Western Maryland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So that begs the question? How can one help a town like Cumberland absent putting a factory or a hospital? How does one revitalize it but not drive the locals out? Presumably a lot of these boarded up, dilapidated homes are owned by someone who doesn't live there and they'd be up for sale?!?! Or they are up for sale but until there is a trend to make Cumberland an "it" town, theyll remain that way.

I don’t think you can. To revitalize any town, you will need to provide a factory or something else that provides good jobs.

If a business wants to relocate somewhere, they will want to move to an area with plenty of good workers. Not druggies. What business would move to a Cumberland type area now when there isn’t a good supply of workers?

Cumberland (and the many towns like it) lived through their usefulness. They are at the end of their lifecycle. They are too remote to come back. Let it be a slum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

Having lived for many years in a similar place, where the main industry collapsed and the town has been in gradual decay every since, with brain drain and anyone of means escaping while they can, I've seen the pattern repeat over and over, it's a cynical mentality that takes over that somehow convinces themselves that the rest of the country is in similar, if not worse decline and decay regardless of any realities to the contrary, they struggle to make ends meet and thus conclude that their own struggle is everyone else's fault, as though the rest of us are "mooching" off of them. Along with sneering at the ones who escaped as "elitists." I hear this kind of thing every time I go back to visit. I've busted my own tail to succeed - busted my ass and paid my own way through college, worked my ass off to work my way up the rungs in my professional careers, I make more and pay more in taxes than they do yet somehow they think people like me are the problem. And all that belief goes into their MAGA sentiments, and they keep doubling down on it even as their community goes to hell around them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cumberland and alot of Western MD got left behind and looks very run down out there. The State should do more to help them.

Most of the state outside of the DC/Baltimore Megacity looks run down. This is what happens when the state is run by people who are increasingly more and more disconnected from anybody who isn't some DC 'burbs moron. Look at the gubernatorial candidates now. I can't see a single one of them lowering themselves to meet with everyone from chicken farmers, to watermen, to mountain men. That ends up being reflected back, one way or another. Perhaps I am wrong in that assessment, but I doubt even that MAGA dimwit will bother to go meet with, oh, Marmaduke Eden FitzHambone VII on his big chicken coop out in Talbot County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cumberland and alot of Western MD got left behind and looks very run down out there. The State should do more to help them.

Most of the state outside of the DC/Baltimore Megacity looks run down. This is what happens when the state is run by people who are increasingly more and more disconnected from anybody who isn't some DC 'burbs moron. Look at the gubernatorial candidates now. I can't see a single one of them lowering themselves to meet with everyone from chicken farmers, to watermen, to mountain men. That ends up being reflected back, one way or another. Perhaps I am wrong in that assessment, but I doubt even that MAGA dimwit will bother to go meet with, oh, Marmaduke Eden FitzHambone VII on his big chicken coop out in Talbot County.

To be fair, none of the people you mention would make any move to want to meet or associate with the gubinatroail candidates, either, so there is that.

Fact is, to win Annapolis, you need to capture the DC and Baltimore suburbs. Garrett County and much of the Eastern Shore have minimal political relevance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So that begs the question? How can one help a town like Cumberland absent putting a factory or a hospital? How does one revitalize it but not drive the locals out? Presumably a lot of these boarded up, dilapidated homes are owned by someone who doesn't live there and they'd be up for sale?!?! Or they are up for sale but until there is a trend to make Cumberland an "it" town, theyll remain that way.

I don’t think you can. To revitalize any town, you will need to provide a factory or something else that provides good jobs.

If a business wants to relocate somewhere, they will want to move to an area with plenty of good workers. Not druggies. What business would move to a Cumberland type area now when there isn’t a good supply of workers?

Cumberland (and the many towns like it) lived through their usefulness. They are at the end of their lifecycle. They are too remote to come back. Let it be a slum.

I have family in Cumberland and they have no desire to leave or accelerate their education. They don't do drugs but they barely have high school degrees and don't raise their kids with any ambitions to go to college, travel or leave Western Maryland. Part of the problem is how far they are from an airport - at least 2 hours to one by car. They have no experiences outside of their bubble. I don't care if it remains a slum, it's what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

Having lived for many years in a similar place, where the main industry collapsed and the town has been in gradual decay every since, with brain drain and anyone of means escaping while they can, I've seen the pattern repeat over and over, it's a cynical mentality that takes over that somehow convinces themselves that the rest of the country is in similar, if not worse decline and decay regardless of any realities to the contrary, they struggle to make ends meet and thus conclude that their own struggle is everyone else's fault, as though the rest of us are "mooching" off of them. Along with sneering at the ones who escaped as "elitists." I hear this kind of thing every time I go back to visit. I've busted my own tail to succeed - busted my ass and paid my own way through college, worked my ass off to work my way up the rungs in my professional careers, I make more and pay more in taxes than they do yet somehow they think people like me are the problem. And all that belief goes into their MAGA sentiments, and they keep doubling down on it even as their community goes to hell around them.

Yep. These people live in such an o solar bubble and have no idea how far behind they are in their bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So that begs the question? How can one help a town like Cumberland absent putting a factory or a hospital? How does one revitalize it but not drive the locals out? Presumably a lot of these boarded up, dilapidated homes are owned by someone who doesn't live there and they'd be up for sale?!?! Or they are up for sale but until there is a trend to make Cumberland an "it" town, theyll remain that way.

I don’t think you can. To revitalize any town, you will need to provide a factory or something else that provides good jobs.

If a business wants to relocate somewhere, they will want to move to an area with plenty of good workers. Not druggies. What business would move to a Cumberland type area now when there isn’t a good supply of workers?

Cumberland (and the many towns like it) lived through their usefulness. They are at the end of their lifecycle. They are too remote to come back. Let it be a slum.

I have family in Cumberland and they have no desire to leave or accelerate their education. They don't do drugs but they barely have high school degrees and don't raise their kids with any ambitions to go to college, travel or leave Western Maryland. Part of the problem is how far they are from an airport - at least 2 hours to one by car. They have no experiences outside of their bubble. I don't care if it remains a slum, it's what they want.

The airport in Ridgeley is a one minute drive from Cumberland. I fly in their at least once a month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

Actually, manufacturing jobs started to go to MX under Reagan with the maquiladora program.

https://apnews.com/article/32ebed8150e545169cfa79d921b2f842

Also, NAFTA was signed under Bush Sr.

https://southernborderpartners.com/manufacturing-resources-pages/2016/4/18/nafta-and-the-maquiladora-program

People like ^PP like to spread misinformation about NAFTA, and who started it. It's understandable. The lowly educated probably don't know the history of NAFTA or the economics of manufacturing. They just hear right wing media blaming liberals and illegals for all of their ills.

-former R, 50+ yrs old, who used to live CA, and whose parents were blue collar factory worker who got impacted by the above. I recall very clearly the Reagan administration pushing the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

LOL. A couple pages back somebody scoffed at my post that folks who vote Republican blame others for their problems. You've just proved her wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

LOL. A couple pages back somebody scoffed at my post that folks who vote Republican blame others for their problems. You've just proved her wrong.

One can always tell a privileged upper class white girl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

LOL. A couple pages back somebody scoffed at my post that folks who vote Republican blame others for their problems. You've just proved her wrong.

One can always tell a privileged upper class white girl

dp.. one can always tell a person who blames others for their lot in life.

-non white, from lower income parents who worked factory jobs that got outsourced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

You must be really old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

You must be really old.

and read/watch too much ultra right wing propaganda.

Dems didn't force the companies to leave. Those jobs left due to capitalism, something a real R should love.