The benefits of a college degree are good in theory, but there really is no correlation between a college degree and being a good cop. They would be better off increasing the academy length from 4 months to at least a year. That way they could train officers in skills that are relevant to the job. As it stands now, officers completing their field training have no idea how to do the job. It takes at least a year in a moderately busy precinct to figure out the basics of the job. And I'm not sure where you are getting this information about people with a high IQ being eliminated from the hiring process? |
Not PP but here: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 |
That’s just one jurisdiction. I’d also be curious how they got a national average IQ for police. As far as I know, there’s no IQ test during academies, nor would you put your IQ on a resume. Either way, the median IQ for an officer (according to that uncited article) is 104, which is higher than the national average in the mid-high 90s. |
Do applicants take the Wonderlic Personnel Test? It seems like they do in some jurisdictions. That’s functionally equivalent to an IQ test. |
What a load of horse manure. These black cops were arrested 3 weeks later. Chauvin was arrested 4 days after. Take a look at the racial profile of Baltimore cops that made up the Gun Trace Task Force and a look at the price of the cops invovled in Freddie Gray who received protection from the FOP. For years the GTTF was protected by the blue line while committing all sorts of egregious civil rights violations and crimes. I've seen this talking point in social media, and it is really dumb. It requires entirely selective memory like forgetting all of the garbage black cops too got away with in Baltimore for years. |
The unit these guys in Memphis were in does remind me of the GTTF, but the officers on the GTTF who were convicted were both white and black. https://www.gttfinvestigation.org/about |
The point is that black police officers, such as those involved in Freddie Gray and the GTTF, were also afforded all sorts of protections from the police departments they were in. Black cops in the GTTF were allowed to terrorize and plunder the city of Baltimore for millions of dollars for years. It blows up the stupid talking point that constantly gets brought up in the discussions of this event that somehow the only reason these cops were brought to justice 'so quickly' is because they're black. Like no, maybe they're arrested 3 weeks after the fact (which is much slower than Chauvin btw) is because they committed a very heinous crime? Black cops getting away with huge numbers of civil rights crimes in Baltimore for long periods of time also makes the talking point about the race of the cops really really stupid. |
I remember people here on this very forum calling an officer a *murderer* for shooting a young woman who literally had a butcher knife in hand, raised over her head in preparation to stab another girl she had pinned against a car. A cop can do no right in the eyes of most people here. I wish all police officers would just quit. Just leave the job, and have no one willing to replace them. The ensuing anarchy is exactly what the people of the type who post this stuff so frequently on this forum richly deserve. |
Thank you for stating this, PP. This is the correct answer. |
And even if it's coming from a bad place that makes it easier to prosecute black cops (which has some truth to it, let's not pretend it doesn't), those same cops took advantage of a racist system that allows black men to be treated differently, and that's why we're discussing the video of another black man being killed. They deserve the consequences they face, as does anyone who would beat a person to death, especially when they're in a position of power over the victim. It's not that these cops should face less punishment or smaller consequences, but all cops who abuse power and murder people should be held accountable. |
Your last sentence 100% on target!!!!! |
Or how about we go to countries where the police AREN'T routinely killing their citizens and import those training programs and style of policing here. Let's stop militarizing police. Let's fire them - for real and for good after they've been given one chance. Let's have less of them. Why were there 5 police involved in a traffic stop? |
Both sentences are 100% on target. |
Look… I am 100% against police brutality, but let’s not exaggerate. There are over 3,000,000 Americans and fewer than 1,100 were killed by police last year. Most who died were armed. The countries you are referring to also don’t have our tremendous amount of weapons on the streets. You’re comparing apples to paper clips. |