Schools with Rigorous Academics and Big Sports Culture

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford
USC
Berkeley
UCLA
Michigan
UT Austin
Notre Dame
Duke

I never meet a Michigan student or alum who didn't care deeply about how all the school's teams were doing not just football (USC/Notre Dame) or basketball(Duke/UNC). I am sure these people exist, but I never meet one. Michigan seems to have the best overall school sprit of higher ranked universities.

I grew up in California and I would say that Berkeley places the least emphasis on sports success on any of the above schools. Once a generation or two, an Aaron Rogers or Jason Kid may show up and make their teams competitive and people will care, but in general I don't think students care that much about the success of their sports teams.

If you get into Stanford, having a successful football or basketball season will just be an added bonus and make the other Californian schools even more jealous than they already are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

It's always 1985 on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:School with best football in USNWR Top 20: Notre Dame

No brainer.

USC also.

USC is not top 25, let alone top 20. Nice try

Settle down. Nephew is a senior at USC Viterbi School of Engineering which is USNWR #15 (vs. ND at #48). Top academics, plus Lincoln Riley as the new football coach means USC also fits the bill. Doesn't mean ND isn't great, just means there are other options, particularly for non-catholics who like warm weather.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

Northwestern football has played in the Big Ten Championship game two of the last four seasons.

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

Northwestern football has played in the Big Ten Championship game two of the last four seasons.

Last year their attendance was under 31K in a stadium that holds over 47K in the sports crazed third largest metro in US. Due to Chicago having many alumni from their Big 10 opponents, I am sure a significant proportion attendance is made up of visiting fans. Does not seem like those Big 10 West Championships has translated into fans in the seats. Over the years, they have not sold out games that were not big time opponents even with winning teams.

http://hailtopurple.com/cde/attendance_annual.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

It's always 1985 on DCUM.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

Because it's in the Big Ten, a Power 5 conference. It's the (athletic) prestige of the conference. It's not as gung-ho rah-rah as Michigan, but that culture still definitely exists for those who seek it out. There's fun in being the underdog. As others in this thread have mentioned, its football team has had some success over the last couple of years, and it does well in several of its other sports. It's an academic school first and foremost, but it's also an athletic school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

Northwestern football has played in the Big Ten Championship game two of the last four seasons.

Last year their attendance was under 31K in a stadium that holds over 47K in the sports crazed third largest metro in US. Due to Chicago having many alumni from their Big 10 opponents, I am sure a significant proportion attendance is made up of visiting fans. Does not seem like those Big 10 West Championships has translated into fans in the seats. Over the years, they have not sold out games that were not big time opponents even with winning teams.

http://hailtopurple.com/cde/attendance_annual.html

The money is big time.

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“ It's an academic school first and foremost, but it's also an athletic school.”

Michigan is also an academic school frpirst and foremost. You can be great in academics and athletics, as well as the arts. Michigan is one of the very few schools who have put it all together.

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

Northwestern football has played in the Big Ten Championship game two of the last four seasons.

Last year their attendance was under 31K in a stadium that holds over 47K in the sports crazed third largest metro in US. Due to Chicago having many alumni from their Big 10 opponents, I am sure a significant proportion attendance is made up of visiting fans. Does not seem like those Big 10 West Championships has translated into fans in the seats. Over the years, they have not sold out games that were not big time opponents even with winning teams.

http://hailtopurple.com/cde/attendance_annual.html

I’ve been to games at NU where there are more fans of the opposing team. Not too surprising considering that Chicago is by far the largest city in the Midwest.

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Anonymous wrote:School with best football in USNWR Top 20: Notre Dame

No brainer.

USC also.

USC is not top 25, let alone top 20. Nice try

Settle down. Nephew is a senior at USC Viterbi School of Engineering which is USNWR #15 (vs. ND at #48). Top academics, plus Lincoln Riley as the new football coach means USC also fits the bill. Doesn't mean ND isn't great, just means there are other options, particularly for non-catholics who like warm weather.

So what? One area where USC is top 20. There are lots of schools that have very strong departments. USC is not an overall top 20 school, hence my rebuttal comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke

Why do people keep putting Northwestern on these lists? Sure, they play in the Big 10 but I think they have made 1 NCAA men's BB tournament ever and their football team has had mediocre success at best over the years. They hold the record for longest losing streak in major college football at 34 games (not counting Columbia's streak of 44 games because IVY is not Div 1A in football).

Northwestern football has played in the Big Ten Championship game two of the last four seasons.

That’s only because the two divisions of the B1G are ridiculously unbalanced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School with best football in USNWR Top 20: Notre Dame

No brainer.

USC also.

USC is not top 25, let alone top 20. Nice try

Settle down. Nephew is a senior at USC Viterbi School of Engineering which is USNWR #15 (vs. ND at #48). Top academics, plus Lincoln Riley as the new football coach means USC also fits the bill. Doesn't mean ND isn't great, just means there are other options, particularly for non-catholics who like warm weather.

Sorry, ND wins on USNWR rankings AND football rankings. Nice try though.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities