Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Having a college degree makes you better able to take in a lot of information and make good decisions. It means you've been exposed to people outside your little town and ideas that different from yours. It makes you more comfortable with people who are different than you.

A lot of police departments will actually turn people away with IQs they deem too high. It makes them less pliable. But maybe we should stop arming and giving power to the power hungry idiots among us?


The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Having a college degree makes you better able to take in a lot of information and make good decisions. It means you've been exposed to people outside your little town and ideas that different from yours. It makes you more comfortable with people who are different than you.

A lot of police departments will actually turn people away with IQs they deem too high. It makes them less pliable. But maybe we should stop arming and giving power to the power hungry idiots among us?


The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process?

Not PP but here: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Having a college degree makes you better able to take in a lot of information and make good decisions. It means you've been exposed to people outside your little town and ideas that different from yours. It makes you more comfortable with people who are different than you.

A lot of police departments will actually turn people away with IQs they deem too high. It makes them less pliable. But maybe we should stop arming and giving power to the power hungry idiots among us?


The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process?

Not PP but here: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836


That’s just one jurisdiction.

I’d also be curious how they got a national average IQ for police. As far as I know, there’s no IQ test during academies, nor would you put your IQ on a resume. Either way, the median IQ for an officer (according to that uncited article) is 104, which is higher than the national average in the mid-high 90s.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Having a college degree makes you better able to take in a lot of information and make good decisions. It means you've been exposed to people outside your little town and ideas that different from yours. It makes you more comfortable with people who are different than you.

A lot of police departments will actually turn people away with IQs they deem too high. It makes them less pliable. But maybe we should stop arming and giving power to the power hungry idiots among us?


The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process?

Not PP but here: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836


That’s just one jurisdiction.

I’d also be curious how they got a national average IQ for police. As far as I know, there’s no IQ test during academies, nor would you put your IQ on a resume. Either way, the median IQ for an officer (according to that uncited article) is 104, which is higher than the national average in the mid-high 90s.

Do applicants take the Wonderlic Personnel Test? It seems like they do in some jurisdictions. That’s functionally equivalent to an IQ test.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.


What a load of horse manure.

These black cops were arrested 3 weeks later.

Chauvin was arrested 4 days after.

Take a look at the racial profile of Baltimore cops that made up the Gun Trace Task Force and a look at the price of the cops invovled in Freddie Gray who received protection from the FOP. For years the GTTF was protected by the blue line while committing all sorts of egregious civil rights violations and crimes.

I've seen this talking point in social media, and it is really dumb. It requires entirely selective memory like forgetting all of the garbage black cops too got away with in Baltimore for years.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.


What a load of horse manure.

These black cops were arrested 3 weeks later.

Chauvin was arrested 4 days after.

Take a look at the racial profile of Baltimore cops that made up the Gun Trace Task Force and a look at the price of the cops invovled in Freddie Gray who received protection from the FOP. For years the GTTF was protected by the blue line while committing all sorts of egregious civil rights violations and crimes.

I've seen this talking point in social media, and it is really dumb. It requires entirely selective memory like forgetting all of the garbage black cops too got away with in Baltimore for years.

The unit these guys in Memphis were in does remind me of the GTTF, but the officers on the GTTF who were convicted were both white and black.
https://www.gttfinvestigation.org/about
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Isn’t body camera footage literally the “cops’ perspective”?
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.


What a load of horse manure.

These black cops were arrested 3 weeks later.

Chauvin was arrested 4 days after.

Take a look at the racial profile of Baltimore cops that made up the Gun Trace Task Force and a look at the price of the cops invovled in Freddie Gray who received protection from the FOP. For years the GTTF was protected by the blue line while committing all sorts of egregious civil rights violations and crimes.

I've seen this talking point in social media, and it is really dumb. It requires entirely selective memory like forgetting all of the garbage black cops too got away with in Baltimore for years.

The unit these guys in Memphis were in does remind me of the GTTF, but the officers on the GTTF who were convicted were both white and black.
https://www.gttfinvestigation.org/about



The point is that black police officers, such as those involved in Freddie Gray and the GTTF, were also afforded all sorts of protections from the police departments they were in. Black cops in the GTTF were allowed to terrorize and plunder the city of Baltimore for millions of dollars for years.

It blows up the stupid talking point that constantly gets brought up in the discussions of this event that somehow the only reason these cops were brought to justice 'so quickly' is because they're black. Like no, maybe they're arrested 3 weeks after the fact (which is much slower than Chauvin btw) is because they committed a very heinous crime? Black cops getting away with huge numbers of civil rights crimes in Baltimore for long periods of time also makes the talking point about the race of the cops really really stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


The type of people you want for cops, won’t be cops. Why would they ?

Think about it- it’s a job where:

1) everyone hates you, except for *maybe* a small (and rapidly diminishing) percentage of conservatives/republicans

2) requires to interact with actual bad people, some of whom might try very hard to kill you.

3) requires you to possibly make life-or-death decisions with only seconds to act, with no foreknowledge of the circumstances beforehand.

4) you will be exposed to liability, loss of job, loss of finances, and possibly prison, if you make even an honest mistake, without malice (see point #3)



Why would anyone with the qualifications you desire, with many other career options available to them, do that job? It would be insanity to even consider it. Even people with genuine altruistic motives for “wanting to be the change they want to see” won’t do it, because they’re not stupid.

You’re asking for the impossible.


PP says it's impossible y'all! Guess we should just pack it in and accept the extrajudicial killing of citizens by agents of our government. Nuthin we can do!


That’s not at all what the PP was saying, but you know that already. The PP was simply pointing out why departments are struggling to recruit officers. This isn’t difficult to understand. We want more of officers and we want them held to high standards, and understandably so. It’s acceptable to point out why some people would hesitate. To face criminal charges for a split second decision that was unfortunately necessary in the moment (especially when trying to save others), to be vilified regardless of your intentions or beliefs… people just may not be willing to sign up.


I remember people here on this very forum calling an officer a *murderer* for shooting a young woman who literally had a butcher knife in hand, raised over her head in preparation to stab another girl she had pinned against a car. A cop can do no right in the eyes of most people here.

I wish all police officers would just quit. Just leave the job, and have no one willing to replace them. The ensuing anarchy is exactly what the people of the type who post this stuff so frequently on this forum richly deserve.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


For the police to vigilantly respect our Constitutional rights as citizens. And when they violate said rights, as agents of government they are swiftly brought to justice without favors.

-Another agent of government who would never get away with any of these violations of US citizens’ rights


Thank you for stating this, PP. This is the correct answer.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.


What a load of horse manure.

These black cops were arrested 3 weeks later.

Chauvin was arrested 4 days after.

Take a look at the racial profile of Baltimore cops that made up the Gun Trace Task Force and a look at the price of the cops invovled in Freddie Gray who received protection from the FOP. For years the GTTF was protected by the blue line while committing all sorts of egregious civil rights violations and crimes.

I've seen this talking point in social media, and it is really dumb. It requires entirely selective memory like forgetting all of the garbage black cops too got away with in Baltimore for years.

The unit these guys in Memphis were in does remind me of the GTTF, but the officers on the GTTF who were convicted were both white and black.
https://www.gttfinvestigation.org/about



The point is that black police officers, such as those involved in Freddie Gray and the GTTF, were also afforded all sorts of protections from the police departments they were in. Black cops in the GTTF were allowed to terrorize and plunder the city of Baltimore for millions of dollars for years.

It blows up the stupid talking point that constantly gets brought up in the discussions of this event that somehow the only reason these cops were brought to justice 'so quickly' is because they're black. Like no, maybe they're arrested 3 weeks after the fact (which is much slower than Chauvin btw) is because they committed a very heinous crime? Black cops getting away with huge numbers of civil rights crimes in Baltimore for long periods of time also makes the talking point about the race of the cops really really stupid.


And even if it's coming from a bad place that makes it easier to prosecute black cops (which has some truth to it, let's not pretend it doesn't), those same cops took advantage of a racist system that allows black men to be treated differently, and that's why we're discussing the video of another black man being killed. They deserve the consequences they face, as does anyone who would beat a person to death, especially when they're in a position of power over the victim. It's not that these cops should face less punishment or smaller consequences, but all cops who abuse power and murder people should be held accountable.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Your last sentence 100% on target!!!!!
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Having a college degree makes you better able to take in a lot of information and make good decisions. It means you've been exposed to people outside your little town and ideas that different from yours. It makes you more comfortable with people who are different than you.

A lot of police departments will actually turn people away with IQs they deem too high. It makes them less pliable. But maybe we should stop arming and giving power to the power hungry idiots among us?


The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process?


Or how about we go to countries where the police AREN'T routinely killing their citizens and import those training programs and style of policing here. Let's stop militarizing police. Let's fire them - for real and for good after they've been given one chance. Let's have less of them. Why were there 5 police involved in a traffic stop?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.

Both sentences are 100% on target.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.


I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.


If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.


The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.


As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?


I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.


Having a college degree does not make you a good police officer. Having a temperament and skills to calmly deal with people who are giving you a lot of shit is very important.


Having a college degree makes you better able to take in a lot of information and make good decisions. It means you've been exposed to people outside your little town and ideas that different from yours. It makes you more comfortable with people who are different than you.

A lot of police departments will actually turn people away with IQs they deem too high. It makes them less pliable. But maybe we should stop arming and giving power to the power hungry idiots among us?


The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process?


Or how about we go to countries where the police AREN'T routinely killing their citizens and import those training programs and style of policing here. Let's stop militarizing police. Let's fire them - for real and for good after they've been given one chance. Let's have less of them. Why were there 5 police involved in a traffic stop?


Look… I am 100% against police brutality, but let’s not exaggerate. There are over 3,000,000 Americans and fewer than 1,100 were killed by police last year. Most who died were armed. The countries you are referring to also don’t have our tremendous amount of weapons on the streets. You’re comparing apples to paper clips.
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