Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.

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Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.

She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.

Honestly, this is probably accurate.

I wouldn't blame her.

Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.

Why should she wait six weeks? Teachers don't get paid for the summer. So her leaving now for a better job means a better financial future long-term. OP doesn't like it I'm sure she knows were the sub sign-up forms are. It won't even be that long, just six weeks.

Wow, the disrespect towards teachers just doesn't stop.

DP: Why is this disrespect? Teachers are supposed to give up better financial offers just because you think they should conform to your idea of professionalism? They owe it to their students? The same teachers who routinely get pink slips every spring and often don't know if/where they are going to work the next year until mid-summer? The same teachers who have been putting up with a ton of crap from so many angles the past few years? Putting teachers on a pedestal who will suffer through anything--give up their own and their family's well-being-- for their students is not "respect" it's an unreasonable expectation. To couch it as 'respect' is just extra gaslighting. These and many other unreasonable demands are what is gutting the teacher profession. Sure, I'd prefer a teacher--or any worker-- not quit without notice but I can totally understand why someone would if they are at the breaking point. And only hr and the teacher know the actual situation, not OP. But if we don't course correct on demands on teachers, the issue is not whether you'll have the same teacher for the next month or so, but whether you'll have any at all next year.

Spare us your union BS. Unprofessional behavior is unprofessional behavior in any field.

Live in denial of the growing teacher shortage then.

Devaluing professionalism will surely solve the problem!

[Anonymous]

Look-teaching is hard and there are good teachers and bad teachers, professional and skilled and unprofessional and unskilled. Like any profession! There’s a weird dynamic reminiscent of the gross police unions where any criticism of any teacher is taken as a shocking moral outrage. Suck it up buttercups-if you’re not a bad teacher no one’s talking abt you.

[Anonymous]

Teacher made it to state testing. After state testing, not much teaching is going on. Best time for a teacher to quit.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids are just fulfilling SOL testing at this point anyway, so it’s no like there was going to be any actual learning from here until the end of the year. That probably factored into the teacher’s plans.

Just off the top of my head, between now and the end of the SY, I know we have another math unit, a unit on Mali, a science unit about simple machines, a social studies alternative SOL assessment, a health unit, and we need to finish persuasive writing.

What makes me think about retiring early? I need to administer the DRA Progress Monitoring Tool to every student and enter a passing score into RUBI NLT May 27 (we weren’t allowed to start assessing until after the SOL test). I have to administer the DSA spelling assessment and get an updated level for every student. At the same time I’m assessing individual or small groups of students I’m expected to keep the others on task and manage behavior. We have two more mornings of SOL testing plus another two for iReady. Progress Report grades will probably be due around June 3 or 6. I know some people think that goes quickly, but it does take a long time to figure grades and enter them into SIS, especially during the fourth quarter which has double the grades and no workday during which to work on them. I’m sure I’m leaving out many other tasks. I know I have 3 meetings (2 CTs plus one other) the last week of school during our planning period.

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Anonymous wrote:Look-teaching is hard and there are good teachers and bad teachers, professional and skilled and unprofessional and unskilled. Like any profession! There’s a weird dynamic reminiscent of the gross police unions where any criticism of any teacher is taken as a shocking moral outrage. Suck it up buttercups-if you’re not a bad teacher no one’s talking abt you.

I'm not a teacher, but know the data-- there are an estimated currently .59 possible teachers (not just licensed, this includes provisional and alternately licensed etc.) available for every position (private, public, charter) in the US and the numbers are going down fast. This is SO much lower than it's ever been. As existing teachers have to cover 1.5x as much it's only going to accelerate. Add in the heightened vitriol. So I'm pretty sure it's going to be us parents who are going to have to "suck it up buttercup" as these teachers realize they don't have to put up with unreasonable job conditions. Excellent, highly experienced teachers are quitting ALL OVER and nobody wants to step in.

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Anonymous wrote:No offense, but my job doesn’t do anything for my anniversary at the job. I got a coin and a certificate for my 5 year anniversary. I am coming up on my 10 year anniversary and I bet I get the same thing. There is no bonus, no special gift. My job pays better then a Teachers but that was my choice. I don’t get an annual bonus, that is not a part of my compensation packet, which was also my choice.

People choose jobs with different pay packets. A bonus is a part of that packet. My brothers job has bonuses built into his pay packet. If he doesn’t hit his bonuses, then he should be rethinking his job.

I am not sure why people think Teachers should get a bonus, it is not a part of their pay package. Yes, it is nice, but if it is that important then it should be written into the contract.

Teacher appreciation week at our school is mainly different special meals, because the PTA knows that the Teachers don’t need or want the coffee mugs and water bottles. I know they ask for food allergies and requirements so that all the Teachers get food that they like. Winter Break and end of the year Room gifts include gift cards but none of that is a guarantee. Our parents and PTA do it because there is enough money to do it but that is not a guarantee. Not every school has families with the money to do that.

I get that Teaching is hard and getting harder but most Teachers know what their compensation package looks like. I think Teachers should be paid more but the idea that anniversary’s should be marked with a bonus or something that isn’t included in the contract is far fetched.

I don’t think I should get a bonus or special recognition. I agree, I choose this profession and it wasn’t for the money. I was pointing out how we are treated like elementary students ourselves. I’d rather get nothing than a photocopied certificate like you would give a 7 year old. They want us to act professionally. Treat us as professionals.

I completely understand why my husband’s salary and bonuses are what they are. He makes money for people. I do not.

The “job” I do today is not the same job I did when I entered the profession.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.

She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.

Honestly, this is probably accurate.

I wouldn't blame her.

Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.

When you are in an abusive relationship, sometimes you just have to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.

She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.

Honestly, this is probably accurate.

I wouldn't blame her.

Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.

But you have no idea what kind of “unprofessionalism” and “rudeness” she was asked to tolerate on a daily basis. At some point, people crack. It is better that they save themselves and the kids from an ugly a nervous breakdown in the classroom

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Anonymous wrote:No offense, but my job doesn’t do anything for my anniversary at the job. I got a coin and a certificate for my 5 year anniversary. I am coming up on my 10 year anniversary and I bet I get the same thing. There is no bonus, no special gift. My job pays better then a Teachers but that was my choice. I don’t get an annual bonus, that is not a part of my compensation packet, which was also my choice.

People choose jobs with different pay packets. A bonus is a part of that packet. My brothers job has bonuses built into his pay packet. If he doesn’t hit his bonuses, then he should be rethinking his job.

I am not sure why people think Teachers should get a bonus, it is not a part of their pay package. Yes, it is nice, but if it is that important then it should be written into the contract.

Teacher appreciation week at our school is mainly different special meals, because the PTA knows that the Teachers don’t need or want the coffee mugs and water bottles. I know they ask for food allergies and requirements so that all the Teachers get food that they like. Winter Break and end of the year Room gifts include gift cards but none of that is a guarantee. Our parents and PTA do it because there is enough money to do it but that is not a guarantee. Not every school has families with the money to do that.

I get that Teaching is hard and getting harder but most Teachers know what their compensation package looks like. I think Teachers should be paid more but the idea that anniversary’s should be marked with a bonus or something that isn’t included in the contract is far fetched.

NP. Sure. And I don't disagree.

It's a choice. And now I am asking you if it's okay that teachers make the same choice as you did to get a job with the same actual benefits as you -- by leaving the profession.

It's okay for them to make the same choice as you, right? No hard feeling, just a choice everyone is free to make. Right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look-teaching is hard and there are good teachers and bad teachers, professional and skilled and unprofessional and unskilled. Like any profession! There’s a weird dynamic reminiscent of the gross police unions where any criticism of any teacher is taken as a shocking moral outrage. Suck it up buttercups-if you’re not a bad teacher no one’s talking abt you.

I'm not a teacher, but know the data-- there are an estimated currently .59 possible teachers (not just licensed, this includes provisional and alternately licensed etc.) available for every position (private, public, charter) in the US and the numbers are going down fast. This is SO much lower than it's ever been. As existing teachers have to cover 1.5x as much it's only going to accelerate. Add in the heightened vitriol. So I'm pretty sure it's going to be us parents who are going to have to "suck it up buttercup" as these teachers realize they don't have to put up with unreasonable job conditions. Excellent, highly experienced teachers are quitting ALL OVER and nobody wants to step in.

People were warned and they laughed it off. When you insist teachers are unimportant and expendable, they find other jobs, which typically pay more or at least have better benefits and allow them time to eat lunch and go to the bathroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.

She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.

Honestly, this is probably accurate.

I wouldn't blame her.

Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.

But you have no idea what kind of “unprofessionalism” and “rudeness” she was asked to tolerate on a daily basis. At some point, people crack. It is better that they save themselves and the kids from an ugly a nervous breakdown in the classroom

Oh, you're right. She's a hero for quitting at the beginning of May.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look-teaching is hard and there are good teachers and bad teachers, professional and skilled and unprofessional and unskilled. Like any profession! There’s a weird dynamic reminiscent of the gross police unions where any criticism of any teacher is taken as a shocking moral outrage. Suck it up buttercups-if you’re not a bad teacher no one’s talking abt you.

I'm not a teacher, but know the data-- there are an estimated currently .59 possible teachers (not just licensed, this includes provisional and alternately licensed etc.) available for every position (private, public, charter) in the US and the numbers are going down fast. This is SO much lower than it's ever been. As existing teachers have to cover 1.5x as much it's only going to accelerate. Add in the heightened vitriol. So I'm pretty sure it's going to be us parents who are going to have to "suck it up buttercup" as these teachers realize they don't have to put up with unreasonable job conditions. Excellent, highly experienced teachers are quitting ALL OVER and nobody wants to step in.

I don’t think anyone should stay year after year in a miserable job nor do I think parents need to act like each and every teacher is a hard-working, highly skilled saint.

[Anonymous]

Your teacher does not owe it to anyone to tell you why she left or to time her leaving at the the point most convenient to the school. Maybe she's been looking for a job for awhile and one just came up that was perfect for her. Maybe she is sick, or her parents are. Maybe her partner or kids are. She doesn't have to explain her private health or family issues to anyone. She doesn't have to justify or apologize for leaving a job.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.

She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.

Honestly, this is probably accurate.

I wouldn't blame her.

Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.

But you have no idea what kind of “unprofessionalism” and “rudeness” she was asked to tolerate on a daily basis. At some point, people crack. It is better that they save themselves and the kids from an ugly a nervous breakdown in the classroom

Oh, you're right. She's a hero for quitting at the beginning of May.

DP
That’s not what the PP was saying.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.

She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.

Honestly, this is probably accurate.

I wouldn't blame her.

Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.

Why should she wait six weeks? Teachers don't get paid for the summer. So her leaving now for a better job means a better financial future long-term. OP doesn't like it I'm sure she knows were the sub sign-up forms are. It won't even be that long, just six weeks.

Wow, the disrespect towards teachers just doesn't stop.

DP: Why is this disrespect? Teachers are supposed to give up better financial offers just because you think they should conform to your idea of professionalism? They owe it to their students? The same teachers who routinely get pink slips every spring and often don't know if/where they are going to work the next year until mid-summer? The same teachers who have been putting up with a ton of crap from so many angles the past few years? Putting teachers on a pedestal who will suffer through anything--give up their own and their family's well-being-- for their students is not "respect" it's an unreasonable expectation. To couch it as 'respect' is just extra gaslighting. These and many other unreasonable demands are what is gutting the teacher profession. Sure, I'd prefer a teacher--or any worker-- not quit without notice but I can totally understand why someone would if they are at the breaking point. And only hr and the teacher know the actual situation, not OP. But if we don't course correct on demands on teachers, the issue is not whether you'll have the same teacher for the next month or so, but whether you'll have any at all next year.

Spare us your union BS. Unprofessional behavior is unprofessional behavior in any field.

Live in denial of the growing teacher shortage then.

Other fields have labor shortages right now so spare us all the sanctimony. Teachers are respected when they actually behave liked grown-ups.