If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

No they don’t .
Love the sinner hate the sin. They know people are gay. They love them. But they won’t condone sin in a religious setting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

David Fishback is a huge extremist that has a history of attacking anyone not extreme enough for him and wrote this hit piece before the primary.

There have been several forums and interviews since then but some are happy to continue this narrative to attack her. Unlike her opponent she has shown up for them all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

You are changing the subject to evade the point that you are a bigot. You took issue with Well’s being a member of a Black church that you felt was anti-LGBTQ. Rivera-Oven is also a member of a church that is anti-LGBTQ.

You are now pivoting to whether or not one candidate has filled in a LGBTQ questionnaire sufficiently positively.

Let’s get back to the first question, should Rivera-Oven’s membership in an anti-LGBTQ church exclude her from being able to serve on the BOE? Yes or no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

You are changing the subject to evade the point that you are a bigot. You took issue with Well’s being a member of a Black church that you felt was anti-LGBTQ. Rivera-Oven is also a member of a church that is anti-LGBTQ.

You are now pivoting to whether or not one candidate has filled in a LGBTQ questionnaire sufficiently positively.

Let’s get back to the first question, should Rivera-Oven’s membership in an anti-LGBTQ church exclude her from being able to serve on the BOE? Yes or no?

Being a black church has nothing to do with this. I’m a pansexual transgender person and I would never vote for a candidate that isn’t absolutely clear in their policy on LGBT rights. You’re conflating membership in a church with being a high level board member. One is common and she has given us her views. The other is very uncommon and she was evasive on her views. The fact that she can’t just say she supports queer kids in MoCo schools and her weird beliefs on CRT are enough to say that she is a conservative. I do not vote for conservatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

David Fishback is a huge extremist that has a history of attacking anyone not extreme enough for him and wrote this hit piece before the primary.

There have been several forums and interviews since then but some are happy to continue this narrative to attack her. Unlike her opponent she has shown up for them all.

100%

[Anonymous]

It's clear that Rivera-Owen is the establishment's pick.

What is unclear is does she even want to be on school board? She has shown a complete lack of interest in the process on the whole, and eschews all social media and really any campaining at all. It's frankly insulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's clear that Rivera-Owen is the establishment's pick.

What is unclear is does she even want to be on school board? She has shown a complete lack of interest in the process on the whole, and eschews all social media and really any campaining at all. It's frankly insulting.

She ran for County Council in 2018 and only ran for school board because she lost that. Her son just won an MCDCC race. She barely mentions schools when talking about.... her school board candidacy.

So I'm going to go with definitely not. Its a stepping stone for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

You are changing the subject to evade the point that you are a bigot. You took issue with Well’s being a member of a Black church that you felt was anti-LGBTQ. Rivera-Oven is also a member of a church that is anti-LGBTQ.

You are now pivoting to whether or not one candidate has filled in a LGBTQ questionnaire sufficiently positively.

Let’s get back to the first question, should Rivera-Oven’s membership in an anti-LGBTQ church exclude her from being able to serve on the BOE? Yes or no?

Being a black church has nothing to do with this. I’m a pansexual transgender person and I would never vote for a candidate that isn’t absolutely clear in their policy on LGBT rights. You’re conflating membership in a church with being a high level board member. One is common and she has given us her views. The other is very uncommon and she was evasive on her views. The fact that she can’t just say she supports queer kids in MoCo schools and her weird beliefs on CRT are enough to say that she is a conservative. I do not vote for conservatives.

Unless you can specifically define the level of activity in an anti-LGBTQ church that is problematic versus okay, you are just making excuses for your bigotry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was progressive. After watching a bunch of sloppy progressive policies get implemented, where the politicians cared more about headlines and credit than about actual impacts and results, I've moved more center. According to this Pew Political Typology quiz, I'm an establishment liberal.

https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/politics-policy/political-parties-polarization/political-typology/

So, as liberal as you can get without identifying as progressive. I want change, but I don't want to blow up systems (and therefore hurt people) in the process.

I voted all Democrat at the federal level.


Here, I voted:

Governor: Wes Moore
Comptroller: Barry Glassman (R)
AG: Anthony Brown (reluctantly)

County Executive: Reardon Sullivan (R) (wanted Blair because Elrich is awful. Will vote R to get rid of Elrich)

At Large Council: Albornoz (D)
Glass (D)
Sayles (D)
Patel (R) protest vote against Jawando, but it won't do any good.

My District Councilmember: Voted for the D, who is liberal but not crazy. If I were in 4 or 5, I would have voted for the R.

Board of Education:

Julie Yang
Valerie Coll
Esther Wells (for some balance and accountability)
Karla Silvestre

accountabililty means allowing hate against our LGBTQ students? OK, got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

You are changing the subject to evade the point that you are a bigot. You took issue with Well’s being a member of a Black church that you felt was anti-LGBTQ. Rivera-Oven is also a member of a church that is anti-LGBTQ.

You are now pivoting to whether or not one candidate has filled in a LGBTQ questionnaire sufficiently positively.

Let’s get back to the first question, should Rivera-Oven’s membership in an anti-LGBTQ church exclude her from being able to serve on the BOE? Yes or no?

Being a black church has nothing to do with this. I’m a pansexual transgender person and I would never vote for a candidate that isn’t absolutely clear in their policy on LGBT rights. You’re conflating membership in a church with being a high level board member. One is common and she has given us her views. The other is very uncommon and she was evasive on her views. The fact that she can’t just say she supports queer kids in MoCo schools and her weird beliefs on CRT are enough to say that she is a conservative. I do not vote for conservatives.

Unless you can specifically define the level of activity in an anti-LGBTQ church that is problematic versus okay, you are just making excuses for your bigotry.

It sounds like she’s the one that’s bigoted to me based on her non answers.

[Anonymous]

There were no lines at my polling center in Silver Spring this morning, and attendance has been pretty sparse till now at least. I live across the street and am WFH today so I’ve been keeping an eye. I wonder if people voted by mail or are just not interested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.

This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about

Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.

http://davidfishback.blogspot.com/2022/09/two-problematic-montgomery-county-md.html?m=1

Unlike the answers to the Metro DC PFLAG questionnaire provided by Ms. Rivera Oven (and Ms. Silvestre), which were full-throated affirmations of the MCPS approach to LGBTQ+ matters in recent years, Ms. Wells’ answers, for the most part, were not responsive

You are changing the subject to evade the point that you are a bigot. You took issue with Well’s being a member of a Black church that you felt was anti-LGBTQ. Rivera-Oven is also a member of a church that is anti-LGBTQ.

You are now pivoting to whether or not one candidate has filled in a LGBTQ questionnaire sufficiently positively.

Let’s get back to the first question, should Rivera-Oven’s membership in an anti-LGBTQ church exclude her from being able to serve on the BOE? Yes or no?

Being a black church has nothing to do with this. I’m a pansexual transgender person and I would never vote for a candidate that isn’t absolutely clear in their policy on LGBT rights. You’re conflating membership in a church with being a high level board member. One is common and she has given us her views. The other is very uncommon and she was evasive on her views. The fact that she can’t just say she supports queer kids in MoCo schools and her weird beliefs on CRT are enough to say that she is a conservative. I do not vote for conservatives.

Unless you can specifically define the level of activity in an anti-LGBTQ church that is problematic versus okay, you are just making excuses for your bigotry.

It sounds like she’s the one that’s bigoted to me based on her non answers.

Liberals like you are why this is happening. Weaponizing bigotry while disturbingly trying to wrap it as inclusion.
https://morningconsult.com/2022/11/02/republicans-outperforming-2018-margins-among-voters-of-color/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’ll want to vote for Dems over Rs in the statewide races and for Silvestre over Erickson and Rivera Owen over Wells for school board and after that there isn’t much difference to worry about.

I’m a center left Democrat and this is what I did. Also Joftus (although Yang seems fine, too) and Coll for school board. I left Elrich/Sullivan blank.

It’s irresponsible to leave Elrich/Sullivan blank if you are a center left democrat and think Elrich would do a better job. And if you think Sullivan would do a better job then I’m not sure what to say.

I absolutely don’t think Elrich would do a better job. Sullivan can’t get anything done with the council in his way, which is strictly better than Elrich working on his agenda. So I voted D down the line, except for Sullivan. I’m under no illusion he has any chance, but maybe a closer-than-expected outcome will scare the county voters into nominating a more sensible candidate next time.

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Anonymous wrote:I was progressive. After watching a bunch of sloppy progressive policies get implemented, where the politicians cared more about headlines and credit than about actual impacts and results, I've moved more center. According to this Pew Political Typology quiz, I'm an establishment liberal.

https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/politics-policy/political-parties-polarization/political-typology/

So, as liberal as you can get without identifying as progressive. I want change, but I don't want to blow up systems (and therefore hurt people) in the process.

I voted all Democrat at the federal level.


Here, I voted:

Governor: Wes Moore
Comptroller: Barry Glassman (R)
AG: Anthony Brown (reluctantly)

County Executive: Reardon Sullivan (R) (wanted Blair because Elrich is awful. Will vote R to get rid of Elrich)

At Large Council: Albornoz (D)
Glass (D)
Sayles (D)
Patel (R) protest vote against Jawando, but it won't do any good.

My District Councilmember: Voted for the D, who is liberal but not crazy. If I were in 4 or 5, I would have voted for the R.

Board of Education:

Julie Yang
Valerie Coll
Esther Wells (for some balance and accountability)
Karla Silvestre

accountabililty means allowing hate against our LGBTQ students? OK, got it.

You don’t seem to know who Esther Wells is.

Or maybe you do and you’re simply an MCEA member worried about losing its stranglehold over the board.