Two week old will not breastfeed

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Anonymous wrote:OP - does your baby suckle on anything? Their hand/finger, a pacifier, anything at all?

I am just wildly impressed that the baby is gaining weight with syringe feeds - you are clearly working SO HARD.

If the baby is not sucking on anything I am, like other posters said, concerned about a tongue tie or some other structural mouth issue that has not been caught yet.

OP here. He will breastfeed but can’t get a good latch because of small flat nipples. He will extract like 0.5 out when he does. We tried a nipple shield and he doesn’t like it and will refuse to use it. He will suckle on my breast shallow for comfort. He won’t take a bottle but we are still trying. He will take a pacifier.

We make sure to feed him 1-2 ounces every 1-2 hours. Sometimes when he is really hungry he will suck on it to get the milk out as soon as we put the syringe in his mouth. Most times we go slowly and squirt it into his cheek. The feedings can take about 30 minutes. He eats 20-24 ounces a day.

If he does this than the SNS could work. My daughter was like this and the SNS was a lifesaver for use. We used a DIY SNS systen with feeding tube and by varying the height of the bottle you can control how much effort he has to put in to get milk out. It’s a siphon system so at the beginning of deeds I had the bottle up high so basically got milk with shallow latch and disorganized suck. And lowered it later in the feed when I thought she was mainly comfort nursing. We saw an osteopath who did some bodywork on her and that made a big difference in her ability to suck effectively. Pre SNS we did a lot of syringe feeding but stopped that when we got the SNS to work.

Good luck! I know it is so hard!

OP here. I ordered one but it won’t get here until next week.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

OP here. We will continue to try to breastfeed but feeding him and comfort nursing. We will continue to try to give him a bottle. We will not stop syringe feeding. He is only two weeks old and he needs the calories and nutrition. It’s not like he’s an older baby that will take a bottle eventually. He is too young to pull the “ wait it out” game. This is what the lactation consultant told us.

you need to talk to the ped and get another LC. he’s probably not getting enough calories, and it only gets harder to change habits, not easier. nobody wants you to starve your baby but you can’t keep syringe feeding.

OP here. We will be doing that as I mentioned many times. He is getting enough calories though. He had gained his birth weight and then some back already. We never let him go more than two hours in between feeds. He takes 20-24oz a day which seems to be normal. He is growing out of all his newborn clothes. He went from 8lbs 2oz at birth, 7lbs and 7lbs 12oz. I weighed him yesterday with the baby scale and he is 8lbs 7oz.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

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np it? Please don't refer to a baby as an it.

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Anonymous wrote:Try swaddling the baby while you feed him the bottle. Also try bottle feeding in the side lying position. Lansinoh bottles worked for my baby when others didn’t.

OP here. I ordered more options. We have tried holding at different positions, laying down on side propped on boppy, slipping the nipple in his mouth after he is on the breast, etc. He gets really mad and starts crying.

he’s getting mad because you’re taking away the breast. and you need to get less worried about him getting mad. parenting is all about structure! tough lesson to learn so early, I know. nobody wants to starve your baby but you need to be firm and figure out if there is anything physical going on.

Do this listen to this poster. These are the types of people that will make you starve your baby. The baby is only 2 weeks old. You can’t just starve a 2 week old.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

OP here. We will continue to try to breastfeed but feeding him and comfort nursing. We will continue to try to give him a bottle. We will not stop syringe feeding. He is only two weeks old and he needs the calories and nutrition. It’s not like he’s an older baby that will take a bottle eventually. He is too young to pull the “ wait it out” game. This is what the lactation consultant told us.

you need to talk to the ped and get another LC. he’s probably not getting enough calories, and it only gets harder to change habits, not easier. nobody wants you to starve your baby but you can’t keep syringe feeding.

OP here. We will be doing that as I mentioned many times. He is getting enough calories though. He had gained his birth weight and then some back already. We never let him go more than two hours in between feeds. He takes 20-24oz a day which seems to be normal. He is growing out of all his newborn clothes. He went from 8lbs 2oz at birth, 7lbs and 7lbs 12oz. I weighed him yesterday with the baby scale and he is 8lbs 7oz.

His weight is good and his intake is average. I wouldn’t worry. You can always try 1-2 feedings with formula a day for added calories.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

OP here. We will continue to try to breastfeed but feeding him and comfort nursing. We will continue to try to give him a bottle. We will not stop syringe feeding. He is only two weeks old and he needs the calories and nutrition. It’s not like he’s an older baby that will take a bottle eventually. He is too young to pull the “ wait it out” game. This is what the lactation consultant told us.

OP, breast-feeding is not working and its exhausting to him and you. Forget breastfeeding and focus on formula/bottle feeding. Don't wait it out. We tried that with our child per advice and huge mistake as child would simply not eat. We tried many bottles and formula until we got it right. We had quite the collection. Put out a request on your buy nothing group to get donations of different kinds of bottles to try. And, try different formula's too. Everyone says they are similar but they aren't. Even store to store, the generics are slightly different. The lactation consultant only focus is on breastfeeding. She is doing more harm than good. Get to a pediatric GI and real feeding specialist. There may be a medical issue behind this too.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

OP here. We will continue to try to breastfeed but feeding him and comfort nursing. We will continue to try to give him a bottle. We will not stop syringe feeding. He is only two weeks old and he needs the calories and nutrition. It’s not like he’s an older baby that will take a bottle eventually. He is too young to pull the “ wait it out” game. This is what the lactation consultant told us.

OP, breast-feeding is not working and its exhausting to him and you. Forget breastfeeding and focus on formula/bottle feeding. Don't wait it out. We tried that with our child per advice and huge mistake as child would simply not eat. We tried many bottles and formula until we got it right. We had quite the collection. Put out a request on your buy nothing group to get donations of different kinds of bottles to try. And, try different formula's too. Everyone says they are similar but they aren't. Even store to store, the generics are slightly different. The lactation consultant only focus is on breastfeeding. She is doing more harm than good. Get to a pediatric GI and real feeding specialist. There may be a medical issue behind this too.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

OP here. We will continue to try to breastfeed but feeding him and comfort nursing. We will continue to try to give him a bottle. We will not stop syringe feeding. He is only two weeks old and he needs the calories and nutrition. It’s not like he’s an older baby that will take a bottle eventually. He is too young to pull the “ wait it out” game. This is what the lactation consultant told us.

OP, breast-feeding is not working and its exhausting to him and you. Forget breastfeeding and focus on formula/bottle feeding. Don't wait it out. We tried that with our child per advice and huge mistake as child would simply not eat. We tried many bottles and formula until we got it right. We had quite the collection. Put out a request on your buy nothing group to get donations of different kinds of bottles to try. And, try different formula's too. Everyone says they are similar but they aren't. Even store to store, the generics are slightly different. The lactation consultant only focus is on breastfeeding. She is doing more harm than good. Get to a pediatric GI and real feeding specialist. There may be a medical issue behind this too.

OP here. He responds better to the breast than a bottle. He will get there. Why would I feed him formula? I’ve been pumping 32oz for the past week. He doesn’t care for formula. We are in a formula shortage. How will I get formula for my baby? It’s hard to the different formulas when there is no formula in stock.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wait until he's hungry and have dad give him the bottle. Make it a high-flow nipple and just keep sticking it in his mouth. He'll take it. My DS spit out the pacifier repeatedly at 3 weeks but I was determined to make him take it, so I just held it in there. I don't mean you traumatize the baby, but you just keep on trying.

OP here. I will try to high flow. We have I think a newborn or slow flow nipple. We have 3 different brand bottles and he won’t take any of them. We have tried various milk temps, formula, and him being really hungry. He still refused and screamed. He is not a big fan of the syringe but he is used to it now. We feed every 1-2 hours because that’s when he wants to eat. He will take 1 ounce every hour or 2 ounces every two hours. We let him decide and he does turn his head and spit it out even he doesn’t want it. We don’t just feed him to feed him. We don’t go more than two hours between feedings but he always lets us know when he is hungry and he always wants to eat every 1-2 hours. The odd thing is he hates the nipple shield and won’t take a bottle but he will take a pacifier.

He's lazy and likes the syringe, it's easier for him!

What do you suggest she does? If she stops syringe feeding that means he gets no milk.

He will eventually take the bottle.

That is dangerous advice for a mother of a 2 week old who is not suckling. Not all babies will EVENTUALLY take a bottle

OP here. We will continue to try to breastfeed but feeding him and comfort nursing. We will continue to try to give him a bottle. We will not stop syringe feeding. He is only two weeks old and he needs the calories and nutrition. It’s not like he’s an older baby that will take a bottle eventually. He is too young to pull the “ wait it out” game. This is what the lactation consultant told us.

OP, breast-feeding is not working and its exhausting to him and you. Forget breastfeeding and focus on formula/bottle feeding. Don't wait it out. We tried that with our child per advice and huge mistake as child would simply not eat. We tried many bottles and formula until we got it right. We had quite the collection. Put out a request on your buy nothing group to get donations of different kinds of bottles to try. And, try different formula's too. Everyone says they are similar but they aren't. Even store to store, the generics are slightly different. The lactation consultant only focus is on breastfeeding. She is doing more harm than good. Get to a pediatric GI and real feeding specialist. There may be a medical issue behind this too.

Why are stupid people like this talking about trying formula when we are in a formula shortage? Most brands are sold out.

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Anonymous wrote:Try swaddling the baby while you feed him the bottle. Also try bottle feeding in the side lying position. Lansinoh bottles worked for my baby when others didn’t.

OP here. I ordered more options. We have tried holding at different positions, laying down on side propped on boppy, slipping the nipple in his mouth after he is on the breast, etc. He gets really mad and starts crying.

he’s getting mad because you’re taking away the breast. and you need to get less worried about him getting mad. parenting is all about structure! tough lesson to learn so early, I know. nobody wants to starve your baby but you need to be firm and figure out if there is anything physical going on.

Do this listen to this poster. These are the types of people that will make you starve your baby. The baby is only 2 weeks old. You can’t just starve a 2 week old.

Nobody is saying to starve him, but OP is going to need to teach the baby to take the bottle, which will require stopping the syringe and all the fruitless nursing attempts *temporarily* so the baby gets hungry enough to take the bottle. This is why she needs to talk to the doctor.

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OP I’m sorry that hateful trolls seem to be showing up here.

Please, please talk to your baby’s doctor again and emphasize that he can’t seem to eat by any method other than syringe. I had a baby with a nicu stay for feeding problems and I’m really surprised no one is more concerned that a baby can’t do the latch/suck/swallow thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Try swaddling the baby while you feed him the bottle. Also try bottle feeding in the side lying position. Lansinoh bottles worked for my baby when others didn’t.

OP here. I ordered more options. We have tried holding at different positions, laying down on side propped on boppy, slipping the nipple in his mouth after he is on the breast, etc. He gets really mad and starts crying.

he’s getting mad because you’re taking away the breast. and you need to get less worried about him getting mad. parenting is all about structure! tough lesson to learn so early, I know. nobody wants to starve your baby but you need to be firm and figure out if there is anything physical going on.

Do this listen to this poster. These are the types of people that will make you starve your baby. The baby is only 2 weeks old. You can’t just starve a 2 week old.

Nobody is saying to starve him, but OP is going to need to teach the baby to take the bottle, which will require stopping the syringe and all the fruitless nursing attempts *temporarily* so the baby gets hungry enough to take the bottle. This is why she needs to talk to the doctor.

You did say to starve the baby. Nice try troll. He gone. Not your baby, not your choice. POS.

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I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.

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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.

this is good advice. when my newborn wasn’t getting enough the LC recommended a more structured schedule of 3 hrs. Constant snacking was tiring all of us out and the baby was never hungry enough to empty the breast efficiently and get a full feed.

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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.

it seems like the problem is the baby preferring the syringe over the bottle. that’s why I think trying a high-flow nipple might be good. and also asap figuring out the latch with the best LCs or pediatrician.