UVA or W&M or VT for Computer science

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Anonymous wrote:I have a very small sample but here it is. I have three kids and a nephew who graduated in '20, '21 and '22. My kid #1 graduated from UVA in CS in '20 (3.8 GPA) and got a job with a gov. contractor for 100K; applied but wasn't hired by Google, Apple or Amazon. My kid #2 graduated from Virginia Tech '21 in CS (3.8 GPA) and got a job with a gov. contractor for 100K; applied but wasn't hired by Google, Apple or Amazon. My kid #3 and nephew graduated from GMU in '22, both in CS (both of them were rejected by UVA and Virginia Tech), and had 3.75 GPAs. Kid #3 is working for Microsoft for 140K and nephew is working for Google for 145K.

Where you attended for CS is not that important. YMMV.

But harder working smarter students typically don't go to 3rd rate commuter schools.

And the number for GMU at Google and Microsoft's is so small, it makes it statistically irrelevant.

0.28% of UVA Linkedin alumni work at Microsoft. 0.27% of GMU Linkedin alumni work at Microsoft.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a very small sample but here it is. I have three kids and a nephew who graduated in '20, '21 and '22. My kid #1 graduated from UVA in CS in '20 (3.8 GPA) and got a job with a gov. contractor for 100K; applied but wasn't hired by Google, Apple or Amazon. My kid #2 graduated from Virginia Tech '21 in CS (3.8 GPA) and got a job with a gov. contractor for 100K; applied but wasn't hired by Google, Apple or Amazon. My kid #3 and nephew graduated from GMU in '22, both in CS (both of them were rejected by UVA and Virginia Tech), and had 3.75 GPAs. Kid #3 is working for Microsoft for 140K and nephew is working for Google for 145K.

Where you attended for CS is not that important. YMMV.

But harder working smarter students typically don't go to 3rd rate commuter schools.

And the number for GMU at Google and Microsoft's is so small, it makes it statistically irrelevant.

0.28% of UVA Linkedin alumni work at Microsoft. 0.27% of GMU Linkedin alumni work at Microsoft.

Wow! Once again UVA is a STEM lightweight. Thanks

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Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is terrible for STEM, all of their STEM programs are sub-par and the CS program is especially weak. W&M is OK, the best option of the three is Tech. I would would highly consider GMU for CS, the name is not as flashy but the CS program is excellent.

So how are you judging UVA’s stem programs? They have an entire engineering school with tons of very sharp students. Pretty sure it’s not sub par. Most that I have spoken to that has a choice between Tech or UVA considers them roughly equal, maybe a slight nod to tech in engineering but certainly not a no brainer of a decision if is accepted to both.

So you are offended because you have a child at UVA in a STEM major (more than engineering in case you didn't know). Just look at the rankings, quality of faculty and research being conducted...weak.

I don’t have a kid there nor on engineering, just looking for a source.

Don't be lazy and do your own research.

I don’t care enough to do the research, I was hoping you’d have a source. You seem to spout this off a lot so just looking for a source for the OP.

This is DCUM. Don’t expect people to actually back up their claims and allegations. It’s all about feelings and emotions here.

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

Look at the page for a college, then alumni. You can search where they work.

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

Last I knew FANG companies don't even recruit at VA schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

Look at the page for a college, then alumni. You can search where they work.

I found roughly 3X as many UVA grads working there as GMU grads.

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Anonymous wrote:If money is not an issue, which program is better?

VT has way more Stem gen ed and UVA and W&M have more liberal arts gen ed is what I have understood. All 3 are equal just the college experience may be different for each.

If anyone can share recent exp that will be helpful.

W&M has CS?

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UVA

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

Look at the page for a college, then alumni. You can search where they work.

I found roughly 3X as many UVA grads working there as GMU grads.

?? 501 UVA vs 474 GMU. Roughly the same number of amumni are on LinkedIn.

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My boyfriend's employee got hired by Microsoft after his Full Sail graduation. One of his professors worked for Microsoft.
He did projects for Microsoft during college.

He was also recruited by a company in London after his Full Sail graduation and was flown to London for his job interview along with his girlfriend.

He went from making $14 per hour at the Battery Store to making good 6 figures at Microsoft upon graduation.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M faculty don't even do research and are not recognized in the field (any field). I certainly would not go there for any degree that involves innovation activities like Computer Science

W&M's relative strength is undergraduate teaching, and this is just as strong if not stronger within STEM as outside. But your premise above is completely wrong. W&M faculty do research, and a simple check on the CS faculty pages show all of the tenure track faculty do research. More importantly, almost all undergraduates, and nearly 100% of STEM undergraduates, do guided research with faculty. This is very useful both in getting jobs, but particularly for those applying to graduate school.

Getting into a top CS graduate school from W&M CS would be almost impossible because of both the lack of rigor and variety in the coursework.

All research universities have undergraduate research opportunities for students, far moreso than W&M.

Not a single fact in your assertions. The National Science Foundation does track undergraduate origins of PhD recipients by area of study. W&M has the highest percentage of undergraduates among public national universities to receive PhDs and the second highest percentage in STEM fields after UC Berkeley.

Okay? CS is not the only STEM subject, and that data provides no information as to the quality of the universities for graduate work in question.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M faculty don't even do research and are not recognized in the field (any field). I certainly would not go there for any degree that involves innovation activities like Computer Science

W&M's relative strength is undergraduate teaching, and this is just as strong if not stronger within STEM as outside. But your premise above is completely wrong. W&M faculty do research, and a simple check on the CS faculty pages show all of the tenure track faculty do research. More importantly, almost all undergraduates, and nearly 100% of STEM undergraduates, do guided research with faculty. This is very useful both in getting jobs, but particularly for those applying to graduate school.

Getting into a top CS graduate school from W&M CS would be almost impossible because of both the lack of rigor and variety in the coursework.

All research universities have undergraduate research opportunities for students, far moreso than W&M.

Not a single fact in your assertions. The National Science Foundation does track undergraduate origins of PhD recipients by area of study. W&M has the highest percentage of undergraduates among public national universities to receive PhDs and the second highest percentage in STEM fields after UC Berkeley.

Okay? CS is not the only STEM subject, and that data provides no information as to the quality of the universities for graduate work in question.

You made the assertion and you have NO data to back it up. It is completely unsubstantiated. Your opinion and nothing else. The PP at least provided relevant data.

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

Last I knew FANG companies don't even recruit at VA schools.

I have never worked at any place that recruited at my undergrad including two of these.

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the link for this LinkedIn data?

Last I knew FANG companies don't even recruit at VA schools.

Seriously? VT CS grads go to Apple, Microsoft, Google, FB, Amazon, among many others.

https://fds.career.vt.edu/EmployerList?cohort=2019-2020
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