclusive to MCPS. It's a bigger problem for society at large. At our school I guess there are some kids who are into this but that's not really a school problem. It has more to do with their values and family life which we can't legislate.

Oh, so it's only kids whose 'family life' is problematic who smoke weed at school? LOL. Not a chance. Plenty of kids from 'good families' are smoking weed illegally at my kids' high school. Don't delude yourself that drugs won't affect your kid. It is a pervasive problem that can unfortunately families from all SES/religions/races have to deal with.

How do you know if they are "good families" or not? You don't know what goes behind closed doors.

How do you even define "good family"? Is it that they are educated, white, UMC? I can think of plenty of educated, white, UMC families in my neighborhood - who do the good stuff of providing for their kids, blah blah blah - but they are terrible role models. They are the parents who still get drunk at neighborhood parties and other events. They are the moms who love their wine a bit too much. Those kids see their parents using alcohol and who knows what else. That is the biggest influence. Still consider them good parents?

Oh, I agree. Kids from all walks of life are smoking weed AT school. And doing even harder drugs.

That’s why I think the posters who comment that it’s the ‘other’ kids doing drugs are misguided. It’s a problem that kids are doing drugs AT school. Whether it’s your kids or my kids or someone else’s kids.

Ubiquitous drug usage at school is not good for anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

Yes MCPS are to blame. Read the discussions in the links. Having controlled substances means nothing in terms of punishment in MCPS. In a sane world, any student caught with controlled substances would be immediately expelled. Lax drug and substance abuse policies are the fault of MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's like a dozen topics on this board about this issue, so I don't know why you're acting like no one is talking about it or not outraged.

You should probably just not click on this thread. It is pretty obvious from the title what the thread is about. Why click on it if you don't want to see another thread about it?

I didn't say I don't want to see another thread about it.

But there quite literally is a thread in this exact tone and complaint that tax dollars are going to waste because MCPS is a shit show right here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1108199.page

I'm just saying, don't be redundant and don't act like you're the first person to notice there's an issue, which was the tone and posture of the OP.

The OP posted two new links with first-hand accounts of what is going on with regards to drugs in MCPS schools. I found it interesting.

There were definitely people on the other thread saying it was an over-reaction to complain about a drug problem at MCPS schools. The OP is simply providing more evidence to back up the claim that drugs are a real and prevalent problem in MCPS schools.

Again, the information OP posted was posted in various other threads, so it wasn't new info. But anyway, enjoy the thread and maybe follow your own advice about skipping past topics/convos that you don't find valuable.

BYE!

I most definitely find this discussion valuable, so I will most definitely continue to contribute! I would love to see more threads on this issue, and even better, if we could get some more media coverage. I think there are plenty of parents with their heads in the sand about the pervasive nature of drugs in our MCPS schools. The general public is certainly unaware of just how big this problem is in schools. I think the only way MCPS will start to crack down on the drug use at schools is if the BOE and Central Office face more pressure from parents/teachers/voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

Teacher here. People are frustrated because MCPS has no consequences for anything anymore.
Maybe if you are involved in a fight, you might get suspended for 3 days.
Coming to class high - perfectly fine.
Cursing out teachers - no big deal
Skipping classes - no big deal

Most kids don’t do these things but the ones who do negatively impact the entire community

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

Teacher here. People are frustrated because MCPS has no consequences for anything anymore.
Maybe if you are involved in a fight, you might get suspended for 3 days.
Coming to class high - perfectly fine.
Cursing out teachers - no big deal
Skipping classes - no big deal

Most kids don’t do these things but the ones who do negatively impact the entire community

Then I have some great news for you. The Police are interested in these things because it is illegal and there are consequences for breaking the law. See MCPS isn't a shadow judicial system. We already have that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

Teacher here. People are frustrated because MCPS has no consequences for anything anymore.
Maybe if you are involved in a fight, you might get suspended for 3 days.
Coming to class high - perfectly fine.
Cursing out teachers - no big deal
Skipping classes - no big deal

Most kids don’t do these things but the ones who do negatively impact the entire community

BINGO!

MCPS doesn't have a rule problem. They have an enforcement problem. The rules and policies mean nothing without a mechanism, and a willingness, to enforce them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.

Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.

There were zero incidents of kids every needing friggin narcan when I was in HS. Now they need to use it multiple times in 2 months? Good grief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.

You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?

I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange

Teacher here. People are frustrated because MCPS has no consequences for anything anymore.
Maybe if you are involved in a fight, you might get suspended for 3 days.
Coming to class high - perfectly fine.
Cursing out teachers - no big deal
Skipping classes - no big deal

Most kids don’t do these things but the ones who do negatively impact the entire community

YES! As a parent, I find this incredibly frustrating. Agree that it's a small number of kids who fight/do drugs/are involved in gangs. But, they negatively impact the ENTIRE school community on a daily basis.