Poll: Will Snyder sell the Commanders this year 2022 or next year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35726691/former-partners-say-dan-snyder-used-team-fund-lifestyle-took-improper-loan-their-approval

What’s funny is that the loan size is about the same as what Synder paid for his new house in VA: $55 million. And it comes at about the same time too.

But, there’s a lot of sour grapes in that article but no reporting that even rises to an allegation of illegal activity, which is that the team lied to secure the loan. It says that BoA requested the documentation. It says that WFT lawyers eventually told BoA the documentation did not exist. What it doesn’t say is what representations the team made to BoA about the documentation. It makes a difference if they said “we have it and will send it right over” versus “we are working on it and will send it asap, but please approve the loan anyway”.

Did Synder misuse and waste team resources. Clearly. As majority owner, did he have the discretion to do so? Also yes. These guys were just mad because he big dogged them and was making them out for chumps.

Is that why he’s selling that massive house?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Snyders have blocked Bezos the private auction:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/26/amazon-jeff-bezos-washington-commanders-bid-dan-snyder

Sour grapes over Post reporting prolly

Sure. But if Bezos owned the team do you think the paper would publish negative stories about the team?

They do publish negative stories about Amazon, so I certainly hope they'd also publish negative stories about the team. If not, I'd stop reading.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Snyders have blocked Bezos the private auction:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/26/amazon-jeff-bezos-washington-commanders-bid-dan-snyder

Sour grapes over Post reporting prolly

Sure. But if Bezos owned the team do you think the paper would publish negative stories about the team?

They do publish negative stories about Amazon, so I certainly hope they'd also publish negative stories about the team. If not, I'd stop reading.

The Washington Post absolutely does not break news or conduct investigative journalism of Amazons business practices. They may republish stories circulating elsewhere but only maintain respectability. But no, they are not breaking stories about Amazon like they have been breaking stories about WFT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35726691/former-partners-say-dan-snyder-used-team-fund-lifestyle-took-improper-loan-their-approval

What’s funny is that the loan size is about the same as what Synder paid for his new house in VA: $55 million. And it comes at about the same time too.

But, there’s a lot of sour grapes in that article but no reporting that even rises to an allegation of illegal activity, which is that the team lied to secure the loan. It says that BoA requested the documentation. It says that WFT lawyers eventually told BoA the documentation did not exist. What it doesn’t say is what representations the team made to BoA about the documentation. It makes a difference if they said “we have it and will send it right over” versus “we are working on it and will send it asap, but please approve the loan anyway”.

Did Synder misuse and waste team resources. Clearly. As majority owner, did he have the discretion to do so? Also yes. These guys were just mad because he big dogged them and was making them out for chumps.

Is that why he’s selling that massive house?

Presumably the loan covers his purchase of his new house and he repays the loan with the sale of his old house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amazing that Snyder would give up hundreds of millions of dollars, possibly billions of dollars, just because he's mad at the Washington Post.

“Here are a few observations of Snyder’s tendencies, a kind of cheat sheet, based on watching his dealings with everyone from John Riggins to Mike and Kyle Shanahan to Jeff Bezos. First, he combines impossibly high smartest-guy-in-the-room self-regard with clumsy, reflexive acts of self-sabotage. He does not operate from reason. He loathes people who are popular and successful and will set out to surreptitiously kneecap and humiliate them in any way he can, even if he hurts himself, too. As longtime league executive and observer Michael Lombardi has written, Snyder will “hire people that are popular, allowing him to win the news conference, then work behind the scenes to destroy their ability to operate.” Any owner or bidder should understand this buried impulse will trump on-the-table dealings.

Second, Snyder would rather be the central titan in a distressed and failed organization than a marginal figure in a successful but invisible field. The idea that he will voluntarily sell is at a minimum optimistic, and the bidding process, at the moment, could be futile. Closing a sale will sentence him to irrelevance — without the team he will be nobody, a pretend lord, hiding behind his wall of wealth, playing Mr. Rochester at his estates in Virginia and England, yelling tallyho and release the hounds. Every jam-smeared finger might have to be pried forcibly off the team, either in a majority vote of owners or through some backdoor leverage.”
Just a blistering assessment from Sally Jenkins. Fabulous.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/02/28/daniel-snyder-nfl/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Snyders have blocked Bezos the private auction:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/26/amazon-jeff-bezos-washington-commanders-bid-dan-snyder

Sour grapes over Post reporting prolly

Sure. But if Bezos owned the team do you think the paper would publish negative stories about the team?

They do publish negative stories about Amazon, so I certainly hope they'd also publish negative stories about the team. If not, I'd stop reading.

The Washington Post absolutely does not break news or conduct investigative journalism of Amazons business practices. They may republish stories circulating elsewhere but only maintain respectability. But no, they are not breaking stories about Amazon like they have been breaking stories about WFT.

Don't know if I completely agree. Here's just a handful of recent negative stories about Amazon in the Post from a quick Google:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2022/amazon-shopping-ads/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/22/amazon-return-to-office-rto-petition-pusback/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2022/amazon-smart-home/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/15/amazon-massive-layoffs/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/04/amazon-work-stoppage-new-york-suspension-union/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/07/racine-amazon-lawsuit-driver-tips/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/12/chris-smallss-amazon-uprising-fight-second-warehouse/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/01/amazon-union-victory/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/01/19/amazonsmile-charity-closing/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/13/amazon-data-center-warrenton-virginia/

They may run a higher share of negative stories about Amazon than they do about the Commanders, since they do also do regular sports coverage of the team and its (occasional) good results and good personnel moves.

[Anonymous]

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Does he realize that the commanders are headquartered in Virginia and play in Maryland?

There are DC residents who have been wronged.

LOL. Apparently Karl Racine will sue any company, regardless of whether it is domiciled in DC, is said company makes vague promises, not specifically to DC residents, to “do better” or something.

Um, so long as any part of the violation affects DC residents, the DC OAG gets to address it.

The “violation” is that they may have made a vague promise that may or may not have been addressed to DC residents with vague outcomes. This is not some form of consumer fraud issue, it is not possible to articulate a specific harm to DC residents and he absolutely does not “get to address it”.

I used to like Karl Racine but he losing the plot. This lawsuit is for headlines and lacks merit. This will get tossed on one or both grounds of jurisdiction and 12(b)(6).

Counterpoint:

[Anonymous]

“The Joshua Harris-led group appears to be the front-runner to purchase the Commanders from Dan Snyder at a price that will be around $6 billion, far exceeding the previous record of $4.65 billion set last year by the Walton-Penner group when it purchased the Denver Broncos.

CBS Sports reported two weeks ago that the sale could take place within three weeks, and it appears that timeline remains intact for now.”
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-sale-winning-bid-for-washington-franchise-expected-to-be-revealed-before-nfl-draft/?fbclid=IwAR3MsnIVF1LfuxB_2VthEPNk3ARfL6KfsTYFba5Ifllz7yNVZu_shRAMcuo&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lgf8gwwljp2uv46tua

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“The Joshua Harris-led group appears to be the front-runner to purchase the Commanders from Dan Snyder at a price that will be around $6 billion, far exceeding the previous record of $4.65 billion set last year by the Walton-Penner group when it purchased the Denver Broncos.

CBS Sports reported two weeks ago that the sale could take place within three weeks, and it appears that timeline remains intact for now.”
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-sale-winning-bid-for-washington-franchise-expected-to-be-revealed-before-nfl-draft/?fbclid=IwAR3MsnIVF1LfuxB_2VthEPNk3ARfL6KfsTYFba5Ifllz7yNVZu_shRAMcuo&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lgf8gwwljp2uv46tua

Snyder is pretty stupid for not taking Jeff Bezos money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The Joshua Harris-led group appears to be the front-runner to purchase the Commanders from Dan Snyder at a price that will be around $6 billion, far exceeding the previous record of $4.65 billion set last year by the Walton-Penner group when it purchased the Denver Broncos.

CBS Sports reported two weeks ago that the sale could take place within three weeks, and it appears that timeline remains intact for now.”
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-sale-winning-bid-for-washington-franchise-expected-to-be-revealed-before-nfl-draft/?fbclid=IwAR3MsnIVF1LfuxB_2VthEPNk3ARfL6KfsTYFba5Ifllz7yNVZu_shRAMcuo&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lgf8gwwljp2uv46tua

Snyder is pretty stupid for not taking Jeff Bezos money.

Bezos never bid, though. Snyder is stupid, but probably not stupid enough to actually have turned down an offer for more than Harris is paying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Does he realize that the commanders are headquartered in Virginia and play in Maryland?

There are DC residents who have been wronged.

LOL. Apparently Karl Racine will sue any company, regardless of whether it is domiciled in DC, is said company makes vague promises, not specifically to DC residents, to “do better” or something.

Um, so long as any part of the violation affects DC residents, the DC OAG gets to address it.

The “violation” is that they may have made a vague promise that may or may not have been addressed to DC residents with vague outcomes. This is not some form of consumer fraud issue, it is not possible to articulate a specific harm to DC residents and he absolutely does not “get to address it”.

I used to like Karl Racine but he losing the plot. This lawsuit is for headlines and lacks merit. This will get tossed on one or both grounds of jurisdiction and 12(b)(6).

Counterpoint:

A Condition Precedent of closing the sale is resolving outstanding legal issues. The new buyers don’t want to inherit potential legal liabilities. So the team hastily settled for chump change to facilitate a sale. This does not provide evidence that the lawsuit had any actual merit.

[Anonymous]

Commanders went from having the highest fan attendance to the lowest through Snyder’s tenure. Pretty remarkable.

I’m not sure this guy has one single fan out there. The team has no place to go but up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Commanders went from having the highest fan attendance to the lowest through Snyder’s tenure. Pretty remarkable.

I’m not sure this guy has one single fan out there. The team has no place to go but up.

Or elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Commanders went from having the highest fan attendance to the lowest through Snyder’s tenure. Pretty remarkable.

I’m not sure this guy has one single fan out there. The team has no place to go but up.

Or elsewhere.

First PP again. Does anyone in the DC area want the stadium? Loudoun has loudly said no. Do DC residents want it at former RFK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Commanders went from having the highest fan attendance to the lowest through Snyder’s tenure. Pretty remarkable.

I’m not sure this guy has one single fan out there. The team has no place to go but up.

Or elsewhere.

First PP again. Does anyone in the DC area want the stadium? Loudoun has loudly said no. Do DC residents want it at former RFK?

Well see how local governments respond to the new ownership. It was the last straw for Snyder with the other owners when he couldn’t get this done.