Our elementary school canceled Halloween

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Not celebrating Halloween at school is “destroying American society”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Halloween has gotten bigger and bigger the last several decades. It we take it out of schools, it will still be in homes, on streets, in retail stores, etc. My kids were given Halloween candy by their instructor at their swim lessons the week of Halloween for God’s sake! There’s no threat that Halloween will vanish.

It's not gotten any bigger. It was always big. And celebrated in schools. If you want to cut back, cut back on the Halloween candy at swim school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Not celebrating Halloween at school is “destroying American society”?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Not celebrating Halloween at school is “destroying American society”?

DP

You know how we can’t really pinpoint what American culture is? Well, abandoning traditions that are uniquely American will just push us further down that path.

I’m all for the melting pot, but shouldn’t we try to retain certain things?

It’s interesting how we spend so much time and money traveling abroad and enjoy immersing ourselves in another culture or tradition yet we seemingly want to abandon anything “American.”

Someday we might regret it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a fun, happy celebration for >95% of the school community and unfair to <5%. It’s sad to lose this fun thing that most people look forward to, but it’s public school, so we shouldn’t be marginalizing the kids who don’t celebrate.

Just like we shouldn’t marginalize kids who don’t stand for the pledge of allegiance.

And soon, we won’t marginalize the kids who don’t want to follow the dress code. Oh right, we don’t really have a dress code. Kids can wear sagging pants, booty shorts and crop tops. But your kid cannot wear a coat or pullover with a zipper at Rosa Parks MS because they apparently do have some bizarre dress code that fixates on zippers and they do enforce it.

What is your point? Kids should be forced to observe Halloween regardless of their families’ beliefs because it’s an integral part of American culture or necessary for their educational environment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Not celebrating Halloween at school is “destroying American society”?

DP

You know how we can’t really pinpoint what American culture is? Well, abandoning traditions that are uniquely American will just push us further down that path.

I’m all for the melting pot, but shouldn’t we try to retain certain things?

It’s interesting how we spend so much time and money traveling abroad and enjoy immersing ourselves in another culture or tradition yet we seemingly want to abandon anything “American.”

Someday we might regret it.

You think a school is not celebrating Halloween because it is an American tradition?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a fun, happy celebration for >95% of the school community and unfair to <5%. It’s sad to lose this fun thing that most people look forward to, but it’s public school, so we shouldn’t be marginalizing the kids who don’t celebrate.

Just like we shouldn’t marginalize kids who don’t stand for the pledge of allegiance.

And soon, we won’t marginalize the kids who don’t want to follow the dress code. Oh right, we don’t really have a dress code. Kids can wear sagging pants, booty shorts and crop tops. But your kid cannot wear a coat or pullover with a zipper at Rosa Parks MS because they apparently do have some bizarre dress code that fixates on zippers and they do enforce it.

What is your point? Kids should be forced to observe Halloween regardless of their families’ beliefs because it’s an integral part of American culture or necessary for their educational environment?

DP No, those handful of students should sit out while the vast majority participates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Not celebrating Halloween at school is “destroying American society”?

DP

You know how we can’t really pinpoint what American culture is? Well, abandoning traditions that are uniquely American will just push us further down that path.

I’m all for the melting pot, but shouldn’t we try to retain certain things?

It’s interesting how we spend so much time and money traveling abroad and enjoy immersing ourselves in another culture or tradition yet we seemingly want to abandon anything “American.”

Someday we might regret it.

You think a school is not celebrating Halloween because it is an American tradition?

Who cares why. The effect is the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I can tell you that Halloween is super fun and incredibly hard. I hate getting kids into costumes. They are really nutty all day. And that damn parade! Why can't families celebrate on their own? Why does this have to happen during school hours? Kids have 4-5 hours to trick or treat after school!

I agree. School should be about learning, not having fun with your entire class! It should be about bonding with your IMMEDIATE FAMILY, not sharing an experience with your schoolmates!! Or your teacher! Your teacher is for DRUDGERY and drudgery alone! NEVER FORGET THAT CHILDREN!!!

I’m a teacher and don’t care one way or another but vote for whatever makes you act this crazy. There’s plenty of fun in ES without dressing up in costumes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a fun, happy celebration for >95% of the school community and unfair to <5%. It’s sad to lose this fun thing that most people look forward to, but it’s public school, so we shouldn’t be marginalizing the kids who don’t celebrate.

Just like we shouldn’t marginalize kids who don’t stand for the pledge of allegiance.

And soon, we won’t marginalize the kids who don’t want to follow the dress code. Oh right, we don’t really have a dress code. Kids can wear sagging pants, booty shorts and crop tops. But your kid cannot wear a coat or pullover with a zipper at Rosa Parks MS because they apparently do have some bizarre dress code that fixates on zippers and they do enforce it.

What is your point? Kids should be forced to observe Halloween regardless of their families’ beliefs because it’s an integral part of American culture or necessary for their educational environment?

Not at all.

We already had an alternative activity for those kids whose parents bizarrely believe a Halloween party is a satanic ritual.

Rather, I’d opt for maintaining traditions that the overwhelming majority hold.

Bending for the fringe minority is worrisome as well as annoying.

[Anonymous]

What about Family Life?

We have parents who opt out and their kids go to another room during instruction (at the high school level, too…which is shocking).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I can tell you that Halloween is super fun and incredibly hard. I hate getting kids into costumes. They are really nutty all day. And that damn parade! Why can't families celebrate on their own? Why does this have to happen during school hours? Kids have 4-5 hours to trick or treat after school!

I agree. School should be about learning, not having fun with your entire class! It should be about bonding with your IMMEDIATE FAMILY, not sharing an experience with your schoolmates!! Or your teacher! Your teacher is for DRUDGERY and drudgery alone! NEVER FORGET THAT CHILDREN!!!

I’m a teacher and don’t care one way or another but vote for whatever makes you act this crazy. There’s plenty of fun in ES without dressing up in costumes

Then get rid of whatever fun is left. Because ... well, someone will come up with a reason. Just ban it. Not everyone is on board with whatever particular type of 'fun' you are referring to, or they will be soon, so just get rid of it. Replace it with something bland then get rid of that. Etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I can tell you that Halloween is super fun and incredibly hard. I hate getting kids into costumes. They are really nutty all day. And that damn parade! Why can't families celebrate on their own? Why does this have to happen during school hours? Kids have 4-5 hours to trick or treat after school!

I agree. School should be about learning, not having fun with your entire class! It should be about bonding with your IMMEDIATE FAMILY, not sharing an experience with your schoolmates!! Or your teacher! Your teacher is for DRUDGERY and drudgery alone! NEVER FORGET THAT CHILDREN!!!

I’m a teacher and don’t care one way or another but vote for whatever makes you act this crazy. There’s plenty of fun in ES without dressing up in costumes

Then get rid of whatever fun is left. Because ... well, someone will come up with a reason. Just ban it. Not everyone is on board with whatever particular type of 'fun' you are referring to, or they will be soon, so just get rid of it. Replace it with something bland then get rid of that. Etc.

I think the best way to preserve fun is to get Debbie Downers like you out of the classroom space and school culture. No wonder people aren’t having fun around you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like my Republican parents. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in". OMG really? We believe in Halloween Gramma?
It's school. Wanna celebrate Halloween, do it at home, do it on your streets, have kids over for a party, hell host a Sabbat under the full moon. No one is stopping you.

- Will happily be celebrating Halloween - at home - cause it's not illegal

Yes, it is destroying American society. Society is all of us, doing things together. As a group. It's not about what you are allowed to do on your own time, in the privacy of your own home.

Society is literally the activities and cultural norms we all participate in together. Do you really not understand that?

Not celebrating Halloween at school is “destroying American society”?

DP

You know how we can’t really pinpoint what American culture is? Well, abandoning traditions that are uniquely American will just push us further down that path.

I’m all for the melting pot, but shouldn’t we try to retain certain things?

It’s interesting how we spend so much time and money traveling abroad and enjoy immersing ourselves in another culture or tradition yet we seemingly want to abandon anything “American.”

Someday we might regret it.

You think a school is not celebrating Halloween because it is an American tradition?

Who cares why. The effect is the same.

The PP seems to care about the “why.”

I grew up attending public schools in the south. We didn’t really celebrate Halloween at school much. No costumes, no parade. We celebrated Thanksgiving, Christmas (you could get a religious exemption but had to ask for it), and Valentine’s Day. Of those, I would say only Thanksgiving is “uniquely American.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I can tell you that Halloween is super fun and incredibly hard. I hate getting kids into costumes. They are really nutty all day. And that damn parade! Why can't families celebrate on their own? Why does this have to happen during school hours? Kids have 4-5 hours to trick or treat after school!

I agree. School should be about learning, not having fun with your entire class! It should be about bonding with your IMMEDIATE FAMILY, not sharing an experience with your schoolmates!! Or your teacher! Your teacher is for DRUDGERY and drudgery alone! NEVER FORGET THAT CHILDREN!!!

I’m a teacher and don’t care one way or another but vote for whatever makes you act this crazy. There’s plenty of fun in ES without dressing up in costumes

Then get rid of whatever fun is left. Because ... well, someone will come up with a reason. Just ban it. Not everyone is on board with whatever particular type of 'fun' you are referring to, or they will be soon, so just get rid of it. Replace it with something bland then get rid of that. Etc.

I think the best way to preserve fun is to get Debbie Downers like you out of the classroom space and school culture. No wonder people aren’t having fun around you

I was joking. Jesus, people. Whoops, I said Jesus.