Things my 8th grader will not miss once leaving Deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a lovely dinner conversation this evening and this is the short list that was talked about:
1 - Avoiding Nerf Gun Battles in the Hallways
2 - Locked Bathrooms
3 - Going to the Bathroom and watching others give stick and poke tattoos
4 - Fights
5- Classmates pulling fire alarms
6 - Bathrooms without soap
7 - Smell of pot while walking to / from school
8 - Going to class and there not being any adults there
9 - Going to class and there being a bunch of kids there who are not in the class
10 - Having an assembly to talk about school rules and knowing it is a joke and will never be enforced

Fights, locked bathrooms, and unsupervised kids in the classroom are not things that should be tolerated at school. Period. I'm surprised some parents here are condoning these activities as something that's expected, as opposed to demanding that the school to do better. I wonder how many have already invested in Deal being their choice (they bought homes there assuming the public schools were good all the way through) and now will defend it no matter what happens there.

For the person who compared it to their ivy, I should probably remind you these are children we're talking about. Not adults.

Well, many parents demanded that school reopen last year, it doesn’t change anything. Parents have no collective or individual power to effect change.

I'm the ivy PP and am curious what you think parent demands will do. This isn't a situation with conflicting ideas of how to run a school; this is the reality of an urban MS, and has been for decades. Teachers and admin would obviously prefer better as well but you have a building with 1,500 hormonal teens in it and occasionally things like this happen.

Smart parents will vote with their feet and leave.

Exactly and PP above is saying locked bathrooms, the prevalent smell of pot, kids in classrooms with no adults, kids wandering the halls and going to classes where they don’t belong, and not having consequences for behavioral problems with the restorative justice BS is all normal in an urban middle school.

I think not but you can keep your head in the sand PP

It wasn’t normal for Deal even 3 years ago.

I have a feeling you are right because it seemed lots Of people wanted their kids to attend in years past. Did it change with the pandemic? If so how and why do you think? Or some other reason? It’s very curious to me.

I think it’s pandemic x inability to suspend x oodles of teachers out on extended leave= chaos

[Anonymous]

I actually do not think Deal was a good middle school even pre-pandemic. It may be the best DCPS has to offer, and there will always be kids that are smart and savvy enough to succeed, but Deal was mediocre and now it’s almost irreparable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a lovely dinner conversation this evening and this is the short list that was talked about:
1 - Avoiding Nerf Gun Battles in the Hallways
2 - Locked Bathrooms
3 - Going to the Bathroom and watching others give stick and poke tattoos
4 - Fights
5- Classmates pulling fire alarms
6 - Bathrooms without soap
7 - Smell of pot while walking to / from school
8 - Going to class and there not being any adults there
9 - Going to class and there being a bunch of kids there who are not in the class
10 - Having an assembly to talk about school rules and knowing it is a joke and will never be enforced

So, middle school. Great attempt to slam deal tho

I went to a private middle school and encountered none of this

Same

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a lovely dinner conversation this evening and this is the short list that was talked about:
1 - Avoiding Nerf Gun Battles in the Hallways
2 - Locked Bathrooms
3 - Going to the Bathroom and watching others give stick and poke tattoos
4 - Fights
5- Classmates pulling fire alarms
6 - Bathrooms without soap
7 - Smell of pot while walking to / from school
8 - Going to class and there not being any adults there
9 - Going to class and there being a bunch of kids there who are not in the class
10 - Having an assembly to talk about school rules and knowing it is a joke and will never be enforced

Fights, locked bathrooms, and unsupervised kids in the classroom are not things that should be tolerated at school. Period. I'm surprised some parents here are condoning these activities as something that's expected, as opposed to demanding that the school to do better. I wonder how many have already invested in Deal being their choice (they bought homes there assuming the public schools were good all the way through) and now will defend it no matter what happens there.

For the person who compared it to their ivy, I should probably remind you these are children we're talking about. Not adults.

Well, many parents demanded that school reopen last year, it doesn’t change anything. Parents have no collective or individual power to effect change.

I'm the ivy PP and am curious what you think parent demands will do. This isn't a situation with conflicting ideas of how to run a school; this is the reality of an urban MS, and has been for decades. Teachers and admin would obviously prefer better as well but you have a building with 1,500 hormonal teens in it and occasionally things like this happen.

Smart parents will vote with their feet and leave.

Exactly and PP above is saying locked bathrooms, the prevalent smell of pot, kids in classrooms with no adults, kids wandering the halls and going to classes where they don’t belong, and not having consequences for behavioral problems with the restorative justice BS is all normal in an urban middle school.

I think not but you can keep your head in the sand PP

It wasn’t normal for Deal even 3 years ago.

I have a feeling you are right because it seemed lots Of people wanted their kids to attend in years past. Did it change with the pandemic? If so how and why do you think? Or some other reason? It’s very curious to me.

DP here, but yes things changed with the pandemic. DCPS MS kids didn't have in-person instruction for a year and a half. Crimes committed by school aged children in DC tripled. These public school kids, even mine who attended every virtual class, have trauma from schools being closed. I'm floored that school leaders like Principal Neal supported WTU's efforts to keep schools closed. She should have known what the result would be to the kids, but she didn't care. If Robert White (endorsed by WTU and he was adamantly opposed to schools reopening) becomes Mayor then things will get even worse at every school. DC Council Members Robert White, Janeese Lewis George, Elissa Silverman, and Christina Henderson all obstructed schools reopening for the 2020-2021 school year. This harm to children is on them.

So why did they do that? Just kind of weird they would close schools randomly like that.

Politics. WTU didn't want to teachers to return to work despite schools reopening across the country. WTU has a lot of political power in DC. Look what happened to Fenty, he lost the re-election when he went head to head with WTU. Plus WTU endorses Robert White and Janeese Lewis George so they of course do whatever WTU wants, even at the expense of children. So now DC public schools kids have this trauma and learning loss that many kids across the country don't have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a lovely dinner conversation this evening and this is the short list that was talked about:
1 - Avoiding Nerf Gun Battles in the Hallways
2 - Locked Bathrooms
3 - Going to the Bathroom and watching others give stick and poke tattoos
4 - Fights
5- Classmates pulling fire alarms
6 - Bathrooms without soap
7 - Smell of pot while walking to / from school
8 - Going to class and there not being any adults there
9 - Going to class and there being a bunch of kids there who are not in the class
10 - Having an assembly to talk about school rules and knowing it is a joke and will never be enforced

Fights, locked bathrooms, and unsupervised kids in the classroom are not things that should be tolerated at school. Period. I'm surprised some parents here are condoning these activities as something that's expected, as opposed to demanding that the school to do better. I wonder how many have already invested in Deal being their choice (they bought homes there assuming the public schools were good all the way through) and now will defend it no matter what happens there.

For the person who compared it to their ivy, I should probably remind you these are children we're talking about. Not adults.

Well, many parents demanded that school reopen last year, it doesn’t change anything. Parents have no collective or individual power to effect change.

I'm the ivy PP and am curious what you think parent demands will do. This isn't a situation with conflicting ideas of how to run a school; this is the reality of an urban MS, and has been for decades. Teachers and admin would obviously prefer better as well but you have a building with 1,500 hormonal teens in it and occasionally things like this happen.

Smart parents will vote with their feet and leave.

Exactly and PP above is saying locked bathrooms, the prevalent smell of pot, kids in classrooms with no adults, kids wandering the halls and going to classes where they don’t belong, and not having consequences for behavioral problems with the restorative justice BS is all normal in an urban middle school.

I think not but you can keep your head in the sand PP

It wasn’t normal for Deal even 3 years ago.

I have a feeling you are right because it seemed lots Of people wanted their kids to attend in years past. Did it change with the pandemic? If so how and why do you think? Or some other reason? It’s very curious to me.

DP here, but yes things changed with the pandemic. DCPS MS kids didn't have in-person instruction for a year and a half. Crimes committed by school aged children in DC tripled. These public school kids, even mine who attended every virtual class, have trauma from schools being closed. I'm floored that school leaders like Principal Neal supported WTU's efforts to keep schools closed. She should have known what the result would be to the kids, but she didn't care. If Robert White (endorsed by WTU and he was adamantly opposed to schools reopening) becomes Mayor then things will get even worse at every school. DC Council Members Robert White, Janeese Lewis George, Elissa Silverman, and Christina Henderson all obstructed schools reopening for the 2020-2021 school year. This harm to children is on them.

So why did they do that? Just kind of weird they would close schools randomly like that.

Politics. WTU didn't want to teachers to return to work despite schools reopening across the country. WTU has a lot of political power in DC. Look what happened to Fenty, he lost the re-election when he went head to head with WTU. Plus WTU endorses Robert White and Janeese Lewis George so they of course do whatever WTU wants, even at the expense of children. So now DC public schools kids have this trauma and learning loss that many kids across the country don't have.

DP but absolutely hilarious that this PP thinks they were answering a serious question. You've been yelling about the WTU for almost two years now. Move on

[Anonymous]

I read the list and thought to myself- must be a big school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a lovely dinner conversation this evening and this is the short list that was talked about:
1 - Avoiding Nerf Gun Battles in the Hallways
2 - Locked Bathrooms
3 - Going to the Bathroom and watching others give stick and poke tattoos
4 - Fights
5- Classmates pulling fire alarms
6 - Bathrooms without soap
7 - Smell of pot while walking to / from school
8 - Going to class and there not being any adults there
9 - Going to class and there being a bunch of kids there who are not in the class
10 - Having an assembly to talk about school rules and knowing it is a joke and will never be enforced

Fights, locked bathrooms, and unsupervised kids in the classroom are not things that should be tolerated at school. Period. I'm surprised some parents here are condoning these activities as something that's expected, as opposed to demanding that the school to do better. I wonder how many have already invested in Deal being their choice (they bought homes there assuming the public schools were good all the way through) and now will defend it no matter what happens there.

For the person who compared it to their ivy, I should probably remind you these are children we're talking about. Not adults.

Well, many parents demanded that school reopen last year, it doesn’t change anything. Parents have no collective or individual power to effect change.

I'm the ivy PP and am curious what you think parent demands will do. This isn't a situation with conflicting ideas of how to run a school; this is the reality of an urban MS, and has been for decades. Teachers and admin would obviously prefer better as well but you have a building with 1,500 hormonal teens in it and occasionally things like this happen.

Smart parents will vote with their feet and leave.

Exactly and PP above is saying locked bathrooms, the prevalent smell of pot, kids in classrooms with no adults, kids wandering the halls and going to classes where they don’t belong, and not having consequences for behavioral problems with the restorative justice BS is all normal in an urban middle school.

I think not but you can keep your head in the sand PP

It wasn’t normal for Deal even 3 years ago.

I have a feeling you are right because it seemed lots Of people wanted their kids to attend in years past. Did it change with the pandemic? If so how and why do you think? Or some other reason? It’s very curious to me.

DP here, but yes things changed with the pandemic. DCPS MS kids didn't have in-person instruction for a year and a half. Crimes committed by school aged children in DC tripled. These public school kids, even mine who attended every virtual class, have trauma from schools being closed. I'm floored that school leaders like Principal Neal supported WTU's efforts to keep schools closed. She should have known what the result would be to the kids, but she didn't care. If Robert White (endorsed by WTU and he was adamantly opposed to schools reopening) becomes Mayor then things will get even worse at every school. DC Council Members Robert White, Janeese Lewis George, Elissa Silverman, and Christina Henderson all obstructed schools reopening for the 2020-2021 school year. This harm to children is on them.

So why did they do that? Just kind of weird they would close schools randomly like that.

Politics. WTU didn't want to teachers to return to work despite schools reopening across the country. WTU has a lot of political power in DC. Look what happened to Fenty, he lost the re-election when he went head to head with WTU. Plus WTU endorses Robert White and Janeese Lewis George so they of course do whatever WTU wants, even at the expense of children. So now DC public schools kids have this trauma and learning loss that many kids across the country don't have.

DP but absolutely hilarious that this PP thinks they were answering a serious question. You've been yelling about the WTU for almost two years now. Move on

People are asking why Deal has gone downhill since the pandemic. This is why.

[Anonymous]

4 fights at recess today….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

A few weeks ago they could not find one of the kids who was involved with a fight after recess. This is a problem and to not acknowledge that when there is a fight, a child can get seriously injured is concerning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

A few weeks ago they could not find one of the kids who was involved with a fight after recess. This is a problem and to not acknowledge that when there is a fight, a child can get seriously injured is concerning.

If you are seriously concerned, perhaps you can offer to support the adults on recess duty. I am sure that they would gladly take your help and are doing what they can to prevent fights.

Now, if you want to show me evidence that they are illegally supporting a middle school fight club, I'll join your concern

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

What the hell is wrong with you???? I have a boy in middle school and I care very much if someone tries to or is successful at fighting him. Physical safety is paramount. Not everyone's child grew up with physical violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

A few weeks ago they could not find one of the kids who was involved with a fight after recess. This is a problem and to not acknowledge that when there is a fight, a child can get seriously injured is concerning.

If you are seriously concerned, perhaps you can offer to support the adults on recess duty. I am sure that they would gladly take your help and are doing what they can to prevent fights.

Now, if you want to show me evidence that they are illegally supporting a middle school fight club, I'll join your concern

You are seriously dense. If you think middle school fights are a no big deal or that the only solution is parents quitting their jobs so they can supervise recess in middle school, I have no words. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

What the hell is wrong with you???? I have a boy in middle school and I care very much if someone tries to or is successful at fighting him. Physical safety is paramount. Not everyone's child grew up with physical violence.

"Alice Deal for All" #bowser2022

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 fights at recess today….

okay. Did you lose one of them? Who cares about ms kids fighting

A few weeks ago they could not find one of the kids who was involved with a fight after recess. This is a problem and to not acknowledge that when there is a fight, a child can get seriously injured is concerning.

If you are seriously concerned, perhaps you can offer to support the adults on recess duty. I am sure that they would gladly take your help and are doing what they can to prevent fights.

Now, if you want to show me evidence that they are illegally supporting a middle school fight club, I'll join your concern

You are seriously dense. If you think middle school fights are a no big deal or that the only solution is parents quitting their jobs so they can supervise recess in middle school, I have no words. Just wow.

You just had about 30