home sick watching SATC and wow

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

Why the vitriol?

Why do so many women who are married with kids express such vitriol and discriminate against women who are childless? It's like women with kids are bitter at all the drudgery that encompasses their lives raising kids and want to feel better by putting down, criticzing, and excluding childless women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

+1

How many women wasted a decade trying to emulate the satc lifestyle and now are bitter old spinsters.

I don't know a single one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

+1

How many women wasted a decade trying to emulate the satc lifestyle and now are bitter old spinsters.

zero

Lol yup. Previous replies are like listening to someone’s elderly aunt drunkenly ranting at Thanksgiving.

Are you kidding? I can think of half a dozen female coworkers, plus my boss, who are exactly like this and my age (late thirties). No man, no kids, nice apartments, nice handbags, and they do Friendsgiving together. Photos of their food, booze, and manicures on Instagram.

I'm an attorney who married relatively late. Lot of BIGLAW woman friends. None of them fit what you're saying. None of my law school friends, either.

Even if a "half dozen" of your friends fit that mold, that's hardly some statistically significant sample. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Ok, to take a break from brunch granny musings (seriously, can we NOT make this thread about how "women today" aren't getting married and popping out kids enough? Said as a married mom. It's just a boring subject).

Back to the show, I'm the poster from the first page who recently started watching AJLT, which I still maintain is terrible (yet I keep watching, what does that say about me?).

But one thing I LOVED was when Carrie and Natasha have their little confrontations/conversation. First Bridget Moynihan is really great in that scene which was nice because she's actually a very skilled actress who was cast back on SATC primarily for looking a certain way (as the "stick insect") and never had a chance to do much on the original show, even as her character got totally screwed over by Big and Carrie being selfish and ridiculous.

So it was just nice to see this scene of her character being pretty in control of the situation, expressing her anger at Carrie and Big but also you can tell she's 100% moved on and has a lovely life with a good job and two kids she loves, and ultimately you see that Big cheating on her was probably a blessing for her ultimately because he was always going to be withholding and not fully committed and while she doesn't say word one about her husband (you know she's remarried because she uses her married name at work), it's hard to imagine her having that life with Big who probably would have jerked her around, refused to have kids, and divorced her right at the point when she was feeling too old to get pregnant.

Natasha was a very two-dimensional character on SATC and I loved this glimpse of her as a much more fully-realized, and realistic and empathetic, person. The show has always been terrible at giving anyone outside the main 4 real depth (it's still a thing on AJLT, all the new characters primarily exist to provide character arcs to the main three) but it was rewarding to watch someone from the original cast who can really act have the chance to make herself much more real, if only for one scene.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

Why the vitriol?

Why do so many women who are married with kids express such vitriol and discriminate against women who are childless? It's like women with kids are bitter at all the drudgery that encompasses their lives raising kids and want to feel better by putting down, criticzing, and excluding childless women.

DP but I agree. Married mom with young kids and I LOVE satc. Though I will say that their lives more closely resembled my twenties than my thirties. Rewatching it for the zillionth time in my thirties, I find myself wondering what these women were doing the decade prior.

Satc as a show is not that different from any other show about a tight knit group of friends (like friends, how I met your mother, etc.) it is about a period in your life where your friends are your family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

Why the vitriol?

Why do so many women who are married with kids express such vitriol and discriminate against women who are childless? It's like women with kids are bitter at all the drudgery that encompasses their lives raising kids and want to feel better by putting down, criticzing, and excluding childless women.

DP but I agree. Married mom with young kids and I LOVE satc. Though I will say that their lives more closely resembled my twenties than my thirties. Rewatching it for the zillionth time in my thirties, I find myself wondering what these women were doing the decade prior.

Satc as a show is not that different from any other show about a tight knit group of friends (like friends, how I met your mother, etc.) it is about a period in your life where your friends are your family.

Sorry but the show promotes an unrealistic and unhealthy lifestyle. And it suckered millions of women. Look how many moved to NYC bc of the show and who never met their Big and are miserable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

Brunch grandma, is that you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

+1

How many women wasted a decade trying to emulate the satc lifestyle and now are bitter old spinsters.

I don't know a single one.

Lol, me neither. Also, the "lifestyle" wasn't dedicated singledom. They were all dating and trying to meet a partner, except maybe Samantha (and even she had some long-term relationships). All the other SATC characters ended up married, and Charlotte and Miranda both had kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

Why the vitriol?

Why do so many women who are married with kids express such vitriol and discriminate against women who are childless? It's like women with kids are bitter at all the drudgery that encompasses their lives raising kids and want to feel better by putting down, criticzing, and excluding childless women.

DP but I agree. Married mom with young kids and I LOVE satc. Though I will say that their lives more closely resembled my twenties than my thirties. Rewatching it for the zillionth time in my thirties, I find myself wondering what these women were doing the decade prior.

Satc as a show is not that different from any other show about a tight knit group of friends (like friends, how I met your mother, etc.) it is about a period in your life where your friends are your family.

Sorry but the show promotes an unrealistic and unhealthy lifestyle. And it suckered millions of women. Look how many moved to NYC bc of the show and who never met their Big and are miserable

I mean, I’m from nyc and while anecdotally I know a bunch of women who are still single in their 30s (mostly not by choice) none of them fault sex and the city for brainwashing them. The show is a take on NYC culture -where many beautiful women all want to marry the same “catch” of a nan- and did not create it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Carrie and Big's romance has always been a mystery to me. It didn't feel authentic back then, it didn't feel authentic 3 movies and a marriage later. Her decision to stay with Big will always stick out as the epitome of foolishness.

Yeah, I think that's why I could never get into the show when I my friends loved it. He never made sense and their power dynamic was so uneven.

Really? I kind of got it. He was a finance bro, she was a cute media girl. Pretty common matchup in NYC, although theirs was an older-person version

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, to take a break from brunch granny musings (seriously, can we NOT make this thread about how "women today" aren't getting married and popping out kids enough? Said as a married mom. It's just a boring subject).

Back to the show, I'm the poster from the first page who recently started watching AJLT, which I still maintain is terrible (yet I keep watching, what does that say about me?).

But one thing I LOVED was when Carrie and Natasha have their little confrontations/conversation. First Bridget Moynihan is really great in that scene which was nice because she's actually a very skilled actress who was cast back on SATC primarily for looking a certain way (as the "stick insect") and never had a chance to do much on the original show, even as her character got totally screwed over by Big and Carrie being selfish and ridiculous.

So it was just nice to see this scene of her character being pretty in control of the situation, expressing her anger at Carrie and Big but also you can tell she's 100% moved on and has a lovely life with a good job and two kids she loves, and ultimately you see that Big cheating on her was probably a blessing for her ultimately because he was always going to be withholding and not fully committed and while she doesn't say word one about her husband (you know she's remarried because she uses her married name at work), it's hard to imagine her having that life with Big who probably would have jerked her around, refused to have kids, and divorced her right at the point when she was feeling too old to get pregnant.

Natasha was a very two-dimensional character on SATC and I loved this glimpse of her as a much more fully-realized, and realistic and empathetic, person. The show has always been terrible at giving anyone outside the main 4 real depth (it's still a thing on AJLT, all the new characters primarily exist to provide character arcs to the main three) but it was rewarding to watch someone from the original cast who can really act have the chance to make herself much more real, if only for one scene.

I agree, I thought this was a great part of the show. It was also totally consistent with Carrie and her self-absorption that she would be chasing this woman around NYC and forcing her to dredge up the ugly past to try to make herself feel better

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

+1

How many women wasted a decade trying to emulate the satc lifestyle and now are bitter old spinsters.

zero

Lol yup. Previous replies are like listening to someone’s elderly aunt drunkenly ranting at Thanksgiving.

Are you kidding? I can think of half a dozen female coworkers, plus my boss, who are exactly like this and my age (late thirties). No man, no kids, nice apartments, nice handbags, and they do Friendsgiving together. Photos of their food, booze, and manicures on Instagram.

No one is saying these women do not exist. Just that it is unrelated to Carrie Bradshaw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

I'm sensing that you may have a great deal of sadness and unhappiness in your own life, perhaps stemming from your own personal choices. I am sending you lightness and love today. Also, research would say the happiest cohort of women are those who never married and never had children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i still order cosmos!

Me too! and I loved making them back in the day and watching SATC with my friends lol

All the late 90s and 2000s stuff is coming back now. Maybe cosmos and flavored martinis will reemerge. People are drinking a lot of espresso martinis right now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

+1. Literal propaganda, down the rigged awards it won to give it more credibility. All a con on viewers who are still too simple to realize they were being brainwashed. Still worshiping a show that was programming them to abandon their families and become childfree worker-bee rootless cosmopolitans. Sleeping around, $3,000+ month rent, designer shoes, brunch, and an email job! And spending holidays with spinster friends because your family is 1,000 miles away and you have no husband and no children. What a life!

Why the vitriol?

Why do so many women who are married with kids express such vitriol and discriminate against women who are childless? It's like women with kids are bitter at all the drudgery that encompasses their lives raising kids and want to feel better by putting down, criticzing, and excluding childless women.

DP but I agree. Married mom with young kids and I LOVE satc. Though I will say that their lives more closely resembled my twenties than my thirties. Rewatching it for the zillionth time in my thirties, I find myself wondering what these women were doing the decade prior.

Satc as a show is not that different from any other show about a tight knit group of friends (like friends, how I met your mother, etc.) it is about a period in your life where your friends are your family.

Sorry but the show promotes an unrealistic and unhealthy lifestyle. And it suckered millions of women. Look how many moved to NYC bc of the show and who never met their Big and are miserable

Millions of women did not get “suckered” by this TV show. If the show made you want to move to NYC and meet your Mr Big that is on you. I don’t think most women watching found that aspirational, esp the Carrie-Big relationship. Maybe the fashion, but in a fun, modern way.

I enjoyed it; it came out right as I graduated college so just matched my phase of life. It was great entertainment. I never once moved to NYC watching it. I even got married, had kids, and didn’t turn out bitter. Shocker.