I'm so happy to see all the family cargo bikes in my neighborhood!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad families are choosing to do this, but my guess is it coincides a lot with increased working from home. Everyone is my neighborhood seems to start work at 10 and can leisurely bike or walk kids to school. I have to drive to work and commute every day so biking just doesn’t make sense. But good for all of these families!

Unless you don't live in the city where you work, the whole process of dropping off / picking up kids on the way to / from work is much easier on a bike than in a car, and the travel time is generally shorter too, all the more so with an electric bike.

Not true for my situation. I find my bike route to work to be too dangerous for my taste.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you do fellow kids?

Lol. Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

I'm going to estimate at least 99% mutual exclusivity between actual spandex-clad road biking "lance armstrong (or whoever) wannabes" and "electric/cargo bike parent". They just are sooo different.

I think the angry man wants to retain the right to be mad furious at more than one category of people, while also claiming they don't really exist in any significant number, while also claiming they don't do the thing that represents them in his eyes more than a couple of times ever.

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I live in shaw and see a good number if these bikes as im driving my kids to school. Please bexsafe. Im rooting for you, but it’s a jungle out there. Good people in cars dometimes really dont see you coming out of their blind spots to jump in front at the intersection. We wouldnt be able to bike to school, but could take the city bus. It’s full of crazies though, so i dont let my kids go alone.

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Why are you using bikes when DCUM says everyone loves the city because of walkability.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad families are choosing to do this, but my guess is it coincides a lot with increased working from home. Everyone is my neighborhood seems to start work at 10 and can leisurely bike or walk kids to school. I have to drive to work and commute every day so biking just doesn’t make sense. But good for all of these families!

Unless you don't live in the city where you work, the whole process of dropping off / picking up kids on the way to / from work is much easier on a bike than in a car, and the travel time is generally shorter too, all the more so with an electric bike.

Not true for my situation. I find my bike route to work to be too dangerous for my taste.

I don't doubt it. However, those families lucky enough to have a protected bike path, or an otherwise safer bike route to school/work, can generally commute faster that way than by car.

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I agree that electric motors have revolutionized access and use of bicycles.

BUT.

As a European accustomed to seeing all kinds of road-sharing in my home country, I'm just terrified for cyclists here. Car drivers do NOT know how to share the road in this country. And some cyclists are just asking to get hit. I nearly hit a cyclist with no lights, dressed all in dark colors, on Rockville Pike on a winter's night. I live off of Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda, and every year there's at least one cyclist fatality near the beltway entrance and exit. Usually a teenager.

Please be careful when cycling and please stay alert for cyclists and pedestrians when driving.

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The bicyclists assume everyone sees them zipping out into traffic - and not everyone does.

Please, please, please pay attention when you are biking with small children.

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Some of the parents biking to my kids' school have no idea how to safely approach the school entrance. Zooming by pedestrians on the sidewalk and swerving in and out of the drop off lane is not it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you using bikes when DCUM says everyone loves the city because of walkability.

LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

You realize there are raincoats and pullovers that people wear, right?

You realize there are dry cars, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

You should be paid for all the ridiculously overearnest propaganda you’re attempting to spread. Your language is dramatic and absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

I'm going to estimate at least 99% mutual exclusivity between actual spandex-clad road biking "lance armstrong (or whoever) wannabes" and "electric/cargo bike parent". They just are sooo different.

I think the angry man wants to retain the right to be mad furious at more than one category of people, while also claiming they don't really exist in any significant number, while also claiming they don't do the thing that represents them in his eyes more than a couple of times ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

Well, back in your days of saying all cyclists are spandex-clad men, a couple of weeks ago, you thought the rise in cargo bikes was an optical illusion. I love that they are now whimsical and powerful. Carry on.

You seem to be arguing with a different person. Nice to know that you spend weeks patrolling cycling threads on DCUM in order to post instant responses. Surprised you even have time for your hobby.

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This would be my concern.

It's a concern, so you do keep it locked and out of sight. However, they don't seem to be stolen anywhere near as often as expensive road bikes, or new car tires.

Wait, what - stealing new car tires during the day seems much more tricky than stealing a bike!

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This would be my concern.

It's a concern, so you do keep it locked and out of sight. However, they don't seem to be stolen anywhere near as often as expensive road bikes, or new car tires.

Wait, what - stealing new car tires during the day seems much more tricky than stealing a bike!

Wasn't thinking day versus night, but simply that I read reports of tires theft more than weekly, and haven't read a "have you seen this cargo bike?" social media post in a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

I'm going to estimate at least 99% mutual exclusivity between actual spandex-clad road biking "lance armstrong (or whoever) wannabes" and "electric/cargo bike parent". They just are sooo different.

Road cyclists (the MAMIL types) are usually older, 40s-50s.

I enjoy both types of riding but I see your point.