Shooting in dc nw Tenleytown, it's spilling into the "good" areas

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Anonymous wrote:That McDonald's should NOT be open 24 hours a day. That is just asking for trouble. Nothing good ever happens at 3:50am. I hope they start closing at 11pm.

Or better yet, it should sell to Starbucks or another coffeehouse.

Starbucks in Tenley closed. Why would they open another? Rents are FAR too high- large landlords have found a way to make more money on vacant properties in DC as write offs and the Council and Mayor won't close that slushy loophole . Such "vibrancy"!

Starbucks picks their neighborhoods very carefully. If they closed there, it’s a very bad sign.

They closed their glover park one. But they literally had two locations down the street. At some point their 'oversaturation' strategy caught up with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been told in other DCUM threads that this is called being in a "vibrant city" and that you need to be "street smart" and stop complaining

Mayor Bowser’s administration and the Smart Growth interests claim it’s all about “vibrant corridors.” So in the last few weeks, there’s been a shoring and Wisconsin and Van Ness; a stabbing on a Metro bus on the Wisconsin corridor; a murder and a rape in an apartment building near Connecticut; a school shooting on Connecticut, where very fortunately no one died but people were wounded and billets traveled a mile down the Connecticut corridor. What am I leaving out?

A woman thrown out or who jumped out a 7 story window on Connecticut Ave with her legs bound and the man who abducted her toddler.

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Anonymous wrote:And virtually every. single. candidate. for ward 3 council that I have discussed this with (Finley, Goulet, Fruman, Thomas) gives the sympathy nod and the "yes, we must do something about the root causes of crime" condescending reply.

This phrase, of course, is code for "more spending programs" and "less prosecution of crime when it happens."

Finley has a pretty cogent argument for changing our approach to policing instead of demanding more more more police. It's something like "DC has the Xth largest police force in the USA but is the <Xth largest city" and he talks about having police patrol more, using statistics from MPD and comparing to other police departments. His website also specifically states vigorously prosecuting violent criminals "We need to vigorously prosecute those who commit violent crime to get them off our streets..."
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He is running in W3 and he isn't an idiot. Saying that our cops aren't cost effective and that he has a plan to increase efficiency isn't a bad argument.

Sounds like a pretty stupid argument actually. Somehow only this dude found the secret to solving crime without police that no one else the world over has been able to figure out.

So DC has the highest police per capita of major cities in this country? If more cops and more incarceration is the answer, why hasn't it already worked? Seems like calling for an audit to see how our police spend their time is the most rational thing we could hope for in a policymaker.

Because our cops are busy saving the Capitol from insurrectionists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That McDonald's should NOT be open 24 hours a day. That is just asking for trouble. Nothing good ever happens at 3:50am. I hope they start closing at 11pm.

Or better yet, it should sell to Starbucks or another coffeehouse.

Starbucks in Tenley closed. Why would they open another? Rents are FAR too high- large landlords have found a way to make more money on vacant properties in DC as write offs and the Council and Mayor won't close that slushy loophole . Such "vibrancy"!

Starbucks picks their neighborhoods very carefully. If they closed there, it’s a very bad sign.

Lack of revenue. There are no office workers nearby. AU students have abundant coffee choices on campus. Same strip has a Panera and also a Wawa opened, so direct competition. The issue is not crime and the main crime in that area has traditionally been shoplifting from CVS.

And at least two recent carjackings - one in the CVS parking lot and one on Chesapeake by Fort Reno.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And virtually every. single. candidate. for ward 3 council that I have discussed this with (Finley, Goulet, Fruman, Thomas) gives the sympathy nod and the "yes, we must do something about the root causes of crime" condescending reply.

This phrase, of course, is code for "more spending programs" and "less prosecution of crime when it happens."

Finley has a pretty cogent argument for changing our approach to policing instead of demanding more more more police. It's something like "DC has the Xth largest police force in the USA but is the <Xth largest city" and he talks about having police patrol more, using statistics from MPD and comparing to other police departments. His website also specifically states vigorously prosecuting violent criminals "We need to vigorously prosecute those who commit violent crime to get them off our streets..."
>

He is running in W3 and he isn't an idiot. Saying that our cops aren't cost effective and that he has a plan to increase efficiency isn't a bad argument.

Sounds like a pretty stupid argument actually. Somehow only this dude found the secret to solving crime without police that no one else the world over has been able to figure out.

So DC has the highest police per capita of major cities in this country? If more cops and more incarceration is the answer, why hasn't it already worked? Seems like calling for an audit to see how our police spend their time is the most rational thing we could hope for in a policymaker.

Because our cops are busy saving the Capitol from insurrectionists.

As they should, you cannot be real. All these folk leaving Trumpy comments all over are I think the dark campaign wing of the certain progressives running in the primary. Otherwise, do please go back to the Spring Valley. Not helping.

BTW Progressives, what a name. Basic uninformed narcissistic 20th century Marxists

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That McDonald's should NOT be open 24 hours a day. That is just asking for trouble. Nothing good ever happens at 3:50am. I hope they start closing at 11pm.

Or better yet, it should sell to Starbucks or another coffeehouse.

Starbucks in Tenley closed. Why would they open another? Rents are FAR too high- large landlords have found a way to make more money on vacant properties in DC as write offs and the Council and Mayor won't close that slushy loophole . Such "vibrancy"!

Starbucks picks their neighborhoods very carefully. If they closed there, it’s a very bad sign.

Lack of revenue. There are no office workers nearby. AU students have abundant coffee choices on campus. Same strip has a Panera and also a Wawa opened, so direct competition. The issue is not crime and the main crime in that area has traditionally been shoplifting from CVS.

And at least two recent carjackings - one in the CVS parking lot and one on Chesapeake by Fort Reno.

The carjackings are a new thing and not restricted to Tenleytown, obviously. There was a carjacking on Friday night in the middle of downtown Bethesda. Speaking for myself, I personally avoid shopping at that CVS because it’s awful and has always been unsafe.

While Wawa in Columbia Heights closed due to crime, I can guarantee that this Starbucks closed on purely revenue-based decisions. One key metric that Wall Street looks at is same store sales growth and I doubt that store had any, to add to obviously low revenue in the first place.
I can guarantee you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That McDonald's should NOT be open 24 hours a day. That is just asking for trouble. Nothing good ever happens at 3:50am. I hope they start closing at 11pm.

Or better yet, it should sell to Starbucks or another coffeehouse.

Starbucks in Tenley closed. Why would they open another? Rents are FAR too high- large landlords have found a way to make more money on vacant properties in DC as write offs and the Council and Mayor won't close that slushy loophole . Such "vibrancy"!

Starbucks picks their neighborhoods very carefully. If they closed there, it’s a very bad sign.

Lack of revenue. There are no office workers nearby. AU students have abundant coffee choices on campus. Same strip has a Panera and also a Wawa opened, so direct competition. The issue is not crime and the main crime in that area has traditionally been shoplifting from CVS.

And at least two recent carjackings - one in the CVS parking lot and one on Chesapeake by Fort Reno.

The carjackings are a new thing and not restricted to Tenleytown, obviously. There was a carjacking on Friday night in the middle of downtown Bethesda. Speaking for myself, I personally avoid shopping at that CVS because it’s awful and has always been unsafe.

While Wawa in Columbia Heights closed due to crime, I can guarantee that this Starbucks closed on purely revenue-based decisions. One key metric that Wall Street looks at is same store sales growth and I doubt that store had any, to add to obviously low revenue in the first place.
I can guarantee you

Are you talking about the one in Tenleytown? It was always hopping. The issue in Tenleytown (and much of DC) is landlords charge extraordinary rents so NO BUSINESS can be profitable. When the property is shuttered, they use it as a tax write off for years and years. The Council has passed no laws to disincentivize that landlords make more off of closed, than open properties. This is on our city managers to fix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That McDonald's should NOT be open 24 hours a day. That is just asking for trouble. Nothing good ever happens at 3:50am. I hope they start closing at 11pm.

Or better yet, it should sell to Starbucks or another coffeehouse.

Starbucks in Tenley closed. Why would they open another? Rents are FAR too high- large landlords have found a way to make more money on vacant properties in DC as write offs and the Council and Mayor won't close that slushy loophole . Such "vibrancy"!

Starbucks picks their neighborhoods very carefully. If they closed there, it’s a very bad sign.

Lack of revenue. There are no office workers nearby. AU students have abundant coffee choices on campus. Same strip has a Panera and also a Wawa opened, so direct competition. The issue is not crime and the main crime in that area has traditionally been shoplifting from CVS.

And at least two recent carjackings - one in the CVS parking lot and one on Chesapeake by Fort Reno.

The carjackings are a new thing and not restricted to Tenleytown, obviously. There was a carjacking on Friday night in the middle of downtown Bethesda. Speaking for myself, I personally avoid shopping at that CVS because it’s awful and has always been unsafe.

While Wawa in Columbia Heights closed due to crime, I can guarantee that this Starbucks closed on purely revenue-based decisions. One key metric that Wall Street looks at is same store sales growth and I doubt that store had any, to add to obviously low revenue in the first place.
I can guarantee you

Are you talking about the one in Tenleytown? It was always hopping. The issue in Tenleytown (and much of DC) is landlords charge extraordinary rents so NO BUSINESS can be profitable. When the property is shuttered, they use it as a tax write off for years and years. The Council has passed no laws to disincentivize that landlords make more off of closed, than open properties. This is on our city managers to fix.

The Starbucks in Tenleytown was definitely not “always hopping”, unless you count a handful of high school kids getting frappuccinos. The issue with commercial rents would be another reason for Starbucks to close unrelated to crime in the neighborhood.

And just to bring the point home. Starbucks announced in 2019 that they were closing 50 stores throughout the region of which this store was a part. So again, not crime.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/starbucks-lovers-beware-four-locations-close-in-three-months/4974/?amp

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Walking around/ school run

It strikes me that we could have an equally robust and accurate thread entitled “Sh*tting in nw dc Tenleytown; it’s spilling into the good areas”…. Not a particularly hygiene-forward area in the recent decline

City Ridge should help. But it’s not to my eye “densifying”, it’s good old gentrifying just not of the preexisting populace

@Bowser

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Anonymous wrote:Walking around/ school run

It strikes me that we could have an equally robust and accurate thread entitled “Sh*tting in nw dc Tenleytown; it’s spilling into the good areas”…. Not a particularly hygiene-forward area in the recent decline

City Ridge should help. But it’s not to my eye “densifying”, it’s good old gentrifying just not of the preexisting populace

@Bowser

City Ridge will be self-contained and if the residents venture out they would be more likely to look towards Cleveland Park (2 Amy’s, Barcelona, etc) than Tenleytown (Wawa, Steak and Eggs).

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Anonymous wrote:Walking around/ school run

It strikes me that we could have an equally robust and accurate thread entitled “Sh*tting in nw dc Tenleytown; it’s spilling into the good areas”…. Not a particularly hygiene-forward area in the recent decline

City Ridge should help. But it’s not to my eye “densifying”, it’s good old gentrifying just not of the preexisting populace

@Bowser

the poop is in every bus stop from friendship heights to gtown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That McDonald's should NOT be open 24 hours a day. That is just asking for trouble. Nothing good ever happens at 3:50am. I hope they start closing at 11pm.

Or better yet, it should sell to Starbucks or another coffeehouse.

Starbucks in Tenley closed. Why would they open another? Rents are FAR too high- large landlords have found a way to make more money on vacant properties in DC as write offs and the Council and Mayor won't close that slushy loophole . Such "vibrancy"!

Starbucks picks their neighborhoods very carefully. If they closed there, it’s a very bad sign.

Lack of revenue. There are no office workers nearby. AU students have abundant coffee choices on campus. Same strip has a Panera and also a Wawa opened, so direct competition. The issue is not crime and the main crime in that area has traditionally been shoplifting from CVS.

And at least two recent carjackings - one in the CVS parking lot and one on Chesapeake by Fort Reno.

The carjackings are a new thing and not restricted to Tenleytown, obviously. There was a carjacking on Friday night in the middle of downtown Bethesda. Speaking for myself, I personally avoid shopping at that CVS because it’s awful and has always been unsafe.

While Wawa in Columbia Heights closed due to crime, I can guarantee that this Starbucks closed on purely revenue-based decisions. One key metric that Wall Street looks at is same store sales growth and I doubt that store had any, to add to obviously low revenue in the first place.
I can guarantee you

Are you talking about the one in Tenleytown? It was always hopping. The issue in Tenleytown (and much of DC) is landlords charge extraordinary rents so NO BUSINESS can be profitable. When the property is shuttered, they use it as a tax write off for years and years. The Council has passed no laws to disincentivize that landlords make more off of closed, than open properties. This is on our city managers to fix.

The Starbucks in Tenleytown was definitely not “always hopping”, unless you count a handful of high school kids getting frappuccinos. The issue with commercial rents would be another reason for Starbucks to close unrelated to crime in the neighborhood.

And just to bring the point home. Starbucks announced in 2019 that they were closing 50 stores throughout the region of which this store was a part. So again, not crime.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/starbucks-lovers-beware-four-locations-close-in-three-months/4974/?amp

+1 agree. Very rare to see that SB busy outside of after school.

[Anonymous]

Until the officials prosecute those who commit these crimes, there is no incentive to stop.

My nephew and his girlfriend were carjacked in DC last month. The car was recovered a few hours later. The juveniles in the car matched the descriptions that my nephew and his gf gave the police. The one suspect even had on a distinctive pair of Jordans that my nephew mentioned.

When he was allowed to pick up his car, he asked the next steps and was told by the officers that the prosecutor decided to "no paper" for the charges. He had no idea what that meant and they explained that it meant the prosecutor decided not to go forth with charges. He was flabbergasted.

They were caught IN the stolen car. The descriptions matched perfectly!

No wonder there are so many car jackings by teens in DC. They know unless they kill someone, they're going to get away with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Until the officials prosecute those who commit these crimes, there is no incentive to stop.

My nephew and his girlfriend were carjacked in DC last month. The car was recovered a few hours later. The juveniles in the car matched the descriptions that my nephew and his gf gave the police. The one suspect even had on a distinctive pair of Jordans that my nephew mentioned.

When he was allowed to pick up his car, he asked the next steps and was told by the officers that the prosecutor decided to "no paper" for the charges. He had no idea what that meant and they explained that it meant the prosecutor decided not to go forth with charges. He was flabbergasted.

They were caught IN the stolen car. The descriptions matched perfectly!

No wonder there are so many car jackings by teens in DC. They know unless they kill someone, they're going to get away with.

Shocking. But what we’ve come to expect. Vote Salah, vote moderates to centrists across the board. It’s the only hope

[Anonymous]

Until the officials prosecute those who commit these crimes, there is no incentive to stop.

My nephew and his girlfriend were carjacked in DC last month. The car was recovered a few hours later. The juveniles in the car matched the descriptions that my nephew and his gf gave the police. The one suspect even had on a distinctive pair of Jordans that my nephew mentioned.

When he was allowed to pick up his car, he asked the next steps and was told by the officers that the prosecutor decided to "no paper" for the charges. He had no idea what that meant and they explained that it meant the prosecutor decided not to go forth with charges. He was flabbergasted.

They were caught IN the stolen car. The descriptions matched perfectly!

No wonder there are so many car jackings by teens in DC. They know unless they kill someone, they're going to get away with.
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Even if they DO kill someone, they STILL get away with it. That's what happened last summer with the two teen girls who carjacked and grabbed the 60 yo uber eats driver to his death. Vote centrist and moderate. Czapary, Hubbard, Goulet, Mendelson.