I'm so happy to see all the family cargo bikes in my neighborhood!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad families are choosing to do this, but my guess is it coincides a lot with increased working from home. Everyone is my neighborhood seems to start work at 10 and can leisurely bike or walk kids to school. I have to drive to work and commute every day so biking just doesn’t make sense. But good for all of these families!

Unless you don't live in the city where you work, the whole process of dropping off / picking up kids on the way to / from work is much easier on a bike than in a car, and the travel time is generally shorter too, all the more so with an electric bike.

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Anonymous wrote:Started riding my son to his DCPS everyday to/from school when I’m telecommuting.

It’s only a 6 minute ride, but it’s easily the favorite part of his day.

Love these people who wouldn't dream of driving a child anywhere without strapping them into a car seat, but they'll put a child on a bike in a crowded city and are like, "it's fine -- i'll just be careful."

The kids wear helmets and the bikes go a lot slower than cars do. Also, I would only commute with my kid on my bike in residential neighborhoods with low speed limits and good bike infrastructure. it's actually much, much safer than driving.

This just seems delusional. You are putting your child in a life threatening situation. If you get hit by a car, he or she is dead.

I mean, I walk my kid to school about six blocks. She doesn't wear a helmet or anything. I rely on the exact same safety measures as I would while riding a bike -- awareness of vehicles, caution at intersections, etc. And on our walk there is always the risk that my kid could dart out into the street at the wrong time (she knows not to do this but with kids you never know). Do you think it's "delusional" to walk with my daughter to school every day? Is the only "safe" way to transport a child inside a vehicle?

No, you don't. You and your child (presumably) walk on a sidewalk aside from when you are crossing the street. A family in a cargo bike cannot ride down the sidewalk for the whole route, or really any of it, generally. Unless there is a protected bike lane, they are in the road with cars.

A lot of people only do a bike commute with a child if they can take streets with either protected bike lanes or something like a contraflow lane which are much safer because of better visibility for all involved. I feel very comfortable biking down the one-way street near my house with my kid on my bike. It has low traffic volume and a very low speed limit, and I can see oncoming cars, including turning cars, from at least a block away. I would not ride down a busy two way street with my kid unless there was a protected bike lane.

See, it's almost like people who take their kids on bikes are very thoughtful about safety issues and not just throwing caution to the wind. You seem to think that a kid on a bike is inherently unsafe which is a bizarre take. There are probably more people driving around with improperly installed carseats right now than there are people riding around with kids on their bikes total, but I don't see you going into the car threads and yelling at people that it's unsafe to drive your kids around because of the potential for carseat malfunction.

What oncoming cars? It's a one-way street. Are you riding down it the wrong way?

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Anonymous wrote:Started riding my son to his DCPS everyday to/from school when I’m telecommuting.

It’s only a 6 minute ride, but it’s easily the favorite part of his day.

Love these people who wouldn't dream of driving a child anywhere without strapping them into a car seat, but they'll put a child on a bike in a crowded city and are like, "it's fine -- i'll just be careful."

The kids wear helmets and the bikes go a lot slower than cars do. Also, I would only commute with my kid on my bike in residential neighborhoods with low speed limits and good bike infrastructure. it's actually much, much safer than driving.

This just seems delusional. You are putting your child in a life threatening situation. If you get hit by a car, he or she is dead.

I mean, I walk my kid to school about six blocks. She doesn't wear a helmet or anything. I rely on the exact same safety measures as I would while riding a bike -- awareness of vehicles, caution at intersections, etc. And on our walk there is always the risk that my kid could dart out into the street at the wrong time (she knows not to do this but with kids you never know). Do you think it's "delusional" to walk with my daughter to school every day? Is the only "safe" way to transport a child inside a vehicle?

No, you don't. You and your child (presumably) walk on a sidewalk aside from when you are crossing the street. A family in a cargo bike cannot ride down the sidewalk for the whole route, or really any of it, generally. Unless there is a protected bike lane, they are in the road with cars.

A lot of people only do a bike commute with a child if they can take streets with either protected bike lanes or something like a contraflow lane which are much safer because of better visibility for all involved. I feel very comfortable biking down the one-way street near my house with my kid on my bike. It has low traffic volume and a very low speed limit, and I can see oncoming cars, including turning cars, from at least a block away. I would not ride down a busy two way street with my kid unless there was a protected bike lane.

See, it's almost like people who take their kids on bikes are very thoughtful about safety issues and not just throwing caution to the wind. You seem to think that a kid on a bike is inherently unsafe which is a bizarre take. There are probably more people driving around with improperly installed carseats right now than there are people riding around with kids on their bikes total, but I don't see you going into the car threads and yelling at people that it's unsafe to drive your kids around because of the potential for carseat malfunction.

What oncoming cars? It's a one-way street. Are you riding down it the wrong way?

PP said they like contraflow lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

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Anonymous wrote:I imagine these are regularly stolen unless kept out of sight?

This would be my concern.

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Anonymous wrote:I imagine these are regularly stolen unless kept out of sight?

This would be my concern.

It's a concern, so you do keep it locked and out of sight. However, they don't seem to be stolen anywhere near as often as expensive road bikes, or new car tires.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Well you would be mistaken. I personally have no problem with cycling infrastructure that makes sense. I do have a problem with smug cyclists and a transportation department that seems to have been taken over by a niche, too online cultist attitude. It surprises me how many DDOT people are on Twitter being obnoxious.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

Well, back in your days of saying all cyclists are spandex-clad men, a couple of weeks ago, you thought the rise in cargo bikes was an optical illusion. I love that they are now whimsical and powerful. Carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

Well, back in your days of saying all cyclists are spandex-clad men, a couple of weeks ago, you thought the rise in cargo bikes was an optical illusion. I love that they are now whimsical and powerful. Carry on.

You seem to be arguing with a different person. Nice to know that you spend weeks patrolling cycling threads on DCUM in order to post instant responses. Surprised you even have time for your hobby.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back when the weather’s bad. Around here, that’s frequent.

It’s the first couple weeks of school. Two people with too much disposable income decided to try the new lifestyle fad they read about in the New York Times. It will last until the day of the first big fall morning rainstorm, if they make it that long. After that, the cargo bike will sit next to the camping backpack carrier and the jogging stroller, perhaps to be carted out just once next summer with the idea of riding down to the mall for the fireworks but then realizing that the kids have now outgrown it and are too heavy on the uphill ride back home. After that it will go on Craigslist.

Do you also hate Christmas? And singing, do you hate songs? What other dire predictions do you have that fail to take into account that today's cargo bikes are electric, freedom from cars is addictive, and e-cargo-biking preschoolers for 5 blocks on a continuous path of protected bike lanes is actually super duper easy?

Super easy when the are pre-schoolers and the weather is nice. Both are have very limited periods of time. But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims. I get it. It’s the same reason why Palisades Rec Center had pickleball courts that are never used. Fortunately that’s a little less consequential allocation of public resources and goods dedicated to a niche hobby.

We talked about this on some other thread. When they're too old for the cargo bikes, families with a good path of protected bike lanes will bike single file together. We're already seeing plenty of this. But I say this, forgetting that you see adults carrying adults on electric cargo bikes. It looks ridiculous, sure, but the electric upgrade is a game changer in that way.

“We”?

Nice to admit that you have an organized group of your buddies to post about bikes to try to generate a false impression about the popularity. Kinda sad imo. But you do you.

Whatever dude. We = You and me.

Uh no. I’m a different poster. It’s not a bilateral discussion friend.

I have a hard time believing there is more than one guy creating multiple threads titled "Gah! Hate Bikes!", then saying things like "But sure, the world should cater to your faddish hobby and whims." AND relentlessly pushing the dumb idea that most electric cargo bike families will use it for one month and then never commute using any sort of non-car again. There really aren't that many of YOU with this much energy to hate.

Same PP: at least you've evolved from seeing bike lanes as "the hobby of a few hundred white guys in spandex." (Connecticut thread) to a "faddish hobby" of cargo bike parents. We're making progress!

Things are not mutually exclusive.

I'm going to estimate at least 99% mutual exclusivity between actual spandex-clad road biking "lance armstrong (or whoever) wannabes" and "electric/cargo bike parent". They just are sooo different.