Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't drive your car on busy , multi-use streets after dark if your vision has declined to where it is difficult to see bicyclists or pedestrians. It is an accident waiting to happen when you cannot see someone legally using a crosswalk at 5:30pm after work, or a bicyclist in the bike lane at 5:30pm after work. This is actually not meant to be snarky- many of us, as we age, suffer from reduced ability to see our surroundings in the dark and if this is you, you need to take some responsibility for yourself and not drive a 2 thousand pound vehicle at 30mph through intersections where you cannot see clearly. Use public transport, or walk.

Wrong thread. This is about pedestrians and cyclists making sure they are visible at night. It’s very simple and has absolutely nothing to do with driver’s eyesight. It is difficult for a person with 20/20 vision to see a dark object against a dark background.

Not the wrong thread at all. If your car has working headlights, shining ahead as you drive, you can 10000% a person or a cyclist without reflective gear in your path. If you cannot- no shade- then you should not be driving at night or you need better glasses. Truly.

This is just silly. Go drive around at 6pm and tell us how easy it is to see people. It can be quite difficult no matter how careful you are.

It IS quite difficult which is why you need to slow down, drive a smaller car that can stop more quickly, or preferably both. This isn’t suburbia, you can’t drive your Suburban around at 45 or even 35MPH and expect everyone to wear a beacon for your convenience of tearing through their neighborhood.

This little hissy fit from cyclists is very tiresome. Do more to make yourself visible to drivers -- or don't! It's totally up to you. I'm just telling you that what bicyclists are doing now to make themselves seen in the dark, generally speaking, isn't working. You'll pay the price for that, not me.

You'll sit in jail for vehicular manslaughter and have to live with the fact that you killed someone biking legally in the bike lane because you were too proud to admit you could no longer see in the dark, or you refused to pay proper attention to your surroundings, or both

How often do drivers actually get charged? I’m not saying it’s right, just saying jail is unlikely.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't drive your car on busy , multi-use streets after dark if your vision has declined to where it is difficult to see bicyclists or pedestrians. It is an accident waiting to happen when you cannot see someone legally using a crosswalk at 5:30pm after work, or a bicyclist in the bike lane at 5:30pm after work. This is actually not meant to be snarky- many of us, as we age, suffer from reduced ability to see our surroundings in the dark and if this is you, you need to take some responsibility for yourself and not drive a 2 thousand pound vehicle at 30mph through intersections where you cannot see clearly. Use public transport, or walk.

Wrong thread. This is about pedestrians and cyclists making sure they are visible at night. It’s very simple and has absolutely nothing to do with driver’s eyesight. It is difficult for a person with 20/20 vision to see a dark object against a dark background.

Not the wrong thread at all. If your car has working headlights, shining ahead as you drive, you can 10000% a person or a cyclist without reflective gear in your path. If you cannot- no shade- then you should not be driving at night or you need better glasses. Truly.

This is just silly. Go drive around at 6pm and tell us how easy it is to see people. It can be quite difficult no matter how careful you are.

It IS quite difficult which is why you need to slow down, drive a smaller car that can stop more quickly, or preferably both. This isn’t suburbia, you can’t drive your Suburban around at 45 or even 35MPH and expect everyone to wear a beacon for your convenience of tearing through their neighborhood.

This little hissy fit from cyclists is very tiresome. Do more to make yourself visible to drivers -- or don't! It's totally up to you. I'm just telling you that what bicyclists are doing now to make themselves seen in the dark, generally speaking, isn't working. You'll pay the price for that, not me.

You'll sit in jail for vehicular manslaughter and have to live with the fact that you killed someone biking legally in the bike lane because you were too proud to admit you could no longer see in the dark, or you refused to pay proper attention to your surroundings, or both

How often do drivers actually get charged? I’m not saying it’s right, just saying jail is unlikely.

You never know, they also may get hit and killed by a bigger car. It happens, it's just physics.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how some drivers here are casually ok with killing people. Real psychopaths.

Right? They're like "I might hit you and you'll be dead but it wont be my problem!"

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If anyone wonders why some bicyclists think cars should be banned, just look to the type of things posted above. You drivers are really not doing yourselves any favors.

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You people are funny. Are you capable of talking about literally anything else but the fact you ride a bicycle? My god your lives must be boring and unfulfilling if you have substituted a bicycle for a personality.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are funny. Are you capable of talking about literally anything else but the fact you ride a bicycle? My god your lives must be boring and unfulfilling if you have substituted a bicycle for a personality.

Want to start a thread on gardening? I'm not great at it but we can talk about it.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are funny. Are you capable of talking about literally anything else but the fact you ride a bicycle? My god your lives must be boring and unfulfilling if you have substituted a bicycle for a personality.

Projecting alert

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Don't bike after dark?

Drive more carefully.

I am mostly a biker and a walker, and as a result I am an extremely cautious driver.

It’s next to impossible to see a biker at night.

Don’t be an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Don't bike after dark?

Drive more carefully.

I am mostly a biker and a walker, and as a result I am an extremely cautious driver.

It’s next to impossible to see a biker at night.

Don’t be an idiot.

A lot of people do it seeing normal lights/reflectors. If you have a hard time seeing lights and reflectors then please get your eyes checked to see if you have a condition. It's not normal.

I'm not taking about people who have no lights or reflectors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Don't bike after dark?

Drive more carefully.

I am mostly a biker and a walker, and as a result I am an extremely cautious driver.

It’s next to impossible to see a biker at night.

Don’t be an idiot.

A lot of people do it seeing normal lights/reflectors. If you have a hard time seeing lights and reflectors then please get your eyes checked to see if you have a condition. It's not normal.

I'm not taking about people who have no lights or reflectors.

WABA recommends using as much reflective material as possible when cycling at night in order to increase visibility beyond what is mandated by law, including reflective vests, wheel reflectors, tires with reflective strips, reflective ankle band, backpacks, stickers and decals. Not sure why you don’t want to take professional safety advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Don't bike after dark?

Drive more carefully.

I am mostly a biker and a walker, and as a result I am an extremely cautious driver.

It’s next to impossible to see a biker at night.

Don’t be an idiot.

A lot of people do it seeing normal lights/reflectors. If you have a hard time seeing lights and reflectors then please get your eyes checked to see if you have a condition. It's not normal.

I'm not taking about people who have no lights or reflectors.

WABA recommends using as much reflective material as possible when cycling at night in order to increase visibility beyond what is mandated by law, including reflective vests, wheel reflectors, tires with reflective strips, reflective ankle band, backpacks, stickers and decals. Not sure why you don’t want to take professional safety advice.

+1

Why are people taking this so personally and being so defensive about it? I think the request of not biking after dark is silly, but the advice to wear highly reflective clothing is about safety and even recommended by the biking Association.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't drive your car on busy , multi-use streets after dark if your vision has declined to where it is difficult to see bicyclists or pedestrians. It is an accident waiting to happen when you cannot see someone legally using a crosswalk at 5:30pm after work, or a bicyclist in the bike lane at 5:30pm after work. This is actually not meant to be snarky- many of us, as we age, suffer from reduced ability to see our surroundings in the dark and if this is you, you need to take some responsibility for yourself and not drive a 2 thousand pound vehicle at 30mph through intersections where you cannot see clearly. Use public transport, or walk.

Wrong thread. This is about pedestrians and cyclists making sure they are visible at night. It’s very simple and has absolutely nothing to do with driver’s eyesight. It is difficult for a person with 20/20 vision to see a dark object against a dark background.

Not the wrong thread at all. If your car has working headlights, shining ahead as you drive, you can 10000% a person or a cyclist without reflective gear in your path. If you cannot- no shade- then you should not be driving at night or you need better glasses. Truly.

This is just silly. Go drive around at 6pm and tell us how easy it is to see people. It can be quite difficult no matter how careful you are.

It IS quite difficult which is why you need to slow down, drive a smaller car that can stop more quickly, or preferably both. This isn’t suburbia, you can’t drive your Suburban around at 45 or even 35MPH and expect everyone to wear a beacon for your convenience of tearing through their neighborhood.

This little hissy fit from cyclists is very tiresome. Do more to make yourself visible to drivers -- or don't! It's totally up to you. I'm just telling you that what bicyclists are doing now to make themselves seen in the dark, generally speaking, isn't working. You'll pay the price for that, not me.

You'll sit in jail for vehicular manslaughter and have to live with the fact that you killed someone biking legally in the bike lane because you were too proud to admit you could no longer see in the dark, or you refused to pay proper attention to your surroundings, or both

Not really. Shockingly few drivers are prosecuted for accidentally killing people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Don't bike after dark?

Drive more carefully.

I am mostly a biker and a walker, and as a result I am an extremely cautious driver.

It’s next to impossible to see a biker at night.

Don’t be an idiot.

A lot of people do it seeing normal lights/reflectors. If you have a hard time seeing lights and reflectors then please get your eyes checked to see if you have a condition. It's not normal.

I'm not taking about people who have no lights or reflectors.

WABA recommends using as much reflective material as possible when cycling at night in order to increase visibility beyond what is mandated by law, including reflective vests, wheel reflectors, tires with reflective strips, reflective ankle band, backpacks, stickers and decals. Not sure why you don’t want to take professional safety advice.

Do you need me to find you a link about driving after dark if you're visually impaired? I'm quite sure it's not recommended and may even be prohibited. Not sure why you don't want to take professional safety advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't drive your car on busy , multi-use streets after dark if your vision has declined to where it is difficult to see bicyclists or pedestrians. It is an accident waiting to happen when you cannot see someone legally using a crosswalk at 5:30pm after work, or a bicyclist in the bike lane at 5:30pm after work. This is actually not meant to be snarky- many of us, as we age, suffer from reduced ability to see our surroundings in the dark and if this is you, you need to take some responsibility for yourself and not drive a 2 thousand pound vehicle at 30mph through intersections where you cannot see clearly. Use public transport, or walk.

Wrong thread. This is about pedestrians and cyclists making sure they are visible at night. It’s very simple and has absolutely nothing to do with driver’s eyesight. It is difficult for a person with 20/20 vision to see a dark object against a dark background.

Not the wrong thread at all. If your car has working headlights, shining ahead as you drive, you can 10000% a person or a cyclist without reflective gear in your path. If you cannot- no shade- then you should not be driving at night or you need better glasses. Truly.

This is just silly. Go drive around at 6pm and tell us how easy it is to see people. It can be quite difficult no matter how careful you are.

It IS quite difficult which is why you need to slow down, drive a smaller car that can stop more quickly, or preferably both. This isn’t suburbia, you can’t drive your Suburban around at 45 or even 35MPH and expect everyone to wear a beacon for your convenience of tearing through their neighborhood.

This little hissy fit from cyclists is very tiresome. Do more to make yourself visible to drivers -- or don't! It's totally up to you. I'm just telling you that what bicyclists are doing now to make themselves seen in the dark, generally speaking, isn't working. You'll pay the price for that, not me.

You'll sit in jail for vehicular manslaughter and have to live with the fact that you killed someone biking legally in the bike lane because you were too proud to admit you could no longer see in the dark, or you refused to pay proper attention to your surroundings, or both

Not really. Shockingly few drivers are prosecuted for accidentally killing people.

Oh good, now we're moving on from threatening to casually murder someone to gloating about being able to get away with it.

People like you are the problem with society.