2022 PSAT Scores

[Anonymous]

From the Compass site (Dec 4, 2022):

In the class of 2020, more than 70,000 students scored above 1400 on the PSAT. This year the figure is under 45,000. This year looks surprisingly similar to last year. Test taker volume is still off more than 13% from pre-pandemic levels, and only 3% of those testers achieved a top score. The results in the last two years may reflect pandemic-related learning losses. Alternatively, College Board has scaled recent PSATs more unfavorably than in the past.

[Anonymous]

Could fewer Californians taking it also lower the averages? California typically has a high nmsf cut off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did all of FCPS and/or Virginia come out? We don't see any yet.

Should be out today on College Board. If you can't see it under PSAT you can get the score if you click on "My SAT".

just checked and still not seeing it despite DD getting an email from her school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could fewer Californians taking it also lower the averages? California typically has a high nmsf cut off.

Fewer California kids are opting into the SAT/ACT, but I suspect CA secondary schools are still administering the PSAT because of its connection with NMSF. I’d be surprised if the numbers there have fallen for the PSAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the PSAT more difficult this year? My kid got 1420 and the percentile ranking was 99 (Junior). This would have been in the 97th percentile typically (based on a google search).

Mine got a 1380 which was also 99 percentile, probably at the lower end so does seem like scores were a bit lower.

Can someone correct my understanding of statistics please? According to Compass (https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/), 3% of the kids scored above 1400. If that were the case, how can a 1380 be in the 99th percentile? I'd ask the same question about the 1420 score although scores may be skewed towards the lower range making this possible..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could fewer Californians taking it also lower the averages? California typically has a high nmsf cut off.

Fewer California kids are opting into the SAT/ACT, but I suspect CA secondary schools are still administering the PSAT because of its connection with NMSF. I’d be surprised if the numbers there have fallen for the PSAT.

I’d be interested in the stats. I just googled and one school district in California in an affluent area only recommended the PSAT for kids pursuing 4 year colleges outside of the UC and CSU systems. And they only offered the Saturday test - not in school. I’m not sure what they did before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the PSAT more difficult this year? My kid got 1420 and the percentile ranking was 99 (Junior). This would have been in the 97th percentile typically (based on a google search).

Mine got a 1380 which was also 99 percentile, probably at the lower end so does seem like scores were a bit lower.

Can someone correct my understanding of statistics please? According to Compass (https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/), 3% of the kids scored above 1400. If that were the case, how can a 1380 be in the 99th percentile? I'd ask the same question about the 1420 score although scores may be skewed towards the lower range making this possible..

It’s normed to high school juniors overall, not just test-takers that particular day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did all of FCPS and/or Virginia come out? We don't see any yet.

Should be out today on College Board. If you can't see it under PSAT you can get the score if you click on "My SAT".

just checked and still not seeing it despite DD getting an email from her school.

NP here. My son's also is not showing (PWC public schools) It says "score pending."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the PSAT more difficult this year? My kid got 1420 and the percentile ranking was 99 (Junior). This would have been in the 97th percentile typically (based on a google search).

Mine got a 1380 which was also 99 percentile, probably at the lower end so does seem like scores were a bit lower.

Can someone correct my understanding of statistics please? According to Compass (https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/), 3% of the kids scored above 1400. If that were the case, how can a 1380 be in the 99th percentile? I'd ask the same question about the 1420 score although scores may be skewed towards the lower range making this possible..

It’s normed to high school juniors overall, not just test-takers that particular day.

So, are you saying that there are a lot more test takers than the number used by Compass? I don't think non-test taking juniors matter at all.

Compass' numbers: All PSAT juniors - 1,460,000; 1400-1520 scorers - 43,575; Percent - 2.98% (rounded to 3%). With these numbers, how can a 1380 or even a 1420 be in the 99th percentile or in the top 1%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the PSAT more difficult this year? My kid got 1420 and the percentile ranking was 99 (Junior). This would have been in the 97th percentile typically (based on a google search).

Mine got a 1380 which was also 99 percentile, probably at the lower end so does seem like scores were a bit lower.

Can someone correct my understanding of statistics please? According to Compass (https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/), 3% of the kids scored above 1400. If that were the case, how can a 1380 be in the 99th percentile? I'd ask the same question about the 1420 score although scores may be skewed towards the lower range making this possible..

It’s normed to high school juniors overall, not just test-takers that particular day.

So, are you saying that there are a lot more test takers than the number used by Compass? I don't think non-test taking juniors matter at all.

Compass' numbers: All PSAT juniors - 1,460,000; 1400-1520 scorers - 43,575; Percent - 2.98% (rounded to 3%). With these numbers, how can a 1380 or even a 1420 be in the 99th percentile or in the top 1%?

No, it’s normed so that if every high school junior in the country took it (all 4 million of them), a 1380 would be in 99%. However, not all juniors take the PSAT, and it’s not a random subsample. Instead it’s skewed somewhat towards kids who score higher on average. Thus we have 3% of test takers scoring in the “top percentile.” They are in the top percentile compared to all juniors in the United States, but not in the subsample who took the PSAT that day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could fewer Californians taking it also lower the averages? California typically has a high nmsf cut off.

Fewer California kids are opting into the SAT/ACT, but I suspect CA secondary schools are still administering the PSAT because of its connection with NMSF. I’d be surprised if the numbers there have fallen for the PSAT.

I’d be interested in the stats. I just googled and one school district in California in an affluent area only recommended the PSAT for kids pursuing 4 year colleges outside of the UC and CSU systems. And they only offered the Saturday test - not in school. I’m not sure what they did before.

it was never offered during the school day in CA, at least back in my day… always a Saturday event. SAT and PSAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the PSAT more difficult this year? My kid got 1420 and the percentile ranking was 99 (Junior). This would have been in the 97th percentile typically (based on a google search).

Mine got a 1380 which was also 99 percentile, probably at the lower end so does seem like scores were a bit lower.

Can someone correct my understanding of statistics please? According to Compass (https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/), 3% of the kids scored above 1400. If that were the case, how can a 1380 be in the 99th percentile? I'd ask the same question about the 1420 score although scores may be skewed towards the lower range making this possible..

It’s normed to high school juniors overall, not just test-takers that particular day.

So, are you saying that there are a lot more test takers than the number used by Compass? I don't think non-test taking juniors matter at all.

Compass' numbers: All PSAT juniors - 1,460,000; 1400-1520 scorers - 43,575; Percent - 2.98% (rounded to 3%). With these numbers, how can a 1380 or even a 1420 be in the 99th percentile or in the top 1%?

No, it’s normed so that if every high school junior in the country took it (all 4 million of them), a 1380 would be in 99%. However, not all juniors take the PSAT, and it’s not a random subsample. Instead it’s skewed somewhat towards kids who score higher on average. Thus we have 3% of test takers scoring in the “top percentile.” They are in the top percentile compared to all juniors in the United States, but not in the subsample who took the PSAT that day.

Not arguing.. trying to understand.. How do you impute scores for the 2.5 million that did not take the test to be able to calculate this? Also, how come a 1420 was in the 97th percentile last year but 99th now (similar stats last year as well)?

[Anonymous]

Any guess for the cutoff for Virginia for this year 11th graders? Hoping it is still 221.

[Anonymous]

Still no score. Last year's score is just sitting there, taunting me with it's outdatedness.

[Anonymous]

Is the cut off for Maryland out yet?